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Reesa
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Username: Reesa

Post Number: 101
Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

we are about do re-do our tiny half bath - there is currently a fairly large, and oddly raised steam radiator in there. In our other rooms downstairs (living room, dining room, den) there are partially recessed radiators with metal covers - would people recommend doing that or changing to a different type of heater in that room? The way it is set up now - the radiator is completely in the way.
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 161
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 7:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do bathrooms require radiators at all?
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Master Plvmber
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Post Number: 465
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 7:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Reesa, there are too many options to list here. Why not have your plumber take a look and give you some ideas.
Be careful what you do with that "oddly-raised steam radiator" in there.
It's probably in its position for a reason and moving or removing it may affect the rest of the system.


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CJ
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not to get off topic here, but is there any way to switch from the big bulky full radiators to the partially recessed ones with metal covers?? (is that a really dumb question?)
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Master Plvmber
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Post Number: 466
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not a dumb question, a very do-able job (in most cases).

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CJ
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Username: Ceejay1234

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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 9:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks! Which kind of expert would do a job like that?
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Shawna
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't help you with the radiator situation, but if I were redoing the bathroom floor, I would put tile warmers under the floor. Toasty toes in the morn!
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greenetree
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Post Number: 6573
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 5:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shawna - we did just that during our renovation. I love the radiant floor heat, but it is quite expensive and you start getting into hot water loops, how (if) it works with your current system and is a very bad idea if you don't have your house (or the rooms with the floor heat) insulated.

Reesa/CJ - the best person for this kind of thing is a plumber whom you trust. They have all sorts of heating & cooling engineering expertise rattling around in their heads & any plumber worth his/her salt will be able to design the correct configuration for your home. It's never just the one room; the whole system is connected.

A fake contractor once commented to me on how he thought that my plumber "made too much per hour" considering "how little" he did. Yeah. My plumber may have been expensive but he knew what he was doing and I didn't have to bring anyone in and pay them to redo his work.

But, I digress.... Get the expert opinion from the git-go and you won't have issues down the road.
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Reesa
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Post Number: 103
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks all
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 166
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When building a new bathroom, is it easy enough to build in a hot-water heated floor, coming off of the Hot Water line to the shower or something?

The house is Steam Heat, and we're adding a 3rd floor bathroom. There is a radiator in the attic, but not where we want to put the Bathroom, and we thought it too costly to install a 2nd radiator up there, so were going to put in a small electric heater in the bathroom.

Any advice? Is it possible to put in a hot water heated floor under the tiles instead?
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greenetree
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Our floor heat was put in from underneath, which would mean taking down the ceiling in the room under the space.

We now have two heating systems; the new, gas one & the old oil. The kitchen, den & new bathroom are on the new system & I was really tempted to connect our bedroom to it at the time, so that we could have warm floors & keep the oil system turned very low. But, the thought of the mess and expense of tearing down the dining room ceiling at the time was too much.

I don't know why you couldn't do the floor heat under ceramic. But, again, you need the plumber. The other question is whether your present system can handle the load of another room, even if it is tiny.
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 169
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good point greenetree, and another reason we were wondering if it might just be better to put in an electic heater, expecially since the attic has always been the warmest part of the house, and least area needing additional heat.....but I'm too nervous about the concept of a bathroom without ANY heat options, so the hotwater floor heat sounds like a great idea
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Bob K
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Post Number: 10332
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Smarty - I don't think it practical to put in a hot water loop in your attic. I am sure it can be done, but the cost would be a budget buster.

Is the attic bath going to be used daily? Or is it a guest area? Electric heat is expensive to use, so the amount of use can be an issue.

A strip of electric baseboard will warm the bathroom and can be turned off when not in use. Another option (or possibly in conjuction with the electric baseboard) is to instal one of those electric combination light, heating and ventilation units in the ceiling.
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Fotboat
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Post Number: 48
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another option is to put in an electric radiat floor heater, which come out recently just for bathrooms. This is just a thin mesh layer that lays under a tile floor. You then hook it up to a standard wall switch, or a wall timer switch.
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 173
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does Maplewood code require a heat to be in the Bathroom? That is the real concern, because the attic is fairly warm, and I anticipate that an electric heater would be scarcely used (ie Guest situation).

Interesting idea Fotboat...have you used one?
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Jason
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Post Number: 43
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 2:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fotboat - I started looking at the heating mats after coming across a listing on Costco's website:

http://www.costco.com/Common/Search.aspx?whse=&topnav=&search=heating%20mat&N=0& Ntt=heating%20mat

Has anyone got something like this installed? If so, what do you think of it? I'd be looking at something like this for both the bathroom and kitchen (which is above an unheated garage).

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