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     Charles De Mar Citizen Username: Charles_demar Post Number: 249 Registered: 1-2005  |
Meadow's strip tease was the highlight. Hey Now! | ||
| eliz Supporter Username: Eliz Post Number: 1356 Registered: 5-2001 |
I thought it was a big let down for an almost 2 year wait. Spent the whole ep waiting for Eugene (who I barely remember he's such a minor character) to get knocked off (couldn't see that coming...duh). The only reason I can see them having Uncle June shoot Tony was to reinforce his shrink sessions (your family doesn't love you - they tried to kill you). Didn't live up to the hype. | ||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1501 Registered: 5-2001 |
Gee, I guess that since I haven't been that aware of the hype (by virtue of not turning on the TV that often and not having much time to read the paper these days) I was perfectly happy with the episode. Yeah, I could see that poor schlep Eugene's demise coming from the beginning, but I surely couldn't see Tony's being shot coming. Not only does it reinforce "your family doesn't love you" but it knocks Tony's moorings, such as they are, totally out from under him: early on he tells A.J. that the only people you can trust are your family. Hah! I think they picked the story up smoothly from two years ago, they've thrown me right back into wanting to know what happens next, and I'm really happy this bunch of fascinating sociopaths is back. | ||
| doulamomma Citizen Username: Doulamomma Post Number: 1222 Registered: 3-2002 |
WendyP, Can't imagine there is a lot of love for the show in UT...but let me know what you hear! I think you're right about the clans...but I found it weird that Mama had short hair, different clothes etc... Just watched some TLC show the other night on the Dugger family (with one wife) - they had 16 kids at the time of filming & hope for more. They built a 7000 sf house with only 3 bedrooms, a girls, a boys & a parents/nursery. They are on 20 acres so that each kid can built a house for their own family when the time comes...it's pretty obvious that they have some religious sect membership going on, but no specifics given...yowza. Interesting family. | ||
| WendyP Citizen Username: Meandtheboys Post Number: 3222 Registered: 12-2004  |
I saw that too, doula--"interesting" is right. They were from Arkansas. It was crazy and kind of creepy. I think the mom has some kind of screw loose somewhere. Maybe that's just because she seemed entirely too sweet, annoyingly so. I can't imagine 16 kids. It seems utterly insane to me. And I felt particularly sorry for the older kids because it seemed to me they really couldn't be kids because they had so many responsibilities, including taking care of the little ones. Do they ever get a chance to get out in the world and spend time with their peers, being that they are homeschooled. And every single kid's name started with a J. I will say one thing though, they seemed like really sweet, well-behaved, intelligent children. So they're clearly doing something right. The way I figure it, by the time you reach baby #16, you probably push it out with one push in between transfering the laundry (of which they apparently have ten loads A DAY) from the washer to the drier! | ||
| SOSully Citizen Username: Sullymw Post Number: 1183 Registered: 5-2001  |
I hope Jamie-Lynn Sigler came to that WOW body in a healthy way. She looked great, but since she was in very little of the show it just seemed gratuitous to show off her new bod...just like Vito (although I like hers a lot better than Vito's) constantly reminding of his weight loss (although he had some funny lines) | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1320 Registered: 4-2004  |
The new bod came with the new divorce (for Jamie-Lynn). I think Meadow is gonna be a player, and I think Finn will get dumped somewhere along the way. But don't fret- he'll always have Vito... | ||
| Buzzsaw Citizen Username: Buzzsaw Post Number: 4155 Registered: 5-2001  |
Frank Vincent will be at the Barnes and Nobel on RT 22 tonight. I want to go. But I can't. Life in unfair. | ||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1503 Registered: 5-2001 |
Yeah, I thought that Meadow wriggling around in her underwear was totally gratuitous. I remember hearing that Jamie-Lynn Siegler had gotten married not so long ago. Sorry to hear that it didn't last. | ||
| doulamomma Citizen Username: Doulamomma Post Number: 1228 Registered: 3-2002 |
I believe she also was in treatment for anorexcia at some point about 2 years ago... | ||
| Lydia Supporter Username: Lydial Post Number: 1711 Registered: 5-2001 |
The blink-or-you-miss-it scene of Meadow basically wearing a modest 2-piece bathing suit was effective because it conveyed in one quick shot that Meadow is not a little girl anymore, nor is she ambivalent about her sexuality like Carmella. Meadow has the smarts and the looks, one way or another, she's going to enter the family business. AJ's sort of naive, and Tony makes digs at him whenever he can...sort of like his mother did - although hopefully Tony won't try to murder him, but if he does it would be sort of a cool Greek tragedy homage. I was completely surprised that Uncle Jr. was so un-hinged. I let my guard down because he seemed so helpless - who'd of thought he could find a gun when he can't even find his upper teeth? Loved the detail of him throwing the gun under the bed and hiding in the closet like a deadly 4-year-old. | ||
