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     Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 4163 Registered: 5-2001  |
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| buzzsaw Citizen Username: Buzzsaw  Post Number: 5723 Registered: 5-2001  |
I thought it was going to come back. | |||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 4165 Registered: 5-2001 |
Maybe in one or two 2-hour movies, but the series is kaput.  -s. | |||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1607 Registered: 5-2001 |
Discussion of Deadwood has been dead for way too long here, that's for sure. I just noticed your new Charlie Utter avatar in another thread, which clued me in to thinking that you MIGHT have posted something about Deadwood, and voila! Three weeks ago was the absolute sharpest, funniest episode ever. Last night's episode (and the week before) was really sad, with sweet, sweet Mr. Ellsworth murdered, and Al showing just how perturbed he is by going into his cleaning routine, and we're left hanging, wondering what on earth will happen in those two upcoming two-hour episodes. I can't wait for Deadwood's return, but I wish it could go on longer, because then it'll really be dead. | |||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 4168 Registered: 5-2001 |
I was pretty disappointed. No real closure, aside from Hearst's departure and Jane and Joannie snuggling under Bill's buffalo blanket... And what a waste of all those Chinese extras! -s. | |||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1608 Registered: 5-2001 |
I really didn't expect closure. From the little that I've read about the real Deadwood, I knew that Hearst would live on, as would Swearingen, Bullock and Starr, so I wasnt expecting a big cathartic shootout. I liked Alma's feisty retort to Hearst and the fact that she's going to stick around. And being a romantic, I was happy with the current state of affairs, as it were, between Sol and Trixie and Jane and Joanie - though I doubt that Jane and Joanie will be happy for long. The real Jane eventually married a man, whom she later abandoned, and died of alcoholism in her early 50's. I think I'm going to miss skanky Leon. | |||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2816 Registered: 8-2003  |
The lack of closure really makes me wonder what plotlines will be resolved in the 2 hour episodes and how the series will ultimately end. I am so sad the season ended | |||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1996 Registered: 10-2004  |
The original Deadwood completely burned to the ground and was rebuilt. That had to be something for the next season - as you saw all the dialogue around the fire brigade and the new fire pump. _South_Dakota,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadwood,_South_Dakota | |||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1611 Registered: 5-2001 |
I agree that a fire is probably going to figure in those last couple of episodes. There's an interesting site that compares what's known about the historical characters of Deadwood (at least, known by the writer of the web site) with their portrayal in the show. I think that David Milch did an absolutely brilliant job of conjuring up fascinating, multi-layered characters. According to the descriptions, Swearengen was just a total, vicious SOB, and Hearst wasn't a bad guy at all. The bit a few weeks back where Hearst is scornful of the guy who can just barely read is interesting, since according to his bio, Hearst was a barely competent reader. BTW, I was wrong about Jane's age at death - she was 47, not in her early 50's. | |||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2819 Registered: 8-2003 |
hey Jem - remember when we talked about that fabulous episode from a few weeks back and I said a cast member wrote it but I couldn't remember who? It was none other than Dan Doherty (aka W. Earl Brown) I was just tickled to find that out, because I think he's a great actor and a great character. | |||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1614 Registered: 5-2001 |
Thanks for chasing that info down, Pippi. I went to the HBO site to read more about him, and it turns out that he got his start acting in Wes Craven films! He was in Something About Mary and also in Being John Malkovich - think I"ll have to watch those two again to catch his performance. There are so many wonderful actors in Deadwood - I hope to see them all turning up in future productions. But it'll never be the same. Deadwood has such a special atmosphere, and I love them as an ensemble. | |||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2821 Registered: 8-2003 |
