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joeltfk
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Post Number: 374
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Posted on Saturday, September 2, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So I'm cleaning my house and come across 100 or so cassette tapes. And not crappy Time Life 70's collections either (well, not all of them), but plenty of Kate Bush, Barry Manilow, Bjork. Great condition.

What do I do with them? These days, with iPods, even CDs seem obsolete. Why buy a CD when I can just download it to my iPod and play it on my computer or plug it into a iPod boombox with no shelf space necessary for jewel cases?

Send any ideas or comments along. This may become the focus of a News-Record GRAIN OF SALT column in the very near future, so let me know if you'd rather I not publish your comments in the column. If I decide to use something, I'll private line you first to let you know and ask for some real-world name attribution.

Thanks,

Joel
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Ceidefields
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Posted on Saturday, September 2, 2006 - 1:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

TEAK sells a device recently reviewed in the times by David Pogue about a device you can use to hook a tape player up to and output in MP3 format. Or you can get other devices like the Dazzle DV Hollywood which allows you to connect devices with RCA plugs (the red and white plugs you use for a tape, vcr, dvd player) to a firewire or (usb, I don't recall) port on a machine, and then you can use different software to record them on your machine. Good way to get old home video tapes into imovie or microsoft movie maker.

Personally I'd go with the second option if you are at all technological inclined (i.e. can manage to post here with a picture) since it is good for many different media. The TEAK device, as I recall, has some draw backs according to Pogue (whose articles I always take with a grain of salt)
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tom
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Posted on Saturday, September 2, 2006 - 1:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have one of these, which worked quite well for me.
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Hank Zona
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Posted on Saturday, September 2, 2006 - 1:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im still trying to figure out how to get my 8-track collection converted over to casette.
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Saturday, September 2, 2006 - 2:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

write down the songs you enjoy from each tape, throw the tapes in the trash and steal the songs online...
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Dave
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Posted on Saturday, September 2, 2006 - 3:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it's legal to download mp3s of titles you own in another format.

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Glock 17
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Posted on Saturday, September 2, 2006 - 3:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you've purchased the album. You can download any of the songs off it you want, legally.
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Dave
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Posted on Saturday, September 2, 2006 - 3:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of salt, the next page I browsed to online after reading this topic had this on it:


Quote:


"Design" by Billy Collins (1995)

I pour a coating of salt on the table
and make a circle in it with my finger.
This is the cycle of life
I say to no one.
This is the wheel of fortune,
the Arctic Circle.
This is the ring of Kerry
and the white rose of Tralee
I say to the ghosts of my family,
the dead fathers,
the aunt who drowned,
my unborn brothers and sisters,
my unborn children.
This is the sun with its glittering spokes
and the bitter moon.
This is the absolute circle of geometry
I say to the crack in the wall,
to the birds who cross the window.
This is the wheel I just invented
to roll through the rest of my life
I say
touching my finger to my tongue.


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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Saturday, September 2, 2006 - 3:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have plenty of cassette tapes I've made from CD's and Albums I have because I have a lot of albums with only one or two songs I like. With no tape player in my car I'm at a loss how to transfer these songs to CD's. I can't see paying $1 a song to buy them from Itunes.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Sunday, September 3, 2006 - 8:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tom, it isn't clear to me what the Griffin gadget does for you. It has audio input and output. Does it also have USB output? It doesn't say.

Please use \newurl rather than \link because I keep killing the window and then finding my MOL page is gone.
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Alleygater
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Posted on Sunday, September 3, 2006 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm actually NOT of the belief that you can steal a song through filesharing just because you own it in another format. You bought a tape, not a cd. You can legally digitize your tape recording and use it anyway you want. But just because you bought a tape (or a cd for that matter) doesn't mean that you can have someone elses cleaner already digitized track from another source that you don't own. I've done my fair share of reading on the matter over the years and I don't think you guys are legally right on this matter. Keep in mind that I don't really care if you steal it or not, just thought I'd throw that out there. Also keep in mind that they won't ask you if you own this stuff on any other format before they come after you either. If they come after you, they will claim that they have evidence that you downloaded a specific list of tracks and take you to court. Once you've lost a few days of work and paid a lawyer, you are welcome to contest the case. Who knows, maybe you'll be right and even win.
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scrim
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Posted on Monday, September 4, 2006 - 2:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the tapes are prerecorded, their sound quality will be somewhere between very poor and abysmal. If they were recorded by a consumer you’ll just have to listen to them to hear the quality of the recording. Mp3 off the net would be far superior to a prerecorded cassette and in my opinion mp3 (even at the higher bit-rates) is awful. Don’t forget, if you had in your possession a recorder magically capable of making PERFECT copies, you’d just wind up with perfect copies of what you’ve already got—not improved versions, just exact copies.
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cppkqp
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Posted on Monday, September 4, 2006 - 3:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My husband and I found our old cassettes a few years ago when we were packing to move. We debated what to do with them and for a few minutes we thought about keeping them. We reminisced about our 80's youth and laughed about the memories that came flooding back. We then popped one into our old boom-box (yes, we still had that too!). The sound quality made it clear why we hadn't listened to them in a long time. We enjoyed them for the afternoon, but then agreed that they clearly belonged in only one place - the garbage.

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Dave
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Posted on Monday, September 4, 2006 - 5:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As copyright doesn't define medium, if you own an LP or 8-track, you own the rights to the songs on it regardless of format. Same with software. You don't re-buy it when you change computer.
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Rastro
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Posted on Friday, September 8, 2006 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave,

But if you go from Mac to PC, you do have to buy it again. If you go from installing via floppy discs, to installing via DVD, you do as well. Heck, if you buy a song on iTunes and lose it, after a certain mount of time you have to pay for it again to download it. And there ere is no real incremental cost to downloading a song.

This was a big issue when CDs first came out. Should people be able to simply pay the price for the CD media, and take the CD from Best Buy if they already own the album?

I am almost certain that most music is tied to the medium it is purchased under. But I am not a copyright or music industry lawyer. I'll ask my friend who is both.

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