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     breal Citizen Username: Breal Post Number: 776 Registered: 6-2002 |
He's septic. I think that's what they call it when your blood is full of blecch. That's why the doc was saying he wasn't supposed to still be alive. He's on antibiotics they have him in an induced coma so that if/when his fever spikes & he seizes, brain damage is minimized. | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1341 Registered: 4-2004  |
I keep seeing Tony in the previews for future episodes, and he doesn't seem to be drooling or stupified. It does seem a bit much, especially after skinny little Christopher took four slugs and lived to tell. I keep laughing at Meadow every time she says she's going to medical school OR law school. At this point, you'd think she'd have that figured out. Who is she- Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman ("damn glad to meet you!")? | ||
| The Man Citizen Username: Bumboklaat Post Number: 161 Registered: 2-2005  |
Prediction: Tony will come out of his coma in another week or two but everyone will think that the coma damaged his ability to be the boss. This will lead to guys like Vito and Phil Leotardo plotting to get him out. And of course in a perfect world Meadow will forgo either law school or med school and get a full-time job at the Bing. Yowza! http://www.moviewavs.com/cgi-bin/moviewavs.cgi?Tommy_Boy=spanky.wav | ||
| Joe R. Citizen Username: Ragnatela Post Number: 339 Registered: 6-2004 |
Anybody recognize the hotel? It's the Wyndham in Secaucus (formerly a Radisson). It's right next door to my office. I think they did the shoot last September. I've had many drinks there in my time, but the place never looked so good! I didn't even recognize it first time around. | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1488 Registered: 11-2001 |
Nori, the sushi restaurant, is on Bloomfield Avenue in Caldwell (or West Caldwell). Looks (from the outside) exactly like it did on episode one. | ||
| jersey Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 394 Registered: 1-2006  |
Last night, AJ was accused of trying to buy a gun at the snack bar at South Mountain Arena! I'm going to go try it. J.B. | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1528 Registered: 11-2001 |
I noticed that. Silvio was in St. Barnabas. On another note, Vito makes me ill. | ||
| WendyP Citizen Username: Meandtheboys Post Number: 3444 Registered: 12-2004  |
Tony was in Newark. Pauli makes me ill! I thought it was pretty funny how they were all bad-mouthing Carmela behind her back, and everyone jockying for position! It's all about the money! | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1529 Registered: 11-2001 |
What makes this show so great is that nothing is exactly as it seems, and all relationships are complex. Paulie and Vito (The Nauseating Twins) are completely jockeying for position, and despite public loyalty to "Skip", had no problem screwing over his wife. When Vito put his hands on Finn, my skin crawled. Ugh. The character of Carmela is so well-written, and Edie Falco just acts the hell out if it. She is fantastic. | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1371 Registered: 4-2004 |
Absolutely. I loved it when she unloaded on AJ. Vito and Paulie are on a collision course, and Bacala is definitely overreaching. With Tony and Silvio sidelined, someone's gonna make a power move. It's getting ugly. | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 22864 Registered: 6-2001  |
as for who gets whacked, my prediction is Christafuh and Sil (though his might be a natural death). I also see Carmella pushing some weight around during Tony's convalescence. I loved the local references, but I thought they referred to his being in "Columbia" in the first episode. I'm really digging the imagery of this season, and the Pauli-visits-Tony-and-annoys-him-back-to-life scene was perfect, though I'm glad the dream sequence is over! | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1533 Registered: 11-2001 |
And then did you notice that Paulie came out and told the guys: "I was sitting there holding his hand..." Vintage Paulie. I hope Silvio survives the season. I have a soft spot for Little Steven. | ||
| WendyP Citizen Username: Meandtheboys Post Number: 3447 Registered: 12-2004 |
I also liked the way they pulled the dream sequence together with real life, when Kevin Finnerty was in his room trying to talk on the phone, and banging on the wall because of the loud droning noise coming from the room next door, yelling "shut the F up!" And you listen and it's Pauli droning on. And I liked when he went to the supposed Finnerty family reunion, and dead cousin Tony greeted him and kept saying everybody was waiting, but Tony couldn't take his brief case in with him. And Tony says "my whole life is in there" (meaning the brief case) and cousin Tony responds he has to "let it go." And the quick glimpse of the female figure in the "bright light" of the doorway where "everyone was waiting" that looked very much like Tony's dead mother. And poor stupid, deluded Christopher who has to beat someone in to submission so he can make is pitiful movie! Very crafty! | ||
| Buzzsaw Citizen Username: Buzzsaw Post Number: 4266 Registered: 5-2001  |
"we don't talk like that here" I have been thinking about that for a couple days. | ||
| Alleygater Citizen Username: Alleygater Post Number: 1476 Registered: 10-2004 |
