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Peter
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Username: Peter
Post Number: 259
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 10:52 am: | 
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Look, new moms. We know you want your little angels to be able to see each other and talk to each other and poke each other in the eye and share spit and what have you. So, if you choose to get the double-wide stroller, can you get your new mom head out of your new mom arse and show a little courtesy for the rest of us, especially on our narrow sidewalks, in store aisles and the like. If you choose to take twice the room of the rest of us, then you should wait your turn, get out of the way and pay a little more attention to the needs of us who want to use the sidewalk. If you have a front to back double stroller and just take up one stroller width on the sidewalk, please ignore me.
Thanks. |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 3140
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 11:12 am: |
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shut up. |
composerjohn
Citizen
Username: Composerjohn
Post Number: 971
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 11:20 am: |
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Having a bad day? |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 3141
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 11:31 am: |
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I push a double wide stroller, and I'll roll it on his goddam head if I feel like it. I'll be looking for a guy with a "Hi, I'm Peter and I'm lame" T shirt. I'll knock down anyone I please. |
Mr. Big Poppa
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Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 839
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 11:32 am: |
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Themp.... |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8830
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 11:44 am: |
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I think the problem is less about the strollers than the person driving (babysitter, parent, whatever) who stops in doorways or immediately on entering a store, stops to fuss over the kids or chit chat with someone that they know right at the entrance.
Or, the middle of the sidewalk. Then again, it's not always the strollers. I've encountered many an adult with a group of older kids who do the same.
Although, I have also seen groups of adults do the same thing, sans children and their various accessories.
I don't think that it's too much to ask folks who are taking up large areas of public space via group size or accoutrements to step to the side if they need to stop for some reason.
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Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen
Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 840
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 11:48 am: |
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"accoutrements"....I love that word!!!! |
red
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 6739
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 11:53 am: |
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Peter, I think you are being ridiculous. How about showing a little curtousy? Do you think it is easy for a mom to "drive" one of those things? How about the idiot adult who is walking with no patience and basically steps over the stroller not giving a •••• about the kids in the stroller.
Absolutely there are those moms who aren't paying a bit of attention, stopping in doorways as greene says, but there are also adults who do the same. |
ess
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Username: Ess
Post Number: 2953
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 12:02 pm: |
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Red, you are right, there are two angles to this.
I recall being hugely pregnant and having to navigate around women and their strollers in the middle of some thoroughfare (sidewalk, mall, etc.). Henceforth, I made a conscientious effort, when I had a stroller (single) of my own to keep it out of the way of oncoming pedestrians. Not only did I not want to block traffic, but I didn't want anyone bumping the stroller.
Yes, there are parents who just park the stroller anywhere and expect the rest of the world to work around them. There are other people, sans strollers, who cannot tolerate the wait behind a woman with a stroller opening a door (as if they would help!!!) and who bump, push, or bang a kid-filled stroller just to get where they are going two seconds sooner.
It's all about courtesy, all around. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8833
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 12:05 pm: |
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Actually, the answser is to ban strollers from stores. OK, they can go in kiddie stores. If you enter the war zone, you should expect to encounter fire, after all.
Seriously, merchants should provide stroller parking. |
Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen
Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 841
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 12:21 pm: |
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Greenetree, believe me, EVERYONE in the stores would rather contend with a doublewide stroller than kids running around pulling things off the shelves.
So, for those who hate dealing with stollers on sidewalks and stores....I guess you have a problem with people in wheelchairs, especially those self-propelling ones. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8834
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 12:33 pm: |
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Wheelchairs take up less room.
But, you raise a good point. The kids should be parked, too. |
Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen
Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 842
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 1:03 pm: |
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Not the big automated wheelchairs, they are like 4 wheel scooters.
