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Strawberry
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Post Number: 7756
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Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 2:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"see what I mean....... idiot. Iraq is going so well, in the New York Post.

Seriously, what did our actions in Iraq do, including removal of Saddam, that hasn't turned out to be a complete unbridled disaster?

Ignorance? You can't make a case for anything Strawberry, you just cut (and paste) and run, at best."


this post came moments after she said she wished Saddam were still in power.

the opinion is bonkers but the personal attack is against the rules of conduct on MOL..
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 2:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

straw-

don't hold you breath, dave only bans people that hold different opinions then him...

-slk
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Joe
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Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 2:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Nohero
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Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 2:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Quote:

straw-

don't hold you breath, dave only bans people that hold different opinions then him...

-slk


That would mean that previous ban-ees S.L.K. and Tulip are soul mates.
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Phenixrising
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Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 3:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

baby
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Strawberry
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Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 3:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave bans all types..Heck, he even banned Jamie from creating a no smoking thread.
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Hoops
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Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 3:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Oldstone
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Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 6:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is hilarious. MOL, you make me laugh.
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Rastro
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Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And here I thought the crybaby was on the official seal of the Democratic party, not a certain poster with seeds on his skin.
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Flying_char
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 5:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

banned from MOL? Why do people get banned?
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 9:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i am aware that dave bans "all types," i am just giving him some grief because my last banishment, wh i felt was unjust. i'll get over it but it may cost Jaimie a vote in November...

But seriously Dave, you can someone an "idiot" but not a "pa*sy" or pr*ck"? i realize the latter two may be considered harsher, but they all can be considered a personal attack...

-SLK

I think tulip gets banned because even those posters that agree with her dont like her very much...
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Dave
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's wait to hear what AE35unit has to say next Friday. Which reminds me, I have to let Southerner out.

cc
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algebra2
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's hope AE35unit takes this time out to reflect and comes back to MOL a smarter, more dignified poster.
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Strawberry
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Indeed
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Twokitties
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 1:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the assertion is true isn't it an observation rather than an attack?
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Strawberry
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 1:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like someone wants to join AE35UNIT.

Dave, in the case of Twokitties, I say let's give her a pass this time. Here's why. For the most part, Twokitties confuses opinion with fact. In this I mean, she believes her opinion is textbook material when in fact this is hardly the case. Let's educate our confused poster, why don't we.

FACTS: "The sky is blue", "Bill Clinton is tall". "Barbara Bush is a Republican", "Straw is worth millions", etc. These are facts.

OPINIONS: "The market is going to crash", "Bill Clinton was a great President", "The war in Iraq is wrong" These are opinions that can be argued from both sides from now until eternity.

I've always wondered why some people can't separate fact from preferences, like the twokitties of the world. That said, I don't believe a time out is needed in this case because it's hard to punish those who simply don't know the difference.

So in closing Dave, I'll keep an eye on her and if we see this type of behaivor again, I'll alert you. Our goal here on MOL is a forum that allows all posters to voice all types of opinions in a professional, respectful manner.

The Great Straw is a proud American. (fact)

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sbenois
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 2:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

God Bless You.


By the way, I expect to be in the top three posters in your year-end list this year.
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tom
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 2:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

allows

all posters

to voice

all types of

opinions

in a

professional,

respectful

manner.
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Strawberry
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 5:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Mr. Big Poppa
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 8:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just to be clear on the rules: it's not ok to make a direct insult, but it's ok to make an indirect one?

For example, you cannot say "Big Poppa is an idiot" BUT can you say "Big Poppa, if you think that, then you MUST be an idiot" OR would a more indirect method be better "Big Poppa, anyone thinks that is an idiot"?

Thanks in advacnce for helping define these often vague rules, Dave.
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Wendy
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 9:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good questions Mr. Big Poppa. I also am curious. I always play it safe and say something like "What Mr. Big Poppa wrote just now is the most idiotic thing I read on this thread" but I wouldn't mind getting enlightened since there are some people I would love to insult back who have gotten away with personal attacks or at least avoided the radar detection.
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Dave
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 9:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just a moment, just a moment.