I didn't love the dream sequences. Just to long and drawn out. I hate when Soprano's episodes feel overlong. I actually feel like (outside of the dream sequence) that this season is just more of the same. After this many seasons, I think it's time to stir up the pot a little bit. I could use something TRULY new and different rather than the same ole same ole. That is why I found myself ACTUALLY wishing that Tony either died at the hands of Carmella, anyone in his gang of hooligans or even just because Junior's bullet did him in. I think that the power struggle is already interesting and different, and watching the rest of the fall out (everyone killing everyone else) of Tony being gone would make for a much more interesting way to see the Soprano's end where everyone kills eachother and the Organization no longer has any organization rather than the lame azzed way they are setting up the show to end (Tony gets arrested by the FBI). When Tony started to die while Paulie was talking to him (was actually pretty funny) but I found myself thinking, AWESOME everyone will think that Paulie killed Tony when he had that chance. Just think of the repurcussions. This season might get interesting after all. I also thought for a moment "what if" Carmella took over control of the family. She's smarter than the lot of them and already knows how to push around and manipulate these stupid mobsters. Now that would be interesting. But alas, too radical for everyone to handle. I guess I'm just waiting for the show to REALLY get interesting. The show feels long in the tooth to me. This is the last season, why don't they go out with a F-in bang?!? | ||
| Buzzsaw Citizen Username: Buzzsaw Post Number: 4270 Registered: 5-2001 |
People's expectations are way to high for this show. There is nothing like this on TV. It might be a little more of the same, but it is the same good stuff. What. Do you want the "russian guy in the woods" storyline to come back. I mean, you could be watching Joey or touched by an angel or something. Sure, the Dr. Melfi stuff gets old for me. But it is smart TV. Well written and most of the time thinking out side the box. I love Pauly. To me he is the George Costanza of the show. Edie Falco's acting so far has been first class. We don't talk like that here. | ||
| breal Citizen Username: Breal Post Number: 794 Registered: 6-2002 |
The Oscar goes to Gandolfini for this week's episode, IMO. After all that dream sequence tentativeness, it was kind of thrilling to see Tony start operating viscerally again, from his wounded gut, when he won't let his cousin take his briefcase. I loved seeing Gandolfini's face as he read that situation: Whatever that thing was, in Tony's expression, it's the thing that makes him the boss. And what about Gandolfini up in the chair, at the end of the episode. The head moving but not appropriately. He is a great actor. That he could nail both of those scenes. I also like Edie Falco's expression when Carmella looked at Vito and Paulie in the elevator, after they gave her the money. She's a great actor too. | ||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1518 Registered: 5-2001 |
Paulie's dim-wittedness is just too delicious. Who else could have sat there with all those obvious signs of distress beeping and flashing and still gone on about the flab on his biceps? It was a brilliant comic touch. | ||
| jersey Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 406 Registered: 1-2006 |
Jem, True. I got your back. It was, ahem, delicious. J.b. | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1387 Registered: 4-2004 |
Paulie and Silvio have always been the Rosencrantz and Guildenstern of the show- priceless! | ||
| Lydia Supporter Username: Lydial Post Number: 1743 Registered: 5-2001 |
I love how the writers get the little touches just right - everyone sprinkling their sentences with "God Forbid" when they say something that they really hope won't happen to themselves. Christopher was in fine form - Tony's barely out of his coma and he's begging and threatening Tony to either "let" him start a movie career, or reminding Tony he "owes" him because of Adriana. That was a nice tight scene - Christopher is playing high and low status like a pinball and Tony is still the boss. | ||
| Debby Citizen Username: Debby Post Number: 2261 Registered: 5-2001 |
I missed the episode! You guys are killing me...it sounds like it was fantastic. | ||
| The Soulful Mr T Citizen Username: Howardt Post Number: 1720 Registered: 11-2004  |
If I miss an episode, I avoid this thread until later in the week when I've had a chance to see it. | ||
| breal Citizen Username: Breal Post Number: 805 Registered: 6-2002 |
Another star turn for Paulie last night, don't you think? My favorite scene was the one in the rapper's hospital room. A motley crew, including Tony, has assembled there to watch a pay per view boxing match. The scientist patient (Hal Holbrook) tells the group about a scientific theory that says that a person only perceives that he is an entity unto himself, distinct from other persons--but that's just perception. There weren't really two boxers fighting in that ring, the scientist said. There was just the viewers' perception of the two boxers, and each boxer's perception of the guy he was slugging. Heavy, man. (Why they didn't have some Pink Floyd on the soundtrack at this point I don't know.) Tony and the rapper were into what the scientist was saying. Kindred spirits. But everyone else in the room was annoyed. I totally love this show. | ||
| dave23 Citizen Username: Dave23 Post Number: 1602 Registered: 5-2001 |
