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CJ
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Username: Ceejay1234

Post Number: 6
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 6:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone repainted their house recently (exterior)? For your basic paint job, assuming the paint isn't anything particularly fancy, and contractor is reasonable, around how much should this project cost?
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Mummite
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Username: Mummite

Post Number: 203
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 2:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

$3000-6000 depending on size of your house

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Jennifer Pickett
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Username: Jpickett

Post Number: 139
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 9:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree, $5-6K for a small 3BR. That includes stripping current paint, excludes painting windows.
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 193
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 8:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CJ- Couple thoughts from an ex-painting contractor:

1. Skip the stripping. One of the most well regarded paint companies in town, does a complete strip and re-paint, on the grounds that all the old base paint is going to come off if you don't do this, and they also play-up lead paint fears. They do a HECK of a great paint-jpb (neat, efficient, timely: saw them do 3 neighbors homes)- Unfortunately the full strip is just not necessary....keep it to a full scrape, prime bare wood only.

2. If you are repainting the same color, you only need one coat and you are better off using a top-quality paint (which are typically guarenteed for 20 years....if your paint fails, it's because of poor preparation or moisture, not because of how many coats were applied) If you are changing colors, than you need 2 coats.

3. Consider doing trim one year, and siding another year. Set-up costs aren't that much that theres a huge advantage to getting it all done at once. Staggering the siding and trim will make the job go faster (one color to work with) and will always stagger a fairly large household expense, kind of like splitting up the Winter and Summer olympics.

4. Don't skimp on paint quality (Ben Moore, Sherwin Williams both great)
Don't skimp on reputation of contractor.
Don't pay the final payment until you are 100% satisfied. Once paid, you won't get the contractor back to your home anytime soon.

I hope this helps, and don't hesitate to ask me any questions throughout the job.

PS. Full paint removal does more to put Lead out and about your home/air/soil, than leaving it as is, several layers behind non-lead paint.
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Meandtheboys
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Username: Meandtheboys

Post Number: 2721
Registered: 12-2004


Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 9:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Smarty, I have one small exception to your post and it has to do with #4. I'm assuming the "well-regarded" company that does "a HECK of a great paint job" you referred to is Rutgers.

Rutgers did our house in September 2002 and I loved them. Not long after (maybe 2003), we had a particularly rough winter and ice damning in our gutters cause serious damage to the paint job on our soffits(?). Rutgers came back when we called and quickly made the necessary fixes. We were charged a very miminal amount, as the damage was not a result of the job Rutgers did.

Then, this past summer, just as our 3 year warranty was about to expire, a couple other problems cropped up that DID have to do with the job Rutgers did, and AGAIN, they came soon after being called, and did the job in a very timely manner, at NO cost to us.

So it may not be true that "you won't get the contractor back to your home anytime soon."
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 196
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 9:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great testemonial, and why it's so critical to have a quality contractor (and worth every nickel)...Your paint job doesn't end when the job is over, as you should expect issues like what MATB had.

One other thought....SAVE THE PAINT used, as the paint will be invaluable for touch-ups in the following years. (Blends right in). Also, use 100% latex paint.
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Bob K
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 10373
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sanding is controversial. However, a lot of the houses here have been painted on average every five years for 75 to 100 years. Some of the jobs were done well, some weren't. If there is a lot of alligatored paint and loose paint it probably makes sense to take the house back to bare wood. This is something that should only be done once every 75 or so years.

Don't let a painter talk you into doing this every paint job. It isn't needed and after a few sandings your siding will be as thin as news print.
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mim
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Username: Mim

Post Number: 549
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They really do try to sell you on 'back to bare wood' preparation. One contractor refused to take our job without doing it! (and of course, it jacked up the price considerably)
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 201
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some facts that may help you.....I painted over 3,000 homes, over a 9 year period of time, and we didn't do full paint removal on any of those homes...it was not an issue.

If the paint is ready to come off, it will come off with a scraper, and if it's been painted frequently with good paint, this will likely not happen for very very long time.
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SO1969
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Username: Bklyn1969

Post Number: 187
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Search function isn't working well.

Comments on Mario's?

I found it somewhere on MOL, but I'm not getting it to come up on the search.
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Shanabana
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Username: Shanabana

Post Number: 134
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 7:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've noticed that some of the paint removal companies don't prime after they've gotten down to the bare wood. That's a bad paint job, I think.
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shoshannah
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Username: Shoshannah

Post Number: 1152
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We used Rutgers a few years ago. They scraped/sanded about 50% of the surface. Then they primed. Then they applied two coats of paint. We were very happy with the job. Even when we had a mid-job change of heart about the color, they had no problem leaving our job for a few days and returning after we made our final decision. I was nervous that they'd charge us extra for the hiatus, but they said it was no problem. Also, they knocked out a phone line. When I told them about it, they said, "no problem," and deducted -- without even asking to see the Verizon bill -- the amount we said it cost to have it restored.
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Meandtheboys
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Username: Meandtheboys

Post Number: 2748
Registered: 12-2004


Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 7:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it's safe to say that Kevin didn't build his business from scratch by doing a crappy job and not being concerned about customer satisfaction.
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 225
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sometimes they will tint the primer pink or the final color, looking like they didn't put a primer coat on. Otherwise, paint might peel by the first winter.
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Jersey Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy

Post Number: 50
Registered: 1-2006


Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 1:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I watched Rutgers do our neighbor's house. They pulled off trim in some paneled sections to clean up and replaced it. There was a wood pattern -- a lattice with a round top, that was completely replaced. The house looks great, it's a pleasure to see it through my window.

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