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     eliz Supporter Username: Eliz Post Number: 1397 Registered: 5-2001 |
I thought the stuff with Meadow was interesting - her disdain for government, her sympathy for Johnny Sacs, her interest in the white collar crimes - maybe she is heading into the family business. Poor Vito - he may have found an idyllic spot where could live happily every after but I think his days may be numbered. | ||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1522 Registered: 5-2001 |
I think the hunky lawyer was effectively warned off Meadow by the female lawyer - "Tony Soprano's daughter." End of story. I agree with Eliz. Meadow seemed to be reaching for ways to see white collar crime as worse than the family business (and I guess that in some cases - like Enron - I'd agree that the damage is greater.) On the one hand she's criticizing her mom for voting for Bush, but on the other, she's making excuses for the thugs in her life. | ||
| MeAndTheBoys Citizen Username: Meandtheboys Post Number: 3533 Registered: 12-2004  |
BTW, as far as Vito was concerned, that pretty Arts and Crafts vase he was man-handling (I was waiting for him to drop it) was a "pot." A clear illustration of how clueless he really is--and what a "come on" that was on the part of the guy who was working in the store! | ||
| eliz Supporter Username: Eliz Post Number: 1398 Registered: 5-2001 |
Actually I thought his use of "pot" was surprisingly correct. It's very appropriate when describing pottery. | ||
| Wendyn Supporter Username: Wendyn Post Number: 2954 Registered: 9-2002  |
Yeah but I couldn't stand the way the store owner was almost hitting on Vito. I can't imagine someone that attractive hitting on someone like Vito unless there are no other options around. And it seemed pretty clear from the diner scene that wasn't the case. | ||
| jersey Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 508 Registered: 1-2006  |
Okay, I'm all caught up. (TIVO) Meadow and her fiance talking: Fiance: "They're going to mete it out themselves." Meadow: "This is untenable." College kid vocabulary. It was perfect. To contrast, discussing the "Al Quedas, or something like that," (Tony) Christophah: "...he and his girlfriend have a dog, a springer spaniel." Each scene awesome for it's writing. The dialogue is a parody of each. I'll keep watching. J.B. | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1757 Registered: 11-2001  |
The dialogue was superb. I have never heard as many terms for homosexual sex as I did last night. The whole show was like a series of brilliant one-liners. | ||
| Dego Diva Citizen Username: Fmingione Post Number: 718 Registered: 12-2003 |
I'm just really enjoying that one by one, we're seeing each character's true self, and the events in their lives that final expose their "weakness". Looks like next week's episode might focus a Christopher a bit more. | ||
| Claflin Kennerly Citizen Username: 2cents Post Number: 6 Registered: 3-2006 |
I like any scene with Christopher in it. I love his character and the growth since he became a captain last year. He is the man to replace Tony in the future. Is it not important to keep it in the family? | ||
| Alleygater Citizen Username: Alleygater Post Number: 1760 Registered: 10-2004 |
So let me ask, who here thinks Tony "got a pass" while he was in the slammer? Sure, he was only in for a short period of time, but a man's got needs. Not to mention he got so defensive.  my 2 cents: The episode was good. Vito being gay is a fun subplot. It's a shame that every scene I keep thinking, wow maybe Vito will make it through this (which is good writing in itself) but only to remember that no one is allowed to escape the business (just remember the first episode of this season). Poor Vito, I mourn you already. Now the only question is How will they find him and how will he go? | ||
| Amateur Night Citizen Username: Deborahg Post Number: 1829 Registered: 5-2001  |
What about Finn? You think they'll let him break up with Meadow and head off into the sunset? Or is that the sound of knees breaking I hear? I think vito should be allowed to go into business with the hunky antique store guy, live a healthy, happy gay life, and have his kids up with him for summers. | ||
| breal Citizen Username: Breal Post Number: 847 Registered: 6-2002 |
