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Dan Fisher
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Username: Nytriton

Post Number: 5
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We moved into a new home recently in Maplewood and the basement is a real mess. It has a plaster ceiling that is falling down in multiple spots. We are going to do major renovation work on the kitch and bathrooms in 18 months and following that I'll finish the basement. In the mean time I'm planning on just taking down the entire plaster celing, lath boards and everything, in order to make it livable for the family. One section of the basement already has enough plaster fallen off that you can see that it will look pretty nice when the plaster is gone.
My plan is to seal off the rest of the house and hire 2 day laborers to work with me one day to bring down the entire ceiling section by section. Between hammering the plaster and sawing the lath boards It shouldn't be a problem getting everything down. I'll need to rent a small dumpster to get rid of all the plaster, and purchase and provide appropriate protection for myself and the other workers.
Any advice you have on this undertaking would be much appreciated.
Does anyone know how one goes about hiring day laborers in this area. When I lived in Callifornia there was an area where you could drive by and ask a group of manual laborers if they'd like to come with you to work on a project, and then negotiate a fair wage.

Please let me know if you have any good recommendations on where to get a dumpster and the necessary permits that I'm assuming one must have for using a dumpster.

Thanks.
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monster
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Post Number: 2230
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

shoot, i just opened my windows, put up plastic sheets around entrances, put down a tarp from wall to wall, pointed a fan out the windows, wore glasses and a mask, then I went to town with a hammer.
Besides cleanup I was done in a few hours time, if you talk (offer $$) to the garbage men they will probably help you dispose of the remnants, I found a snow shovel worked great for scooping up all that plaster and putting it into those large tupperware bins, and the garbage men were cheaper than renting a dumpster.
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Dan Fisher
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Username: Nytriton

Post Number: 6
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 7:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Monster. That would be a cheaper way to go. I wasn't sure if the garbage men would cart away that much rubble. How much does one need to pay the garbage men for such a service?

Anyone have a wheel barrel I can borrow?

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Dogbert
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 1-2006


Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 7:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just be clear that your arrangement with the garbagemen is under the table. They aren't supposed to take away construction materials. Officially you should call South Orange Disposal I think. I suppose if you had something to haul it in you could bring it to a dump, but I don't know where they are around here.
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jolynn
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 7:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it your entire basement? If so, it is going to be a lot of rubble. I would suggest renting a dumpster. I don't think the garbage men will take it away all at once. You can get a 10 yard dumster for $350.

We did this same job and it took two men 3 days to take it down, mainly because all of our pipes were running under the plaster and you had to cut around them first. Expect it to be messy. Think 80 years of dust that has fallen through the cracks from the first floor. It is also very heavy and so you can't haul a lot up the stairs at once.

It is a huge job but it feels great once it is done.
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eab
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scotland Road at Orange Road in Orange has day laborers. Just follow Scotland out, they will be on the left about 5 lights farther.
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Pdg
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Post Number: 542
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rather than rip it down, we put sheet rock up over it. With two little kids, we really didn't want all that dusty mess - even putting in high-hat lights in our LR created an incredible amount of plaster dust.

Good luck if you do it - I think there is a ventilation system you might be able to hook up to a basement window to suck a lot of the dust outside.
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Dan Fisher
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Username: Nytriton

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Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 5:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for all the great suggestions and information. It's a pretty large basement and so I think the Dumpster is the way to go. Any recommendations on dumpster companies would be welcomed.

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