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Meandtheboys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 2809
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 1:20 pm: | 
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Don't have any and would like to get some but don't know where to start. |
Meandtheboys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 2811
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 10:15 pm: |
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Nobody! Really? |
Amyp
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Username: Amyp
Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 10:58 pm: |
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Check out Arturo O’Farrill and his Latin Jazz Quintet on April 2 at the Woman's Club of Maplewood - part of the Maplewood Kids Concert Series - www.maplewoodkidsconcerts.com
You can also check him out every Sunday night at Birdland on West 44th St. - CHICO O'FARRILL'S JAZZ ORCHESTRA
Directed by Arturo O'Farrill. Arranger-bandleader Arturo “Chico” O’ Farrill, Sr. began introducing Afro-Cuban rhythms into jazz in the 1940’s. The band that bears Chico’s name (and is directed by his son Arturo) “continues to showcase the most seamless blend of clavč rhythm and bebop harmony anywhere.” (Time Out New York) This month marks the band’s 9th Anniversary in residence at Birdland (www.birdlandjazz.com) - hope this is helpful! |
Ben
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Username: Ros
Post Number: 279
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 10:59 pm: |
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I know getting out is tough for you, but Cecil's in West Orange has a smokin' Latin Jazz night on Thursdays-featuring Dave Braham's band--great music in a wonderful club.
It is a very broad field: however some masters include Eddie Palmierei, Willie Colon, Machito, Tito Puente ("El Rey")--these guys are more in the New York/Puerto Rico latin jazz mold--worth checking out!
And Amy is right about Arturo O Farrell--he ably carries on his father's tremendous legacy. |
Meandtheboys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 2812
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 11:21 pm: |
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Thanks guys. When I said I "would like to get some" latin jazz, I meant on CD to play at home. Something lively and latin. Do most of the folks you mentioned have albums out?
Will file away the "club" info for possible future reference. |
ds
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Username: Mapmom
Post Number: 6
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 12:22 am: |
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fyi....Sunday Feb. 19th @ 7pm The Goat Cafe 21 South Orange Ave. in South Orange will host Opus 4 for a fantastic evening of Latin Jazz |
ina
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Username: Ina
Post Number: 304
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 10:20 am: |
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Check out Brazilian music. Putumayo is a label that puts out a lot of world music compilations where you'll be able to sample some Latin jazz. |
dave23
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Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1279
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 10:39 am: |
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That's a pretty broad category, but here's a list of great Afro-Cuban/Latin jazz musicians:
Chucho Valdis
Bebo Valdés
Bebel Gilberto
Ibrahim Ferrer
Joao Gilberto
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Rubén González
Chico O'Farrill
I'd hunt around Amazon and listen to some 30-second snippets to find what you are looking for. You may want to start with some compilations. |
darrenso
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Username: Darrenso
Post Number: 21
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 10:47 am: |
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I'm a big fan of Poncho Sanchez. His bands are always top-notch, with great soloists and fantastic arrangements. He's released a bunch of CD's - there's a collection of his work on the Concord Jazz Heritage series that would be a good introduction. Other great records are "Papa Gato", "A Night At Kimball's East", and "Bien Sabroso". |
ds
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Username: Mapmom
Post Number: 9
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 11:44 pm: |
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The Goat Cafe plays Putumayo label music all day long. Check out some brazilian jazz while sipping one of their 32 different flavoured teas. You can even purchase the cd's there for $14.99. |
Ukealalio
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Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 2534
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 12:23 am: |
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Try:
Gato Barbieri-Caliente or Last Tango in Paris
Paquito D'Rivera-Tropicana Nights
If ya wanna get real adventurous try Egberto Gismonti, he's Brazilian and his music can fall anywhere between Jazz and Classical mixed in with his very unique own thing. |
duncanl
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Username: Duncanl
Post Number: 21
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 11:10 am: |
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They sell all the Putumayo cds at Abode in Maplewood. Check them out! |
Jersey Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 91
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 2:28 pm: |
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Tito Puente. Is that too obvious? I think he's great. I'm going to listen right now.
Adios. |
jeffl
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Username: Jeffl
Post Number: 1557
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 3:52 pm: |
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Paula and Jaques Morelenbaum
Can't go wrong with anything by Jobim
Elaine Elias
Astrud Gilberto |
Ond
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Username: Ond
Post Number: 64
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 4:15 pm: |
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Skafrocuban jazz - Yeska
You can listen to samples on Amazon. I have this CD and enjoy it. |
JerryC
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Username: Jerryc
Post Number: 239
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 1:38 pm: |
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Try Dave Samuels and the Carribean Jazz Project, the newest recording, Live from a theater in Pittsburg. It is GREAT stuff and the drummer is Mark Walker, formerly of Maplewood! The CD was nominated for a Grammy.
Also, try the Buena Vista Social Club CD, The Afro-Cuban Allstars, Cubanismo, Paquito D'Rivera. |
Meandtheboys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 2857
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 5:23 pm: |
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Thanks all. Seems like there's plenty of information to work with here. I'm writing down all of these names and giving a listen, one by one, on Rhapsody.