breal, They played Pink Floyd over the closing credits. | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1422 Registered: 4-2004 |
It was a great episode and there were plenty of developments. A great cross-section of characters. I loved rapper Da Lux seeing Tony in the hallway- "Yo, Tony Soprano, Original-G". Regarding our original question: Chris Farrow, your choice is looking good about now. But let's stay tuned. | ||
| breal Citizen Username: Breal Post Number: 808 Registered: 6-2002 |
Dave23: Perfect. Brett Weir: Is Da Lux a real-life rapper? And please clue me in about "Original-G." | ||
| dave23 Citizen Username: Dave23 Post Number: 1603 Registered: 5-2001 |
I should have added the song title: One of these Days (I'm Going to Cut You into Little Pieces). | ||
| The Man Citizen Username: Bumboklaat Post Number: 167 Registered: 2-2005 |
An "original G" is just gangland parlance for a person who has always lived their life as a gangster. The rapper was just giving his props to Tony for always being gangster. BTW-Paulie is awesome, that last scene where he clubbed Barrone Jr's knee and then afterwards told the guy, who earned a living as a ski instructor, that he now had to cough up 4 grand a month was hilarious in a very dark way. | ||
| breal Citizen Username: Breal Post Number: 810 Registered: 6-2002 |
The 4 grand is for Paulie's mother/aunt's nursing home bill, don't you think? (Paulie is conflicted. Paulie is jealous. Paulie is definitely hilarious.) Thanks for the tip about Orginal G, The Man, and for the Pink Floyd song title, Dave23. That's what The Sopranos is all about--teachable moments. | ||
| Alleygater Citizen Username: Alleygater Post Number: 1534 Registered: 10-2004 |
Paulie was conflicted about his old mother (that one that is still alive) after Tony told him what a jerk he had been, pointing out that she had always been there for him when he was a kid, had raised him good and bailed him out of jail countless times. Having said that, TS and I were under the impression that Paulie clubbed the guy at the end because he was jealous, that Barrone Jr.'s Mother REALLY loved her son. I sense that Paulie was envious of that love and in his fragile mental state, took it out on the momma's boy. What I found quite good about this episode was that somehow the writers made us actually feel bad for a scumbag that Paulie. TS actually said, "awwwwwww!!!!" aloud when Paulie was crying. I looked at her and told her not to have sympathy for him quite yet, just watch he'll show you what he's capable of still. And there was the last scene clubbing the sh*t out of the guy. Nice! | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1596 Registered: 11-2001 |
I would agree, Alley. I thought it was sheer jealousy, but also to get the money to keep her in the home. It was a combination of guilt and jealousy. | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1423 Registered: 4-2004 |
I actually thought it was Paulie's twisted method of recouping the money he "wasted" on keeping Nucci in Green Grove (the amount was the same). Breal- I believe Da Lux is a fictional rapper, much like Massive Genius (Bokeem Woodbine) in the first season. And of course, Da Lux was paying homage to Tony as an O.G.- Original Gangsta (or in his case, Gangster). | ||
| gtonne Supporter Username: Gtonne Post Number: 96 Registered: 9-2002 |
Da Lux was played by Lord Jamar - who is a real rapper : http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=4536 | ||
| jersey Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 421 Registered: 1-2006 |
I was happy that they returned to the central plot. I'm not against dreams. I am against episodes that are mostly dreams. There was an article in the Sunday Magazine Section of the NYT last year titled, "T.V. can make you smarter." (Or something like that.) It had these color diagrams about shows like the Sopranos that have multiple storylines that run from one episode to another. It talked about how much more complex the plots were because people could watch the episode multiple times with TIVO and other similar recording technology. That was missing from the coma episode. Now they're back to challenging us to remember what happens from one episode to the next. This is good T.V. The violence has emotional relevence too. It's not gratuitous. J.B. (and Ebert) | ||
| Mr. Big Poppa Citizen Username: Big_poppa Post Number: 569 Registered: 7-2004  |
Was it just me hearing things or did Carmela say "candy stripper" instead of "candy striper"? | ||
| jersey Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 423 Registered: 1-2006 |
I just checked it on TIVO. It was "candy striper" with a New Jersey accent. You gotta love an accent where "striper" sounds like "stripper." OR, an ear that hears it that way. Bada BING! J.B. | ||
| Mr. Big Poppa Citizen Username: Big_poppa Post Number: 570 Registered: 7-2004 |
Darn! I knew it was too good to be true! | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1425 Registered: 4-2004 |
The up-and-coming rapper who takes one in "the fleshy part of the thigh" was Treach of Naughty-by-Nature. Local guy makes good! | ||
| WendyP Citizen Username: Meandtheboys Post Number: 3456 Registered: 12-2004 |
I thought it was very interesting that Carmella warned Tony to watch Vito. Has she ever gotten involved in "the business" before? Also, do you think there's any chance Tony is going to be "Born Again?" And I totally took it that Pauie was beating that kid out of sheer jealousy, and I haven't got the slightest bit of sympathy for him. If he and Christafuh were "whacked" tomorrow, I wouldn't miss either one! |
