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Kiba
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Post Number: 66
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I saw the premiere of it last night on channel four, and thought it was AMAZING. the characters were so funny and it was really clever.

anyone else see it? opinions? rants/raves?
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Project 37
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I haven't seen it yet, but from what I know of the premise, was wondering if it was a remake (or ripoff?) of BBC's Hustle? It's currently airing here on AMC (the print ads were all over NYC).

AMC site:
http://hustle.amctv.com/players/index.jsp

BBC site:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/hustle/

Hustle is a fast-paced, stylish show about a team of upscale con artists. They tend to target equally less-than-principled wealthy people. The characters are diverse in terms of background and skills, and all appealing in their own way, the writing is fun (lots of breaking the fourth wall), the cons are creative, situations are outrageous, and the humor is very cheeky.
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Brett Weir
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was pretty good. I loved the interplay between the two detectives, one black and one Irish, who can't stand each other:

O'Brien-"This must be a treat for you, riding in the FRONT of a police car."

Evans- "Listen- I think I can hear you getting fatter."

The woman detective was previously on "The Shield" as Shane's wife Mara, and Billy Gardell was on FX's "Lucky" with John Corbett. Seymour Cassell was on "Lucky" as well and is a great character actor. Steve Harris is great- I wondered when he'd pop up again since "The Practice" ended. The only thing I ever saw Dougray Scott in was "Ever After" with Drew Barrymore, but he's good as a slick operator.

Shows some real promise...
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scribbler
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought the writing was pretty terrible. A much better one is "Thief" on FX with SO resident Andre Braugher. He's such a great actor. It just premiered this week and is probably being shown more than once.
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Brett Weir
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thief was excellent and superior to Heist, but there's room for both. Andre Braugher is a phenomenol actor; one of television's all-time best. His work on Homicide ranks with Gandolfini and Chiklis, and it is unsyrpassed on network broadcast television.
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doulamomma
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 9:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andre's work on a short-lived medical show (Gideon's Crossing) was also great, I thought...also wonderful on Homicide was Andre's real-life wife, Ami Brabson, playing his character's wife. I look forward to this new show!
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Monster©
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe Andre used to live in South Orange at one time,
I think Heist kinda sucks, but Thief rocks so far.
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Phenixrising
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 1:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He still does. He has a kid at SOMS.
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Brett Weir
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great Andre Braugher movie- "Thick As Thieves" with Alec Baldwin, Michael Jai White, Rebecca DeMornay and Bruce Greenwood. Circa 1999, HBO Original film. Great jazz soundtrack and clever screenplay (David Mamet, I think). It comes to mind because it's the only other role I know of where Andre plays a criminal. Worth a watch.
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I'm Only Sleeping
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Post Number: 150
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heist is awful. SO derivative. I can't imagine anyone who's seen Pulp Fiction and Ocean's Eleven enjoying this.
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Brett Weir
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right- Ocean's Eleven wasn't derivative, was it? It's network television IOS- no Palm D'Or for anything with GEICO commercials.
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I'm Only Sleeping
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Post Number: 151
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not really. I mean, it was a remake, obviously, but it wasn't anything like the original. And it was a genre film in some ways, but it was a pretty different take on the genre. So no, it wasn't derivative in my opinion. Not like Heist, which is just a total bad ripoff. Totally unoriginal, bad writing. Hate it.

So what if it's network television? There's still good network television and bad network television. This is bad.
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Kiba
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Posted on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Meh, I found it really funny. The opposing opinions however are quite intresting.
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taam
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Posted on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 7:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i loved Heist. loved it! loved it! loved it!
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Kiba
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Posted on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Taam,
Glad you thought so too!
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Eric Wertheim
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Posted on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 - 3:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thought 2nd episode of Thief was just a notch down from 1st. A little too much philosophising and posturing from all. Still real good and I'm hanging with it. Maybe too much to ask to be as good as 1st episode which was dynamite.
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knak
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Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 7:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was a big fan of "Homicide" and especially liked Andre Braugher and Yaphet Kotto. The character development was compelling and the plots were complex but not ridiculous to follow.
I missed the first "Thief" and was really looking forward to catching the 2nd episode. But the level of violence was INTENSE! and I kept thinking I'd missed essential information, maybe from the first show. Anyone tape the first show or know if it'll be reshown??

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