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ML1
Citizen
Username: Ml1
Post Number: 1447
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 2, 2004 - 5:39 pm: |     |
(sigh)
of course this thread had to become a tired rehash of the reval. and another gripe-fest about taxes.
But here's my bottom line. In the 8+ years I've lived in Maplewood, things have improved in so many ways. Vic & Jerry's tenures roughly coincided with that time frame. Were they solely responsible for the good things that have gone on? No, but they were certainly two of the people whose efforts led to those good things, so here's another thanks to both of them. |
Diversity Man
Citizen
Username: Deadwhitemale
Post Number: 568
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 2, 2004 - 5:52 pm: | |
state takes over school taxes, by raising state sales tax and income tax.
done is Michigan, really.
DWM |
melidere
Citizen
Username: Melidere
Post Number: 615
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 2, 2004 - 6:27 pm: | |
Thanks, Cathy.
I'm always here. It's just rare that one can actually add anything new.
In a town that's chock full of talented and energetic volunteers, Jerry and Vic have been (and with any luck, will continue to be) two of our finest.
The work is not nearly done. Tough decisions still have to be made. For all our sakes, we have to hope that the new guys (and gal) get the support they need to do what is right for the town.
I'm hopeful.
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mtierney
Citizen
Username: Mtierney
Post Number: 460
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 2, 2004 - 6:48 pm: | |
As stated ad nauseum by me, no one will ever convince me it was fair for my taxes in the middle of Maplewood to go from 12K to almost 20K.
The town is flooded with many who were not here during the reval, so it is hard for them to comprehend the lasting anger of many who made that journey.
Also the many many adjustments which were made to quell those neighborhood groups with the loudest voices shifted the burden unfairly.
It presently (obviously this figure is set to go up) costs me almost $1,700 a month to live here!
Since it was mentioned at yesterday's TC meeting that 60 percent of our budget goes to the schools, that is certainly a place to start looking where we can save. Every year this portion of our tax dollar goes up and the apparent quality of instruction goes down. Go figure.
As a little bit of a thread drift, may I ask where Vic was yesterday? There was no mention of his being sick or out of the country. His absence was very pointed. Jerry had the sense to make an appearance and gave some nice remarks.
It was noted that the $1M bond issue for the police station was voted down on 12/31. I recall the finance officer I think saying a couple of meetings ago that it was important financially for this bond issue to be passed this year, What happened?
Continuing the drift, when did a military police presence replace the scouts for the flag ceremony? We are a nation at war, but I found their performance at the beginning and end of the meeting chilling. The 8 or 10 police officers standing along the wall throughout the meeting were sending a message to the new TC. How can we afford to build an $8M police station? |
anon
Citizen
Username: Anon
Post Number: 894
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 2, 2004 - 8:00 pm: | |
I guess I should have made it clear that I was not limiting my suggestion that we stop talking about the Reval and move on just to me and Straw. I've had my say about it, over and over, and I am now willing to stop.
Copihue: The Joint Meeting is the Sewer Authority for a number of Towns in Essex and Union Counties. The rep from each Town actually gets a salary for being on the Joint Meeting, so it is a "plum". Mayor Grasmere was the Chairman of the Joint Meeting for many years and became an expert on the disposal of sewerage. |
melidere
Citizen
Username: Melidere
Post Number: 616
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 2, 2004 - 9:30 pm: | |
i hear you loud and clear anon. Let me add that i didn't mean for the breath-holding invitation to be exclusive either. Anyone is free to join.
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Copihue
Citizen
Username: Cop
Post Number: 196
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 2, 2004 - 10:12 pm: | |
Do you think that they are buttering him up so that he will be more agreeable during the TC meetings, anon? Vic is clear: he will be running again. Do you think that David will support him if he does?
Pack your own chute. |
anon
Citizen
Username: Anon
Post Number: 895
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 2, 2004 - 11:53 pm: | |
"Buttering him up"? I'd like to think that they are just trying to unify for the benefit of the Town. |
United Strawberry of America
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1695
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 10:44 am: | |
JERRY: IF YOU PLAN TO RUN AGAIN YOU have to drop some of this deadweight including lseltzer,wharfrat, curmugeon etc etc from your list of worshippers. These people won't help you rebuild your reputation because the majority of residents can't stand people like them.
"and I'm p*ssed that I'm on the list, just so some p*ssant can say that he gave me a lower score than the last time (whenever that was)"
The above post was the last of many unpunished personal attacks committed by Nohero.
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Yogi
Citizen
Username: Yogi
Post Number: 36
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 10:49 am: | |
"Read my lips. I will not raise your taxes."
-George Bush I |
Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 2632
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 11:01 am: | |
I've learned that the best way to improve one's reputation, is to have Strawberry say something nasty about you.