So far the few that I've listened to are a lot more "jazz" than they are "latin" which is fine, but maybe I was looking for something with a little more "salsa-like" flavor--if that makes sense. I did buy a Putumayo "Latin Lounge" CD this past weekend at the International Celebration at Seth Boyden, but it wasn't quite what I had hoped either.
Heard something on WBGO recently that I really liked, but didn't catch a name. Do they have a regularly scheduled latin jazz program that anyone knows of? If so, I'll make a point to listen more closely. |
Jersey Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 93
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 9:58 pm: |
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You want Tito Puente. When you're thinking of Latin Jazz, you're thinking of him. I'm sure of it. Start with him and you won't be disappointed.
Hasta luego. |
Mr. Big Poppa
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Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 493
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 10:42 pm: |
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Me&, I have several "old-school" salsa, son and rumba cds I could lend you to burn if you PL me. |
JazzMe
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Username: Jazzme
Post Number: 170
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 1:26 pm: |
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MATB, you tapped into one of my favorite music (I'm talking hundreds of LPs/CDs here).
But talking about "Latin Jazz" is a pretty vague term.
Do you know the type of sound you're looking for? Brazilian bossa nova jazz, Afro Cuban Jazz , Cuban root Jazz, 1960's "boogaloo" latin soul jazz, big band salsa, ...
All of them...!?!?
Anyway, I don't want to dodge you Q so I'll recommend a handful, as they come to my mind, with some explanative notes - I'll have a bit of a cuban bias to be honest. As per your last post, they are more on the latin side:
1. Various Artists "Original Mambo Kings"
I ususally hate compilations, but for an amazing sampler of classic bebop era Afro Cuban jazz, NOTHING beats this superb collection.
You have there all THE absolute classic bebop Afro Cuban Jazz dates. "Manteca Suite", aranged by Chico O'Farril, feature such giants as D. Gillespie, Quincy Jones, Ernie Royal, J.J. Johnson, Hank Mobley and Lucky Thompson, and Mongo Santamaria. "The Afro Cuban Jazz Suite" has Machito with Charlie Parker, Harry Sweets Edison, Flip Phillips. "Cu Bop City" features the great Howard McGhee... WOW...
2. Cal Tjader "Mambo with Tjader"
Not particularly a classic, but a really hip representative example of 1950's latin jazz small combo, with Cal's fantastic vibes with piano, bass, and percussion. This album perfectly alternates cool and hot numbers, jazz covers and latin classics. I just love this one.
3. Tito Puente "Dance Mania"
One of Tito's classic Salsa Big Band from the 1950's (perhaps THE classic date). It'll get you right off your chair and dancing in seconds.
4. Stan Getz/Charlie Byrd "Jazz Samba"
The "Getz/Gilberto" album is usually the bossa nova jazz album of reference, but this one is just as good and it has the killer "Desfinado" tune. A must have if you like bossa nova.
5. Various -The Rough Guide to Boogaloo
The soulful boogaloo sound of the 1960's is a very groovy danceable latin jazz variance, and while there are MANY albums that could do the job, this one is a good sampler and relatively cheap. It has Ray Barretto, Tito Puente, Joe Cuba, Willie Colon, Celia Cruz, etc.
6. Ruben Gonzales. Introducing
My favorite traditional/roots Cuban album, the absolute Cuban piano virtuoso, in a contemporary recording of stunning quality. Another candidate for this style would be the equally fantastic collective work under the supercision of Ry Cooder, Buena Vista Social Club.
7. Mongo Santamaria - Mongo's Greatest Hits (ATTENTION: the one on FANTASY records)
Because he is the cat, and because simply no latin Jazz collection can be without Mongo's Afro-Blue and Watermelon Man!
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Meandtheboys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 2870
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 5:08 pm: |
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Wow, Jazz Me! I was certain I'd get some good info here, but it seems I've found an expert in you! I understand that "latin jazz" is pretty vague but, unfortunately, I really don't know enough about it to be more specific. The best I can do is say again what I posted earlier: I think I'm looking for something with more of a salsa beat?
I'll give a listen to the ones you've suggested, if I can find them. So far--although I haven't listened to a lot of the suggestions--it seems it may be Tito Puente that's coming the closest, although there may be more vocals than I'm interested in.
Maybe another way for me to describe it is by percentage: I'm thinking 25% "jazz" and 75% "latin." Does that make any sense? |
Meandtheboys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 2871
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 5:24 pm: |
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Another possibility: I'm looking for straight salsa?
Like I said, I heard something I really liked on WBGO, but didn't catch any info. Guess I should find out when they regularly feature latin music and listen closer next time! |
JazzMe
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Username: Jazzme
Post Number: 172
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:02 pm: |
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"Maybe another way for me to describe it is by percentage: I'm thinking 25% "jazz" and 75% "latin." Does that make any sense?"
Sure it does!
I wouldn't try what stores and radios call "salsa" though. It's hard to explain here, but suffice to say that the term often covers a lot of crap you REALLY want to stay away from!
