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suburbanguy
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Username: Suburbanguy

Post Number: 17
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone have experience with those "new fangled" gutters that supposedly keep leaves and debris out? Do they really work or is it just a gimmick?

There are many varieties of these newer designs -- can anyone suggest one they're happy/unhappy with, as well as an installer.
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Arnold
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Username: Window_doctor

Post Number: 10
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 2:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Most are a gimmick, but Master Shield seems to be the real deal....
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darrensager
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Username: Darrensager

Post Number: 347
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 2:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All those new fangled designs are really not new. They've just created new ways to hold an old design to your home. The systems that they're selling today are the same ones that existed a hundred years ago. They couldn't keep a gutter clean then. They still can't today.

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darrensager
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Username: Darrensager

Post Number: 348
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 3:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I investigated gutter guards and full replacement systems for 7 years before getting into this industry. Any system that's being sold with a "When it clogs we'll clean it" is a product that is destined to still clog. Hence the reason for the service contract for it. Most companies when selling their product try to focus your attention not on the fact they're offering you the same product as the next guy, but on things that are not important to keeping your gutter clean such as the colors they offer, the strength of their hanging brackets, the thickness of their aluminum, etc.

When looking at these system and you've got the sales person in your home, do a very simple test: Go outside your home and collect some of the debris around it (leaves, seed pods, pine needles, etc.) Soak them in some water before the guy gets there. What you want to do is simulate what happens around your home when its raining. Run water over the display model in your sink. Sprinkle the debris onto the model while the water is running and watch it get pulled around the curve and sucked into the gutter. Most sales guys won't allow you to do this because you'll demonstrate how their product fails to the very job you want it to, EVERY TIME IT RAINS! Yes, when you want your gutter most of all, the product you just installed fails to work effectively at keeping the debris out.


Now a plug for our system, MasterShield

www.mastershield.com

The product we manufacture offers a full money back warranty if your gutter ever clogs. We did more than 5 years of testing the system has not allowed one clog with more than 2 million feet installed on homes nationwide. We feel the best way to separate liquids from solids is by using a filter. We engineered a surgical grade stainless steel filtration system that only allows water into a gutter. Nothing else.



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MaplePapa
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Username: Maplepapa

Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 9:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I installed LeafGuard gutters two years ago and they've been great so far. They have a warranty never to clog. Not cheap, but one less headache. My next door neighbors just got them put on too. One problem with them is that when the snow melts, huge icicles form over the top and hang down. But it's better than having the ice back up under the eves and cause all sorts of otehr troubles.

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