Sorry for the thread drift, carry on ... |
United Strawberry of America
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1698
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 11:05 am: | |
JERRY: IF YOU PLAN TO RUN AGAIN YOU have to drop some of this deadweight including lseltzer,wharfrat, curmugeon, and NOHERO etc etc from your list of worshippers. These people won't help you rebuild your reputation because the majority of residents can't stand people like them.
"and I'm p*ssed that I'm on the list, just so some p*ssant can say that he gave me a lower score than the last time (whenever that was)"
The above post was the last of many unpunished personal attacks committed by Nohero.
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wharfrat
Citizen
Username: Wharfrat
Post Number: 905
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 12:01 pm: | |
A lot of cheap talk from someone who doesn't vote.  |
anon
Citizen
Username: Anon
Post Number: 896
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 12:37 pm: | |
I'd love to see a campaign piece that says "I am supported by (or opposed by)Wharfrat, Nohero, Lseltzer and Curmugeon".
Ninety percent of the voters would conclude that the candidate was nuts! |
Dave Ross
Citizen
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6037
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 12:40 pm: | |
Only 90 percent? |
United Strawberry of America
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1700
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 3:02 pm: | |
Wharfrat,
I'll have to remind you that the voting record of private citizens is none of your business. Failure to understand the nature of your offense could result in a record of your salary as a Livingston, N.J. teacher made public.
thank you
"and I'm p*ssed that I'm on the list, just so some p*ssant can say that he gave me a lower score than the last time (whenever that was)"
The above post was the last of many unpunished personal attacks committed by Nohero.
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aquaman
Citizen
Username: Aquaman
Post Number: 165
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 3:09 pm: | |
Marie's campaign literature sported an Sbenois quote, and no one thought she was nuts.
>>Aqua, you're nuttier than a squirrel's breakfast
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Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 556
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 3:10 pm: | |
You are such an asshat. There are a lot of other message boards that would find you funny, can't you post on one of those?
I guess not because they're too smart for you.
Call it a personal attack I could care less. Anyone who posts at 11:58 on New Years Eve needs a life anyway. |
sbenois
Citizen
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 10561
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 3:34 pm: | |
Whoa! I thought she was nuts.
---> Brought to you by Sbenois Engineering LLC <-
Hey, it also wouldn’t look good coming out of a motel with your wife’s best friend saying you were just planning a surprise birthday party for her husband...- Arturo November '03
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anon
Citizen
Username: Anon
Post Number: 899
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 3:39 pm: | |
Dave: I figured the other 10% are MOL afficionados. |
anon
Citizen
Username: Anon
Post Number: 900
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 3:41 pm: | |
Whether a person is registered to vote or not or whether he or she has voted in a specific election is a matter of public record as is any public school teacher's salary. |
wharfrat
Citizen
Username: Wharfrat
Post Number: 907
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 3:47 pm: | |
BTW-You don't have two jeeps, either.
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berry festival
Citizen
Username: Berry_festival
Post Number: 26
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 4:20 pm: | |
hey dave,
is blackmail a punishable offense on mol? |
Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 2637
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 5:27 pm: | |
Whoa, this thread has taken an interesting turn!
Straw, an individual's voter registration is a matter of public record. We're all in the books down at the Essex County Registrar (well, maybe practically all of us). Anybody can walk in and find out an individual's declared party, and which primary and general election that person voted in.
Folks may recall the discussion here about one of the candidates in the 2002 primary, and whether she had registered as a Democrat. Someone actually provided a copy of her registration form here on MOL. That was a public document, as is whether Straw or anybody else is registered to vote. |
anon
Citizen
Username: Anon
Post Number: 901
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 5:52 pm: | |
Does every thread have to turn into a discussion of Straw?
Perhaps from now on when a thread takes that turn, Dave should shut it down. Better still, the rest of us should just restrain ourselves from playing into that nonsense. |
Dave Ross
Citizen
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6040
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 6:05 pm: | |
I count one personal attack against Strawberry. 5 days in the penalty box...
As for blackmail, I'm not sure where it's happening here. Crimes against usernames hasn't been addressed by any court I know. |
Greatest Straw of all time!
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1702
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 6:33 pm: | |
Dave,
I really don't want to see anyone suspended. I just hope that in the future some of my fellow posters will use better judgement when making comments about others.
BUSH/CHENEY IN 2004.. |
algebra2
Citizen
Username: Algebra2
Post Number: 1524
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 6:40 pm: | |
Wharfie -- BTW, he does have two Jeeps (and a '63 Buick Riviera).
Brett -- who's the Asshat now? |
Greatest Straw of all time!
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1703
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 6:45 pm: | |
and for those interested, the Buick is available for $3,000. Mint condition, low milage. It was my Father's back in the day when he was in and out of the joint so he never used it that much.
BUSH/CHENEY IN 2004.. |
shh
Citizen
Username: Shh
Post Number: 839
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 3, 2004 - 7:10 pm: | |
Hey, those rumors are true!
The fact that Straw put Alg in his top 25 for digging the big Straw was pretty much a dead giveaway, but now it's totally confirmed.
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