| jersey Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 345 Registered: 1-2006  |
RE: Tonight's Episode (3/19) This is what I was talking about in the beginning of this thread. Is this about the Mafia or some Lifetime show about having a family member in a coma? Come on! Who's gonna get whacked? NOBODY. There's gonna be a suicide and an accidental shooting. Then lots of psychodrama. | ||
| WendyP Citizen Username: Meandtheboys Post Number: 3307 Registered: 12-2004 |
My reaction was pretty much WTF?? What's with the whole "dream" sequence and Tony being another guy, or whatever that nonsense was? The episode was so SLOW. | ||
| jersey Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 347 Registered: 1-2006 |
I was MORE interested to see what happened to Kevin Finnity (pronounced kev-infinity) in pergatory, although it might be hell for Tony Soprano to be at a sales convention forever. J.B. | ||
| The Soulful Mr T Citizen Username: Howardt Post Number: 1634 Registered: 11-2004  |
I didnt care much for last night's episode. Let's hope it gets better... | ||
| Deidra Citizen Username: Deidralynn Post Number: 525 Registered: 6-2004  |
The only thing hubby and I liked about last night's flop was the closing song....was that Annie Lennox? Very cool song. BTW, Pauly Walnuts is my man. He cracks me up by his presence alone. | ||
| eliz Supporter Username: Eliz Post Number: 1367 Registered: 5-2001 |
I felt like I was watching something written by some overwrought freshman english major OD'ing on symbolism. BORING! | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 3607 Registered: 5-2001  |
The Star Ledger today had a pretty interesting interpretation of the episode: http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/sepinwall/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/11428364021 23280.xml&coll=1 | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 1946 Registered: 8-2003  |
Deidra - according the Ledger article: The song played at the end was Moby's "When It's Cold I'd Like To Die," with vocals by Mimi Goese. | ||
| WendyP Citizen Username: Meandtheboys Post Number: 3308 Registered: 12-2004 |
Interesting article. Thanks for the link MHD. O.K. I buy it. But honestly, I don't watch the show for metaphysical nonsense like that. | ||
| The Soulful Mr T Citizen Username: Howardt Post Number: 1637 Registered: 11-2004 |
...yeah, what she said.... | ||
| dave23 Citizen Username: Dave23 Post Number: 1515 Registered: 5-2001 |
The Ledger's TV critics are soooo much better than those at the Times. Last night's episode was pleasantly reminiscent of Six Feet Under. | ||
| I'm Only Sleeping Citizen Username: Imonlysleeping Post Number: 137 Registered: 8-2005 |
I liked the episode a lot, actually. I was worried that the shooting would end up being a lame cliffhanger and this week Tony would be recoverring nicely from a minor wound. Instead, he's hovering near death and the entire Sopranos world that's gotten so familiar and stale over the past couple of seasons is instantly turned upside down. I'm really curious to see how it all plays out. And the purgatory theory is really interesting. It didn't occur to me at the time, but in retrospect it makes a ton of sense. | ||
| BGS Citizen Username: Bgs Post Number: 791 Registered: 10-2003 |
Alan Sepinwall(sp)? wrote exactly what I was thinking last night....Carmela deserves an award!!! Her performance last night was outstanding! IMO this season has gotten off to a good start...last year I was not as anxious for week two and three like I am/was this year....will be interesting to see how the rest of the year turns out. | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 1950 Registered: 8-2003 |
dave23 my thoughts exactly....very much reminiscent of Six feet under. | ||
| breal Citizen Username: Breal Post Number: 769 Registered: 6-2002 |
Thanks for the article. I didn't figure out the purgatory thing on my own, but now that someone's told me, I'm totally down with it. (Except, you could argue that Slowly Becoming a Vegetable at an Endless Orange County Sales Convention IS hell for a man like Tony. The forest fire would at least involve a blaze of glory.) Like everybody else, I could tell in the first episode that we were in for Chase the moralist this season. Judgment season. Early in the episode we got the traditional, nanosecond shot of Eugene's hit's head exploding. That's the normal way mob t.v. shows "talk." Splat goes the blood onto the window. But then show ended with that endless, bloodless shot of Eugene's legs twitching in the garage. Chase is not going to go easy on us this season. I guess we all know that. | ||