What about obese people? Should they also be banned? Peter, do you yell at them? |
Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1676
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 1:25 pm: |
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I work at the Short hills mall...and i can tell you that i have no problem with the people that come into the store with wheelchairs or crutches or whatever. There are so many couples or parents with strollers that are just so oblivious to everything around that they cause massive traffic jams. It's so annoying. |
red
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 6741
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 1:29 pm: |
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greenetree I think that is a great idea. I would love to just park my children in front of the store with the stroller and go shopping!! Maybe I'll just leave them in the car altogether! |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 3145
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 1:30 pm: |
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TCBY? The redhaired guy with the chops? |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8840
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 1:45 pm: |
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Red - don't forget to leave the windows cracked when it is hot outside. Maybe leave some water, too?
I'll have to think about the big mechanical wheelchairs and obese people.
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OK - the stores should have smaller wheelchairs that customers can use. They'll park their big contraptions with the strollers. I'm not too worried about obese people; anyone who is that morbidly obese is not likely to be able to do much strolling around stores. |
Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1679
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 1:48 pm: |
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Some of the stroller drivers really aren't so bad. Then you get the ones who clearly see you trying to move furniture across the sales floor, ignore you, ignore you after you give a kind "excuse me, ma'am.", and then force you to put the furniture down and wait for them to finish staring blankly at whatever they are staring at and move their massive damn stroller. |
Soparents
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Username: Soparents
Post Number: 2557
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 1:49 pm: |
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I don't think that parking the kids and stroller up at the entrance is a good solution, it would be too congested.
I think a better solution would be to collapse all the strollers down and pile them up in a room, and staple strips of velco to the kids clothing and attach them to some pre-positioned strips on the ceiling. They will keep cool with the airconditioning units, and won't take up any of the retail floor space.
When the parents/caregiver has finished, a sales associate can climb a ladder, give the kiddies a quick tug separating the velco and off they go.
For liability reasons this should be limit to children below the 50lb mark.... |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3701
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 1:51 pm: |
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Crate & Barrel? |
mjc
Citizen
Username: Mjc
Post Number: 1265
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 1:52 pm: |
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themp, Glock's not at TCBY and not a redhead, but he is really cute.  |
Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1681
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 1:55 pm: |
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Yeah, Crate & Barrel. There's a TCBY in the mall?
What's worse is that now that we are under renovation the store is a fraction of the size it used to be... |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8842
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 2:21 pm: |
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SOP - if the strollers are collapsible, then they have those umbrella-hook shaped handles, right? Why bother with the velcro, etc.? The kid can stay in the stroller and be hung from the ceiling by the stroller handles.
I think that in all fairness, however, the ceilings and hooks should be reinforced to hold more weight. Otherwise, those damned double strollers will still be in the way.
One of my favorite stroller moments at MaSH: A man & woman in Pottery Barn, with ~18 m/o child in stroller. Stroller parked next to display case of wine glasses, while parents had their backs turned, looking at an item in another display case. Child reaching out for glasses and only getting her mother's attention when mama heard the tinkling sound of glasses knocking together..... |
Soparents
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Username: Soparents
Post Number: 2561
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 2:30 pm: |
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 cheers!
You are so right greenetree, if hooks are secured in the ceiling properly they can bear more weight! Perhaps we could take this one stage further and suggest that people who start stupid thread are also hung up there too!
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red
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 6743
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 2:31 pm: |
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My favorite stroller moment at MaSH was with a UPS guy. It was during the holidays and he was going up on of the ramps with his cart full of packages. A woman with a double stroller sees him on the ramp, but still gets on heading towards him. Now they are both stuck, neither could move. She huffed "aren't you going to get out of my way?" The UPS guy looks at her and says "you saw me coming, you were stupid enough to get on. I can wait this out all day. I'm getting paid" and leans against his cart. The woman got out of his way. |
Cynicalgirl
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Username: Cynicalgirl
Post Number: 3038
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 2:40 pm: |
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Why on earth would someone bring one of those thundering big hummers of strollers to the mall? When my kid was little, that's what the cheesey umbrella stroller was for. Get 2 cheesey ones and go with the SO or a friend. Seems like going alone to the mall with 2 little kids is a stressful nightmare waiting to happen, with or without a big stroller. But that's just me...seen too many kid meltdowns there, and kinda can't blame them as it's mostly not their idea of good time. |
Calliope
Citizen
Username: Calliope
Post Number: 836
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 2:41 pm: |
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I don't think that parking the kids and stroller up at the entrance is a good solution, it would be too congested.