I've just picked up a fault in the AE-35 Unit. It's going to go 100 percent failure within 72 hours.
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Strawberry
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's how it works..

It's ok to say you believe another opinion is moronic or stupid.

"I think all Republicans are crooks."

response: holy stupidity. This is not a personal attack this is a denouncement on that belief.

"I think George Bush is a Nazi."

response: holy ignorance. Again, comparing an American President to a Nazi is foolish.

Now, if one were to call another poster "a moron" or "a Nazi", this would be a personal attack.

"I think Joe "MOL poster" Blow is stupid."

response: a ban from MOL.


hope all this helps.
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Dave
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well done


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Mr. Big Poppa
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Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How about this?

Referring to a previous poster with a "silly Lib". Then following it up with "Libs are morons"? Transitive property applies here, doesn't it Dave?

In fact, in ae35Unit's post, he did not state Strawberry was an idiot....he could have been referring to anyone, right? Very similar to Straw's posts about Libs, since he sometimes immediately follows another poster's comments with "Libs are Morons", etc.

Look, Dave, I might be the only MOLer who thinks Straw is funny, but I think the rules should be applied equally. And Straw, stop trying to get other MOLers banned because if you think ae35unit should have been banned, then you should be banned as well.
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Strawberry
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Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't say silly "lib", I say silly "libs". If I were to say silly "lib" that would be attacking the individual. By going with "Libs", I attack the movement, just like "neocons", etc.

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Wendy
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Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 1:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah but Mr. Berry, you called me a moderate when I said I was a liberal. That, my good man, was indeed a personal attack!
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Alleygater
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Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 1:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder though, can I state that absolutely 100%, unequivocably that I don't think that Strawberries are idiots? (Just to be safe though, I said plural Strawberry, because you know, that would certainly make it alright since I'm not singling out any one Strawberry).
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Oldstone
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Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 7:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that strawberry wastes this much time and energy trying to get people banned from MOL says all i need to know about childish adult behaviour.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This thread is another tribute to the yeoman work that Dave and Jamie do to keep this board going. I for one wouldn't be able to stand this. Anybody who's ever had kids and had to deal with the whining and tattling knows what I'm talking about. I've got to hand it to Dave for graciously dealing with crybaby behavior from "adults."
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John Caffrey
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Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLK, I just found out you can't use the word, , either. I have been trying for the last half hour and it won't post. What happened to the First Amendment?
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SO Ref
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Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can use the word all the you want...
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tulip
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Posted on Sunday, September 3, 2006 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can tell someone to get some sleep, but you can't tell someone to take a nap, or go to a party.
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The Oracle of MOL
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Posted on Sunday, September 3, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soda is still suspended.

Go in peace.

--The Oracle o MOL
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Sunday, September 3, 2006 - 8:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The rule appears to be that you can insult the group that a person appears to belong to and imply an insult, as long as you don't state it. "Libs are morons" is an example of this sort of implied insult. I don't feel this sort of insult is any less of an insult than the "you are a moron" type but this seems to be acceptable under Dave's rule.

I suppose groups that are fair game, such as "libs" (whatever they are), are good ways to insult people. However, I think it would not be good to insult me by saying "Jews are morons". Perhaps you could say "people of average height are morons" because people of average height -- of which I am one -- are not known to be a target of insults in general.
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Hoops
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Posted on Sunday, September 3, 2006 - 9:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lets have a big round of applause for people of average height!
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Sunday, September 3, 2006 - 9:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Basketball lovers are morons.
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Hoops
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Posted on Sunday, September 3, 2006 - 9:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

no doubt,no doubt at all.
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Strawberry
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Posted on Sunday, September 3, 2006 - 9:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

People who don't post on MOL are morons.
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llama
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Posted on Monday, September 4, 2006 - 9:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Strawberry's got diaper rash again!
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Mr. Big Poppa
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Posted on Wednesday, September 6, 2006 - 9:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

llama, you should have written "Strawberries have diaper rash again"

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