I remember him in Something About Mary, but not Being John Malkovich. Alas, I would not know him from his humble beginnings in Wes Craven films, they just ain't my thang  | |||
| notehead Supporter Username: Notehead Post Number: 3789 Registered: 5-2001  |
It's weird to recall that Al is responsible for the death of Alma's previous husband. Yet now they're basically allies against Hearst. Hearst became the main protaganist and now he's simply ridden away on a stagecoach, fooled into thinking that Trixie was killed. No big violent confrontation, after all that effort to accumulate forces. Not a single frame of Doc in the last episode. I feel kind of ripped off! | |||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1615 Registered: 5-2001 |
Pippi - far be it from me to suggest that I would know anything about Wes Craven films, either! I just found that little tidbit in the bio. Slasher films aren't my thang either. Yeah, this last season has been way too light on Doc - he's such an interesting and contradictory character ...well, aren't they all? And where the heck did he pick up TB? No one else seems to have it. The Doc situation has been very unsatisfactory, I agree. Oh - and what the heck is Cy Tolliver's problem? Not just his nasty little scenes with "Stupid" but in general? | |||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 2020 Registered: 10-2004 |
Tolliver is probably a distant relative of Dick Cheney... | |||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2824 Registered: 8-2003 |
I think Cy is totally insane. Joanie's leaving him made him go off the deep end | |||
| jem Citizen Username: Jem Post Number: 1617 Registered: 5-2001 |
I like the Dick Cheney connection - though Cy's a handsome devil, and Dick is just..well.. the devil. | |||
| mtierney Citizen Username: Mtierney Post Number: 959 Registered: 3-2001 |
I checked Jem's website suggestion and it was really fascinating! Particularly the explanation of the incredible swearing on the show. I just took it for granted that is was historically accurate and that John Wayne was really talking like that in all those Westerns. Wrong! The site explains that the rough language of the day - rarely used in mixed company - sounded dumb in today's foul-mouthed cultural environment. They upped the language to the f-----wording. Can you just picture Swearengen saying "Deng it," or "Gosh darnit," or "Jumping geehosifacs" (sp?) in the heat of the moment? What are your favorite old cowboy curses? | |||
| Diastole Citizen Username: Diastole Post Number: 27 Registered: 7-2005  |
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| Alleygater Citizen Username: Alleygater Post Number: 2564 Registered: 10-2004 |
I only just got to see the last episode (thank you Tivo Gods). I too was disappointed. If I had to guess, I think Hearst knew it was the wrong girl. Regardless of whether he really knows or not, he's razing Deadwood down to the ground. That was made clear even before Trixie shot him. As for Hearst riding off, I would say that it was made clear that while he is physically gone from the camp, he has empowered Cy to act out his wishes while he's away. Also with the telegraph, he can do plenty of damage from afar. It wasn't clear to me why Alma was going away, if in the scene before she was telling her daughter that they were now able to stay. And yet they seemed pretty packed up to go in the stagecoach at the end. Anyone understand that? I must say that even as a SEASON finale (not a show finale) that this one was bit underwhelming. I expected a bit more fighting. I expected some more of the conflicts that were building all season long to FINALLY come to a boil and explode. Instead, what we got was only a very small release of tension. Sure the stage is set for a new chapter (which we all know now isn't coming) but the revelations weren't really all that significant. Alma sold which was really anti-climactic. Bullock is no longer sheriff (ok next season we see what he chooses to do...whoopie), Star and Trixie get to live together (who cares there is more tension if they can't), Wu and Hawkeye brought reinforcements for a battle that we probably will never see, Cy continues to be the evil opponent that rarely does anything noteworthy in camp. Utter, Jane, the acting troupe, Mose, the >>insert the N-word here<< General, Joannie, Doc, and countless other interesting characters never really had any sort of meaningful climax in the big picture and certainly not in the final episode. I felt sad hitting the Delete button on my Tivo. I find myself anxious to see if they make the 2 hour specials, but wonder deep down inside if they ever could really tie this story up without it feeling sensational and gimmicky. Maybe it really is all for the best if we never find out what happened. Oh, I don't know. |