SOP,
I have to say you are missing the boat here,(and someone is missing a great entrepeneurial opportunity) this is MaSH we are talking about, right? It is obvious , there should be VALET stroller parking!
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1685
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 2:41 pm: |
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I love the people pushing their strollers down stair-by-stair outside the store because they can't fit them on the escalator (which they shouldnt do either) and they are too stupid or lazy to go to the elevator.
Did I mention that they don't take the kids out of the stroller either? |
Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1787
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 2:53 pm: |
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The only issue I have with parents pushing strollers is when they wait at the corner to cross the street, but push their most precious possession out into the street in their impatience.
I cound never understand the gall of people endangering their kids this way. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8843
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 3:31 pm: |
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C- Freakin' genius!!!! I can't believe that I didn't think of that.
Love the UPS guy story.
I have a similar one.
Years ago, I broke my knee. I wasn't able to commute for awhile and took car service back & forth to the Jersey office, but after several weeks, went into the NY office a couple days a week. I had to put on my hip to ankle brace and use a cane for the train ride. You can imagine how much fun it was doing the NJT-Hoboken-Path thing.
I was very, very slow.
One day, I get off the PATH and am making my way to the elevator.
BTW - Next time you crowd onto an elevator when you are able-bodied and there is a staircase to use, think about the person who can't use the stairs and is waiting forever for the elevator to come because of everyone else too lazy to take the stairs. Anyhoo....
I'm hobbling across the platform when this woman with her kid in stroller races right in front of me, knocking my cane out of my hand. Mind you, there weren't many people left (they'd all gotten up the stairs) so there is no way that she didn't see me. For whatever reason, I beat her to the elevator. I get in and see her racing towards me. I press the "door close" button with my cane. She jams the stroller (filled with child) into the door so that it opens back up. Gets in and says "You saw me and tried to close the door. How dare you?"
I reply "Well, I guess that makes us both rude bitches, doesn't it?" |
Calliope
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Username: Calliope
Post Number: 838
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 3:45 pm: |
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greenetree,
LET'S TOAST ALL OF US RUDE BITCHES!!!!
C
I just looksweet---it is all a carefully executed ruse... |
red
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 6744
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 3:53 pm: |
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That is great greenetree!! |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 3151
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 5:11 pm: |
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"I was very, very slow.
this woman with her kid in stroller races right in front of me, knocking my cane out of my hand..
For whatever reason, I beat her to the elevator."
Sounds like a fib. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8848
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 5:13 pm: |
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Yeah. I do that a lot. Ask anyone who knows me.
Ya know, having children does not make you above reproach, Sweetpea. |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 3152
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 5:30 pm: |
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It can save you from a life of gloating over your pettiest imaginary acts. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8849
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 5:38 pm: |
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Do we have a problem that I am unaware of here, Hon?
Them's big words, calling someone a liar. Don't care how you attempt to pretty it up.
Now, that being said, I am not interested in being one of those folks who gets into it one-on-one on the board. Just wondering if maybe your panties are stuck in your butt and maybe you can pull them out. But, I'm not the one that shoved them in there to begin with. |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 3154
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 5:49 pm: |
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I call my stroller "Christine". It will haunt your dreams. It's like the white buffalo in that Bronson movie (White Buffalo). Pray to God you stay out of my way. Killdozer. Jaws.
Ever seen Maximum Overdrive?
Deathrace 2000?
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Soparents
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Username: Soparents
Post Number: 2566
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 5:52 pm: |
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greenetree needs no-one to come to her defence, but I remember having a torn tendon in my foot and spending ages hobbling painfully along with crutches, and it just took one self centred individual to push their way through the crowd of people walking along the street and almost sent me flying. Without giving my foot a second thought I caught up with them and gave them a piece of my mind. It wasn't until I came down from orbit that I realised I had a major ouchy on my hands....