I'm caught up now too, and I'm mad. Why is Chase making me aware of Vito's humanity now, NOW, when he's about to get whacked? Why can't he STFU about it at this point? No, no. In that New England town, outside of his mafia life, outside of his straight life, Vito shows us another side. He gradually lets his defenses down, takes off his mask. (Mistake!!!) Remember that shot of the New Hampshire license plate, "Live free or die"? For Vito, it's "live free: tomorrow you die." I don't think he was flirting with that antiques store guy. He's all eyes for that ceramic pot. No browsing necessary. Vito knows the beautiful one right away. He picks it up and holds it in his hands. Could things have gone another way? I would say that there's something really Italian about that moment, except then the non-Italian antiques store guy approaches, and the antiques store guy can see the pot's beauty too. Vito and the antiques store guy see the pot together. It's a Chase stealth intimacy attack, just when we all know perfectly well Vito's about to get whacked. I'm mad about it, and I'm staying mad about it until Sunday. | ||
| Phenixrising Citizen Username: Phenixrising Post Number: 1538 Registered: 9-2004  |
Why does everyone "assume" Vito will get WHACKED soon? He was Tony's biggest money maker in construction. Tony even suggested therapy to help the guy. I think Vito's character will develop further into the show. If he goes, its of his OWN doing. Anyways, I'm looking forward on this character development! | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2104 Registered: 8-2003  |
I don't think Tony will give the OK to whack Vito, but I don't think he can prevent any of the other guys ( Carlo, Paulie) from doing the job | ||
| breal Citizen Username: Breal Post Number: 848 Registered: 6-2002 |
He can't be a good earner anymore, and there's no forgiving that. I bet Paulie will do it Jealous old scaredy-cat. At least it will be a well-acted scene. | ||
| Joe R. Citizen Username: Ragnatela Post Number: 390 Registered: 6-2004 |
Phil's going to do Vito (remember Vito is married to Phil's cousin or neice). Vito has dishonored her. The question is, will Phil get permission from John? Will Tony turn the other cheek because this settles the score for the Cousin Tony's hit on Phil's brother last season? | ||
| sk8mom Citizen Username: Sk8mom Post Number: 440 Registered: 11-2003 |
I thought the most hilarious parts this season were (i) Tony to the born again minister guy, who said dinosaurs and men walked the earth at the same time -- "You mean like the Flintstones?", then (ii) Vito dancing in his Village People costume. The boy just wants to have fun! | ||
| magmasystems Citizen Username: Magmasystems Post Number: 345 Registered: 1-2002 |
I am wondering about all of the hanging endings and whether or not they will ever be resolved .. perhaps in the final 8 episodes, everything will come together. Outstanding items: 1) The sudden disappearence of Furio .. will he return to claim Carmella? 2) The Russian soldier who escaped in the Pine Barrens 3) Vito 4) Dr. Melfi's rapist ... will she ever confess to Tony and will she send Tony after him? 5) The returns of Gloria (the Mercedes saleswoman) and the Russian gooma (There are probably a lot of other hanging storylines that I am forgetting) | ||
| Wendyn Supporter Username: Wendyn Post Number: 2965 Registered: 9-2002 |
I thought that Gloria (Annabella Sciorra who I love) killed herself? | ||
| magmasystems Citizen Username: Magmasystems Post Number: 346 Registered: 1-2002 |
Did she? I don't think so. Last I remember, Tony left her house after choking her. She was begging him to kill her, but I don't think that she took her own life. | ||
| magmasystems Citizen Username: Magmasystems Post Number: 347 Registered: 1-2002 |
Wendy, I just checked the internet .. you are correct. | ||
| Buzzsaw Citizen Username: Buzzsaw Post Number: 4488 Registered: 5-2001  |
I read somewhere that David Chase said No Russian guy or Furio. But. That means nothing. | ||
| Mr. Big Poppa Citizen Username: Big_poppa Post Number: 588 Registered: 7-2004  |
WTF?!?!??!? I don't tune in to watch the Artie Bucco show! Christafa's reference to to "Law & Order: SUV" was great! I always think SUV when I see the title so it actually sounded correct to me at first. | ||
| Virtual It Girl Citizen Username: Shh Post Number: 4321 Registered: 5-2001 |
I thought it was a good episode. My husband disliked it though. I especially liked the comparison of the Italians on the plane showing off their purchases to Christafa who wants everything for free. | ||
| The Soulful Mr T Citizen Username: Howardt Post Number: 1812 Registered: 11-2004  |
where's Vito? | ||
| eliz Supporter Username: Eliz Post Number: 1408 Registered: 5-2001 |
I mean really - would some Soprano underling of seasons past really have ripped off Tony's oldest and dearest friend???? I find Artie really annoying and could care less about him - this came out of left field. | ||