I think what you may be looking for is the big band, danceable, latin-jazz style - the Tito Puente kinda stuff. WBGO plays a lot of that style. If that's the case, from my list, you may want to give a listen to:
1. Various Artists "Original Mambo Kings"
2. Tito Puente "Dance Mania"
3. Mongo Santamaria - Mongo's Greatest Hits (on FANTASY records)
You can also try things like
4. Cuban Blues: The Chico O'Farrill Sessions
Chico O'Farrill
5. Cubanismo- cubanismo.
6. Mario Bauza - Messidor's Finest Volume 1.
7. Machito - Kenya: Afro-Cuban Jazz.
8. Ray Barretto - hard hands (on fania records)
BTW, I am not sure from your post if you mean you WANT more vocals or DON'T want more vocals? There sure are a good many good vocalists, from Beny More to Celia Cruz and Ruben Blades, but not much on the CDs I've listed above.
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Meandtheboys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 2872
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:38 pm: |
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Thanks again, Jazz. Tried finding a lot of those albums you mentioned on Rhapsody. Suffice it to say they don't have a lot of them--no "Original Mambo Kings," no "Mongo's Greatest Hits," although they do have other Mongo Santamaria stuff. I did like the Tito Puenta you recommended, but it's from 1958!
And, no, I don't want vocals, just instrumental. I was saying Tito Puente seems to do a lot of vocals.
Anyway, thanks so much for all the great suggestions. I'll continue my research as time permits!
A little off topic: Aren't you doing Jazz at H2TA on Wednesdays? Is that every Wednesday for the foreseeable future? |
JazzMe
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Username: Jazzme
Post Number: 173
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 10:58 am: |
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Don't let the date stop you Meandtheboys, the idiom is certainly already there in '58 and today's afro-cuban big bands are generally trying to emulate this sound as much as they can.
You can try a more recent date if you want, but I think these recordings are just better. Note: all the recordings I listed except for Cubanismo are "old" (50's and 60's) because this is the golden age for that type of music.
And, yes, I certainly host Jazz on Wednesday at H2TA. The JaZZ lab starts at 8:00 and features a rotating lineup of musicians to ensure variety each week. Please stop by for a drink or just to say hello. |
Jersey Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 97
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 8:57 pm: |
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Meandtheboys,
Try Prado for Mambo instrumentals.
J.B. |
Ukealalio
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Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 2536
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 10:53 pm: |
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I second Perez Prado, this guy was a real innovater. Most of his stuff was wild mambo music with some of the hottest horn arrangements you ever heard. Most is instrumental but he used to make these gutteral sounds that were real wild. |
Jersey Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 198
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 9:54 pm: |
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Meandtheboys, (Yo y los ninos)
So what did you like?
J.B. |
Meandtheboys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3055
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:20 pm: |
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Haven't had a chance to listen to much, don't have much time for the pursuit of idle pleasures these days, but I did hear Eddie Palmieri on WBGO this afternoon and liked him quite a bit. I'll look in to that. Seems he won a Grammy for best latin jazz at some point, although I didn't catch the year or the album.
Seemed like Tito was probably pretty close though. |
Jersey Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 201
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 7:20 am: |
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I have a CD of Tito Puente AND Eddie Palmieri together. Can't find it right now to tell the name. |
Meandtheboys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3057
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 7:26 am: |
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Oooh, that sounds interesting. Let me know when you find it. |
Slideman
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Username: Slideman
Post Number: 8
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 9:37 pm: |
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Check out the Latin Jazz Alliance most Thursday nights at Cecil's in West Orange. Great ensemble, especially percussion, congas and keys. |
Ben
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Username: Ros
Post Number: 287
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 9:07 am: |
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The great Ray Barretto passed away yesterday, last night WKCR FM (89.9), as is their wont, was playing only Ray's music. Don't know if they will continue to do so, but worth checking out. Ray was a master conga player who could groove you to death. Interesting note--he succeded Mongo Santameria as conga player in Tito Puente's band in the late 50's through early 60's--that band was baaaaad! |
Gadgets
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Username: Newgadgets4me
Post Number: 8
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 9:52 am: |
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Log on to www.allmusic.com and start searching by genre. Following links can lead you to a lot of information on artists, you can sample some music and purchase cd's from there or look for them on Amazon. You will have to register but registration is free. If you have an iPod or use iTunes, the iTunes site uses the all music guide reviews. |
Jersey Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 211
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 3:45 pm: |
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Okay, I found it. Tito Puente and Eddie Palmieri, "Masterpiece: Obra Maestra."
I also found my Tito Puente, "The Best of Tito Puente: El Rey Del Timbal!" Which I'm listening to now and there's not a dud on it. Also, no vocals.
Nino Jersey |
JazzMe
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Username: Jazzme
Post Number: 175
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 4:46 pm: |
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"The great Ray Barretto passed away yesterday".
Dang, another great one gone.
My list included his album "Hard Hands" (on fania records), I again strongly recommend it as well as most of what he did. |
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