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Eire
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Username: Eire

Post Number: 129
Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 1:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,
Does this make sense to anyone? We have a VERY small bathroom, but it's the one we use the most. We moved in to a renovated place, walls, ceilings, etc in good shape and freshly painted (no kind of gloss in bathroom, which may be part of the problem) We had a ceiling exhaust fan installed b/c we knew it would get steamy and it's a really small room.

So -- since we've moved in, the bathroom ceiling is cracking and peeling - water from the shower seems to form on the ceiling, whether the exhaust is on or not (and I checked to see if it works - it does - it's not too strong, though)... There are water stains on the ceiling,and ceiling paint is cracking in a few places, not just over the shower...

Could this just be because it's not the right paint? I know it would probably be better if there was tile all the way up to the ceiling, but there isn't...

Any suggestions? I'm going to sand and spackle and put up a mildew-resistant paint in a few weeks, unless anyone thinks something else is going on.

btw,this bathroom is right under the crawl space, which did get a little leak when it rained really hard, but not enough to cause all this...

thanks...
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jab
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Username: Jab

Post Number: 534
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 2:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have the same problem, but have not installed a fan yet. Somebody who looked at it for us thinks the problem may have resulted from residual wallpaper glue on the ceiling that was not sanded down (yes, there was wallpaper on the ceiling). The paint is also peeling off of the walls, but not as badly.
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Eire
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Username: Eire

Post Number: 131
Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 2:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the fan seems to have done nothing for us... this is all happening with a fan...
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 442
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 3:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1. No such thing as a little leak that didn't cause problems. YOu'd be very surprised how much water can damage a paint job, especially from the inside/-out.

2. HOWEVER....my inclination is to think that this was painted with the wrong paint and primer (ie one not suitable for the bathroom)....get a top quality primer and paint, and makre sure it's LATEX, don't use the alkyde versions of paint (Latex is better at mildew resistance). Probably going to be a semi-gloss like finish. Use Sherwin William's top-line, or Benjamin Moore. Scrape as much as you possibly can off of the wall before priming the surface.
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Bob K
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Post Number: 10924
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 3:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Zinser makes a mildew resitant semi-gloss paint that we used in our bathrooms. We don't have fans and we never had a problem and our son is a fan of half hour showers that raise the humidity level in the bathroom to tropical levels.

It comes in white, but I believe it can be tinted if that is your thing.
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Jason
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Username: Jason

Post Number: 69
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 4:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We used a mildew inhibiting paint additive when we redecorated our upstairs bathroom last year.

One question - regarding your bathroom fan - it is properly vented to the outside, isn't it? I just saw an 'Ask This Old House' the other day where the couple's electrician had just vented the fan into the attic! Unsurprisingly they were having serious damp ceiling issues in other rooms on the same floor.
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Pdg
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Username: Pdg

Post Number: 624
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 4:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I read your original post, I also was going to ask the same question as Jason - I would bet you aren't properly vented. Even if it isn't vented into your attic, it might just be vented into the void between the ceiling and the floor above Good luck!
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Eire
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Username: Eire

Post Number: 132
Registered: 7-2005
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 7:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks all - actually it is vented to the outside - we learned the hard way about a fan venting into the attic of our last house, which ended up with a tiny bit of mold that cost $3K to have remediated. So, yes, it's vented correctly. As I said, not the strongest fan == I think (i hope) it is the paint job. I'll let you know. thanks again!
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 446
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 9:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

by the way, when you scrape the paint off, report back what the condition of the drywall/plaster behind it is in. If it's a mess, than it's likely you are having water damage from behind the material, and the problem is not your paint. If it's in good shape, than you know the problem was your paint.
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mark halliday
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Username: Markhalliday

Post Number: 14
Registered: 11-2005


Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if you are handy, there is no leak and its not a big room why not just go right to green sheetrock on the ceiling? It would be a real drag to scrape, patch and sand and not have it bond correctly or just not be smooth.

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