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Just The Aunt
Supporter Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 3370 Registered: 1-2004

| Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 12:27 pm: |    |
84% of the almost 20,000 people aksed voted "Yes." What do you think? Mexico Criticizes U.S. Immigration Bill for Security Focus Measure Would OK Partial Fence on Border, Impact Worker Permits By IOAN GRILLO, AP MEXICO CITY (Dec. 17) - The Mexican government slammed the U.S. Congress for approving an immigration bill that would tighten border controls and make it harder for undocumented immigrants to get jobs. The House of Representatives voted 239-182 in favor of measures that would enlist military and local law enforcement to help stop illegal entrants and require employers to verify the legal status of their workers. The House also authorized the building of a fence along parts of the U.S.-Mexico border, but did not include any new temporary work program for migrants, something Mexico insists is needed. "The government of Mexico ... believes that a reform which only considers security measures will not contribute to a better, more integral bilateral management of migration issues," the Foreign Relations department said in a statement. "The U.S. executive branch publicly expressed its commitment to an integral immigration reform, with a new program for temporary workers," the statement continued. "The Mexican government will redouble its efforts to achieve this shared goal." President Bush urged Congress almost two years ago to enact a guest worker program that would allow illegal immigrants to stay in the country temporarily to fill jobs unwanted by Americans. House leaders wouldn't allow a vote on a volatile proposal to deny citizenship to babies born in the United States to illegal immigrants. But the House did approve building 700 miles of fence along the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border, giving priority for construction in Laredo, Texas. The city is across the border from Nuevo Laredo, Mexico, where warring drug cartels have been blamed for more than 140 killings this year. Mexico argues existing barriers built along heavily crossed sections of the border have not stopped migrants from crossing, rather have pushed them through more desolate, dangerous areas. A record number of more than 415 people died crossing the border illegally in 2005, according to statistics from the U.S. Border Patrol for the fiscal year ending Sept. 30. That compares to the previous record of 383 deaths in 2000. Mexico's National Human Rights Commission described the U.S. measure as "part of a tendency to criminalize migration with a wall that calls to mind the Berlin Wall." As well as building a wall, the bill would require the Defense and Homeland Security departments to design a plan to use military technology to stop illegal crossings and require all employers in the country, more than 7 million, to check the legal status of workers. U.S. authorities estimate there are about 11 million undocumented migrants in the United States, about half of whom are Mexican. Associated Press Writer Olga Rodriguez contributed to this story from Monterrey.
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Ignatius Flambeau
Supporter Username: Flamecoach
Post Number: 37 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 1:08 pm: |    |
Ah, whatever. It's a moot point. Bush talks tough about immigration, but he does it while winking at the small business owners who claim they need undocumented workers to build houses, process meat, mow lawns, etc.
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Shawna
Citizen Username: Lucies_mom
Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 2:07 pm: |    |
since when has a fence ever really worked? a fence isn't much of a deterrant and is costly. No fence. |
   
Nob
Citizen Username: Nob
Post Number: 79 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 4:07 pm: |    |
Could it also be part of the New Orleans levee system -- that ought to be big enough to hold out a Level 5 or 6 storm? Probably won't stop illegal immigration though...  |
   
Shawna
Citizen Username: Lucies_mom
Post Number: 51 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 8:04 pm: |    |
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GlassJoe
Citizen Username: Glass_joe
Post Number: 70 Registered: 6-2005

| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 12:48 am: |    |
JTA is an alarmist N.I.M.B.Y.!!! |
   
Alberto
Citizen Username: Buckwheat
Post Number: 44 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 7:55 am: |    |
wHY SPEND OUR FEDERAL TAX DOLLARS ON A FENCE WHEN WE CAN BAIL THEM OUT EVERY TIME THEY DEVALUE THE PESO?
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Maplewoody
Citizen Username: Maplewoody
Post Number: 1112 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 8:35 am: |    |
I think we should build the fence along the border with the exception of Texas. Exchange Texas for the Baja California peninsula land! Include it into the territory with Mexico, and let "W" reign as dictator of Mexico after he's outta office in the US! |
   
Ukealalio
Citizen Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 2526 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 10:11 am: |    |
I think we should build a (temporary) fence around the White House, Camp David and W's Texas ranch. The inhabitant of these places doesn't work, never really did. Mexicans make a much more positive contribution to our country. |
   
SO Ref
Citizen Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1370 Registered: 2-2005

| Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 10:34 am: |    |
Why can we build a fence along our southern border, but I can't build a fence across the front of MY property??? Wouldn't it take away from the "park-like" quality of southern California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas the same way it does in SO/M?
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steel
Citizen Username: Steel
Post Number: 928 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 12:24 pm: |    |
I think it would be ok if it were not more than four feet high and covered with nice shrubbery, (we don't want to look unfriendly). |
   
Nob
Citizen Username: Nob
Post Number: 86 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 3:17 pm: |    |
Do they have deer down there? You might have to forgo the shrubbery.........maybe a catus fence would be better. |