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 15212
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 5:57 pm: |
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Once again, it's not the choice of vehicle, it's the behavior. Same with SUV's, as always. Peter isn't saying all double-wide parents act this way. Just that if they have a double-wide, they have to be more careful than usual. Some are, and some aren't.
Peter, I thought you moved?
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Calliope
Citizen
Username: Calliope
Post Number: 843
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 5:57 pm: |
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The full moon isn't until Wednesday.
C.
..and no, that is not a non-sequitor |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 3155
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 6:11 pm: |
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OK - I shot that response off the cuff. Didn't mean to imply anyone needs to have kids by any means. Far from it. Sorry if that sounded mean. I was "taking the piss" as the British say, but it was a little clumsy of me.
Frankly, there is a certain type of posting that needs to be pushed back a little. If you gloat about little social outrages you've comitted, you should be prepared for some flack. Catty begets catty. A thread like this, which has no redeeming value at all is just a platform for busting chops.
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Soparents
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Username: Soparents
Post Number: 2567
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 6:36 pm: |
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Themp,
The Brits excel at piss taking and sarcasm.....!
And you're right, this thread has no redeeming qualities at all except for allowing us all to take the piss out of it! |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8850
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 7:04 pm: |
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Huh? I can't really follow that last post, Themp, but if you are attempting to call me "catty" and/or think that your rambling is "catty", you may want to check the dictionary.
Your post is more "malicious" and "slanderous" than "catty". And there's nothing "catty" about me. When I'm being a bitch, you'll know it. |
combustion
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Username: Spontaneous
Post Number: 352
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 5, 2006 - 12:53 am: |
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My grandfather used to tell me that years ago, no one brought strollers or carriages into stores. They left them out front. He loved kids, but couldn't stand how mother's would walk around oblivious, knocking stuff over and bumping into people with the strollers. |
mlj
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Username: Mlj
Post Number: 364
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, August 5, 2006 - 9:54 am: |
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Switching generations, my late mom, at age 81 and walking with a cane in a public place, was hit from behind by a wheelchair and knocked to the ground due to the oblivious daughter at the helm of the wheelchair pushing her mom. The staff at the place swarmed around my mom to see if she was ok, and the daughter who knocked her down simply informed my mom that 'she didn't get out of the way', to which my mom replied that she doesn't have eyes in the back of her head. Luckily, my frail mom did not break bones in this incident, but was very shook up and felt more insecure and reluctant to go out. Lucky for the 'driver' I was not present at this incident.
I love people. I am a people lover. |
Scully
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Username: Scully
Post Number: 887
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 9:24 pm: |
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themp - Greenetree, while incapacitated, had her cane knocked out of her hand. How is it 'catty' to not blow kisses afterwards to the jerk who did it? |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 3159
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 11:09 pm: |
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I rolled through town all morning. What's up? No one willing to step out in front of my double-wide? I hit one yellow lab and that was it. Kids loved it.
Maybe you were all busy with these:
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Scully
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Username: Scully
Post Number: 889
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 11:26 pm: |
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Are you for real? You're boasting about hurting a dog? I don't get it. |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 3160
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 11:51 pm: |
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He wasn't hurt too bad. Just change his name to Tripod.
The dog owner got up in my grill, so a gave him one of those face-cup pushes and he fell backwards into the duck pond with his feet in the air. It was like out of the The Wild One, you know, when Lee Marvin shows up?
This town is full of squares. The point of a double wide is to go out ther and make something happen, man, just POW! and nothing is the same. If you can't handle it, get out of my way, Daddio.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1696
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 7, 2006 - 12:02 am: |
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Oh man. Are you trying to be "hood" or just being ridiculous? |
galileo
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Username: Galileo
Post Number: 232
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 7, 2006 - 12:25 am: |
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Themp - You are funny! I had to laugh out loud. How can people reading this take you seriously? By the way folks, he's a very nice person. |
Scully
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Username: Scully
Post Number: 890
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 7, 2006 - 12:44 am: |
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Thanks for telling me. Look up 'gullible' in the dictionary. That's my picture... |
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