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Jgberkeley
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Username: Jgberkeley

Post Number: 4468
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, March 5, 2006 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone noticed Honeywell thermocouples not lasting very long.

One house, installed new unit 11/26/05, had to replace it again 3/4/06.

Another house, installed a new unit 12/15/04, had to replace it again 2/2/06.

This season I have replaced 11 other thermocouples that I do not know the original installation date.

Both of the known units were Honewell 300 MV universal replacements, both toast.

Anyone else?
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Master Plvmber
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Post Number: 494
Registered: 3-2003


Posted on Sunday, March 5, 2006 - 7:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would say those are powerpile milivolt generators and not standard thermocouples you're describing.

Make sure they are not receiving too much of the flame. They can and do burn out.


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Dennis J O'Neill
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Username: Plungy

Post Number: 7
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 5, 2006 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, lots of thermocouples this season and alot of weird low gas pressure problems. We've started to also replace the pilot burner along with the thermocouple on the advice of one of our suppliers and that seems to have eliminated most of the repeat pilot outages.
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Jgberkeley
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Post Number: 4471
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 4:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, yes to millivolt generators and not standard thermocouple. To most folks they are just one-and-the-same.

Too much flame. Yes the flame did look a mite strong on this unit. I removed the cap screw on the gas valve and then attempted to adjust the pilot flame, however, full turns in each direction did not (effect or affect) the pilot flame.

Rather than a new gas valve, can I just bend the unit to move the milivolt generator out of the bulk of the flame?
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Master Plvmber
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Post Number: 495
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Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 8:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes.



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ReallyTrying
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Post Number: 707
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Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What the heck is a thermocouple?

There are a lot of potential plays on that word.
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Jgberkeley
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Post Number: 4472
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 8:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I is a metal bulb or tube that sits in the pilot flame of a boiler, hot water heater or even your oven. Any gas device that has a piot light.

It senses the heat of the pilot light and allow the gas valve to open when needed to fire the unit. If it does not sense the flame or is broken, the pilot light gas will go off and the main gas valve can not open.

Two types.

First is the unit that just senses the heat and sends the message to the gas control valve. Rather simple. In boiler systems they work with 24 volt control systems.

The other type generates a small amount of voltage (milivolts) and that energy is used to run the control systems and thermostat.

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