| breal Citizen Username: Breal Post Number: 770 Registered: 6-2002 |
Oh, and about the second episode. That wasn't Carm's voice on the phone when Tony called home. Anybody recognize the voice? The restaurant guy's wife, maybe? Dr. Melfi? Who? | ||
| Charles De Mar Citizen Username: Charles_demar Post Number: 260 Registered: 1-2005 |
sounded like Artie's wife. | ||
| doulamomma Citizen Username: Doulamomma Post Number: 1238 Registered: 3-2002 |
I also thought it might be Artie's wife... What was with Meadow & Christopher holding hands? I liked the episode | ||
| Mr. Big Poppa Citizen Username: Big_poppa Post Number: 521 Registered: 7-2004  |
per the article, " The voice of Purgatory Tony's wife wasn't played by Annabella Sciorra, or any other actress who's been on the show before; she's just a generic non-Carmela female voice." I was starting to think the Sopranos had jumped the shark, but the article does provide some different perspectives on the dream sequences. I'll have to hold off my verdict for a couple more episodes. | ||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1510 Registered: 5-2001 |
So my impression that it wasn't Carmela's voice was correct. I liked the episode. I don't watch the Sopranos for the "whacking." I watch it for the quirky characters, the "Jersey-ness" and the amazing performances. I'm fine with seeing where this all leads, and I like the Star-Ledger reviewer's take on the situation. | ||
| eliz Supporter Username: Eliz Post Number: 1371 Registered: 5-2001 |
Eh, I don't know - it kind of felt like Tony had washed up on the set of Lost. I felt all the symbolism was too obivous, the bit about the agent, terroism and middle eastern people - bang hit us over the head with an upcoming story line. A little subtlety would go a long way for me. | ||
| Lydia Supporter Username: Lydial Post Number: 1724 Registered: 5-2001 |
I don't think the Sopranos is about the whacking anymore than 6 Ft was about death. Both series are at their root about families - the family you create and the family you're born into. Interesting foreshadowing in the first episode where Tony told AJ that he can only trust family and friends will screw you over in the end. Ironically, his two closest living family members (mother and uncle Jr.)have proven to be more dangerous to Tony's health than years of mob wars. Carmela's performance was amazing, also ironic considering how horribly he's treated her over the years. I also loved Janice's over-the-top wailing and carrying-on - still has to be the center of attention. | ||
| jersey Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 351 Registered: 1-2006 |
Anyone want to give me credit for the pergatory "kev-infinity" post at 11:25 the night of the show? There was no article at that time and I don't chat with the writers. Not too bad for a Jersey Boy....  | ||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1512 Registered: 5-2001 |
Abso-f***in'-lutely! Good call, Jersey Boy. | ||
| jersey Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 356 Registered: 1-2006 |
Now that's what I'M talking about. Jem, I got you're back. No seriously. If anyone f-king bothers you here on MOL. I'll take care of it. Not for nothin'! J.B. P.S.-That's how a Soprano's episode should sound. P.P.S.- Are you gonna send some flower's to Tony's family? I'd like my name to be on the card. (That's NOT how a Sopranos episode should sound.) | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1338 Registered: 4-2004 |
I watched this episode again last night and I realized that alot did happen if you watched fror the subtleties. The jockeying among the capos for lead dog with Tony's family, the arguing over Eugene's book and other interests, the interaction with Chris and Agent Harris over "terrorists" which may be an attempt by the fed to draw him in, the Janice hysterics, the steady decline of AJ. Not much action but alot of subplots unfolding that may loom large. With Tony laid up/ laid out, several capos seem to believe they are next in line- that can't be good. I blame HBO for the overkill in promoting the season, but things are happening... | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1448 Registered: 11-2001 |
I also re-watched the episode and noticed the same subtleties. Wonder if they are setting it up to become some big power struggle between Silvio, Paulie, Vito, etc. Also wonder if AJ is going to go into the family business sooner rather than later. Does anyone else find Tony's dire prognosis to be a bit much? When he was shot last week, it appeared to be on the right side, and the gun appeared to be small. He has a big fat belly. I don't know much about gun shot wounds, but is it plausible that he would really be on death's door? | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 1955 Registered: 8-2003 |
ess -I think it's plausible because we don't really know how long he was laying on Junior's kitchen floor | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1449 Registered: 11-2001 |
Ahh -- good point, Pippi! Guess I was relying on 911 dispatching someone ASAP. Traffic on Bloomfield Avenue, perhaps?  |
