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wunderdog
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Username: Wunderdogny

Post Number: 72
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I ran a search on the site but didn't find any information on this. What is the best wood to use when building a deck? By "best" I mean servicable and ECONOMICAL? I know the plastic or composite boards are supposed to last a lifetime, but they're just out of my price range at the moment.
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Josh Holtz
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Username: Jholtz

Post Number: 329
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would just splurge for composite. The upkeep and warping of exposed natural wood (even treated wood) can be too much. You can be looking at staining more than you might like.
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darrensager
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Username: Darrensager

Post Number: 344
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

TIMBERSIL!!!!!

http://www.timbersil.com/

Simply incredible and not expensive!
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wunderdog
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Username: Wunderdogny

Post Number: 73
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 3:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

where is this product available? I checked the link and saw no retailers that sell the product.
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darrensager
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Username: Darrensager

Post Number: 349
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 3:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would try giving the toll free number on the website a call to find out.
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Bob K
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 10925
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 3:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darren, have you used Timbersil? We don't like the look of composite decking, find mahogony to damned expensive and I am worried about what the new ACQ pressure treated lumbers' corrosive properties do to fastners and joint hangers.
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darrensager
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Username: Darrensager

Post Number: 350
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 5:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I haven't Bob, sorry. I wish I could speak from experience about the product. I share your concerns regarding the corrosive nature of the ACQ pressure treated lumber. I think a lot of people are going to get hurt from decks falling apart with people on them because a number of installers never read the warning labels on the corrosive properties of the chemicals in the wood.

Regarding Timbersil, the only thing that I can relay back is the research that I've done investigating it. All the feedback on it has been very positive. The first place I read about it was This Old House magazine. The life expectancy is far greater than pressure treated lumber and from a safety standpoint it's great. No need to wear gloves when working with it. Its almost fire proof from what I understand, as it won't hold a flame unless its heated to a few thousand degrees! From a cost standpoint it should be inline with pressure treated because that is what it was developed to compete against.

I tried calling the company this afternoon but all their operators were busy. I'll do my best to try again tomorrow and see if there are any distributors in the area.

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wunderdog
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Username: Wunderdogny

Post Number: 74
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 9:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

darren - I'm anxious to hear what you find out, it sounds interesting
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Rick B
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Username: Ruck1977

Post Number: 1015
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if your not too worried about "pressure treated lumbers' corrosive properties do to fastners and joint hangers"...

get some pressure treated white pine and seal it. looks great.

that is low end and easy to work with. i am pretty sure everything else will be more expensive, but again, you save yourself time by not having to maintain it as meticulously (if at all)

give a call over to Jaeger Lumber in Union.
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darrensager
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Username: Darrensager

Post Number: 351
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I tried TimberSil again, same result. Maybe they're all out to lunch...

I'll try again.
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darrensager
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Username: Darrensager

Post Number: 352
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 1:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got a hold of TimberSil. The product should be available in our market April/May. It may not go into large Home Improvement centers right away so check in other lumber yards. The guy on the phone said they've been overloaded with the response to the product. It may get here a bit sooner, however he didn't want to make any promises he couldn't keep. He said check back on the website as they will update the distribution network soon.

I guess that's not that long to wait for a good product.

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Dave
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 8874
Registered: 4-1997


Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 3:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.woodweb.com/
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george H
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Username: Georgieboy

Post Number: 146
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 4:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Re corrosive properties of P.T.wood.No matter what you choose for the decking,the framing is still gonna be ACQ.You can use stainless steel fasteners and joist hangers and if you want to take it a step further,use the s.s. that is rated for saltwater applications.Granted,this can be an expensive proposition,but given the amt.of time framing should last,its definitly money well spent.Also a good idea is to use Vycor self-stick membrane on top of all framing members and across the ledger board,which by the way,should be designed with a drainage plane in mind.

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