| Buzzsaw Citizen Username: Buzzsaw Post Number: 4548 Registered: 5-2001 |
That's the second time that kid got as butt kicked. Was he on Doogie Howser MD? I thought it was a weird episode. Artie. What a time bomb. It was nice to see David Chase make a Hitchcock cameo at the end. Where do you think they shot the scene with the Mayor of Munchkin Land? Queens? | ||
| Mr. Big Poppa Citizen Username: Big_poppa Post Number: 589 Registered: 7-2004 |
I think you are correct, Buzz  | ||
| greenetree Supporter Username: Greenetree Post Number: 7368 Registered: 5-2001  |
Yep - Vinny. I loved the episode. It set up so many potential story lines. It also shows how everything is coming apart. People are weak and unfocused. Christafuh was hysterical; the Ben Kingsley scenes, him mugging Lauren Bacall. Twisted genius! | ||
| Mozek Citizen Username: Mozek Post Number: 71 Registered: 4-2005 |
When/where was the David Chase cameo? Missed it! | ||
| Buzzsaw Citizen Username: Buzzsaw Post Number: 4552 Registered: 5-2001 |
at the end, when the two guys from Italy are talking on the plane. He is sitting across from them. | ||
| breal Citizen Username: Breal Post Number: 855 Registered: 6-2002 |
Tony was sometimes a shrink, sometimes a coach, and sometimes a boss in this episode. The way he dealt with Artie, not reacting to all the zingers (shrink). Encouraging Artie to do what he had to to keep the place open (coach). He's kind of a shrink with the doogie guy that Artie beat up. He lets the kid vent. But then he's a boss when, during good bye hug, he backs the kid off ("I'm going to tell you this once.") Maybe I can pick up some parenting tips from this show. On the other hand, consider A.J. | ||
| eliz Supporter Username: Eliz Post Number: 1409 Registered: 5-2001 |
Bennie Fazio and Vinnie from Doogie Howser are both played by Max Casella. Good catch. | ||
| Joe R. Citizen Username: Ragnatela Post Number: 395 Registered: 6-2004 |
Underlings frequently do stupid things on the show, because....they're stupid! RIP Brendan Fallone, Matt Bevilaqua, Sean Gismonte and others I'm not recalling right now. I loved the episide. I love the last scene with Artie (with Tony's coaching) rediscovering his love of cooking, lovingly paging through his handwritten notebook to cook for the latecomers (the rabbit he shot in the garden). Remember Tony saying, "Don't let the Mexicans do all the cooking for you". Question, were the Napolitani on the plane looking through stuff they bought, or was it part of the swag Chris took from Bacall? It seems like Artie and Charmaine (gotta love the name) are a loving couple again. Glad to see it? Locations: Where is "Da Giovanni"? It wasn't "Il Tulipano", was it? | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1167 Registered: 10-2004  |
Sir Kingsley! | ||
| greenetree Supporter Username: Greenetree Post Number: 7380 Registered: 5-2001 |
I have to admit that I was very freaked out about the bunny..... | ||
| Buzzsaw Citizen Username: Buzzsaw Post Number: 4555 Registered: 5-2001 |
yes. me too. even more so when it was in the tupperware. though I have to say that it looked like I would have loved what he was cooking had it been chicken or something. | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1479 Registered: 4-2004  |
I liked it alot. Artie is a nudge, but he's been one of Tony's consistent ties to his better self (small as that part is). And Artie is the whining, complaining poor-me friend that we all have and never let go of- we love them even though they drive us nuts. Christafuh punching out Lauren Bacall was worth the price of admission all by itself- and she was a sport to play along (Jesus, my f**king arm!). I agree with the Ledger write-up that Artie may finally be seeing the light and Christafuh is the one spiraling out of control. And I also think Tony has slipped a bit if he's gonna let Benny Fazio steal from and then threaten to kill his closest friend. If Tony is still Tony, that burned hand should be enough to earn Benny a beat-down. My guess is that Chase is winding Tony up for a major blow-up to reassert himself to all. Preceded of course by a dream filled with dead characters... | ||
| MeAndTheBoys Citizen Username: Meandtheboys Post Number: 3568 Registered: 12-2004 |
I had to turn the channel every time it went to Christafuh in Hollywood. It was just too painful for me to watch. The clueless, ignorant, bumbling, coarse Christafuh with his horrific screenplay, actually believing he could get an actor of the caliber of "Sir" Kingsly, and then trying to cozy up to him, was just more than I could bear. | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2130 Registered: 8-2003 |
cozying up to him, and then threatening him! |
