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calypso
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Username: Calypso

Post Number: 12
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 9:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd like to build a small pond/water garden/fountain thing in my backyard, but heard that they are illegal in Maplewood due to safety concerns. Is this true? And how do you get the electricity out to the pump? Do you need a new outlet? Is burying the cable complex? In short, has anyone out there done this and wants to share advice?
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argon_smythe
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Post Number: 816
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are solar powered pumps for fountains, much easier than running 220V out to a water feature.
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 2271
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 8:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wild guess here, I think if there was an ordinance about backyard pond it would be for a Fish Pond (Those need to be at least 3 feet deep) but a plant pond can be much more shallow.

When we put in a pond we got the solar powered pumps but buried a wire two years later because we found we needed to power other things near the pond (Lights, Radio, etc). I may be worth it to do it all in the beginning.
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Earlster
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Post Number: 1522
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Be aware that they might be quite the breeding haven for all kinds of bugs.
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jersey Boy
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Post Number: 497
Registered: 1-2006


Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just put in a birdbath fountain that is solar powered. If you walk in front of it it stops and same if a cloud goes over, and at night. It's never on.

Splurge for real power if you want to hear burbling water (which will also deter bugs more than still water.)

J.B.
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greenetree
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Post Number: 7237
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We put in a dry pond last year (filled with rocks and two fountains that recirculate).

It's very pretty, but now we have a probelm with bird . The birds like to hang out by the pond & drink from the fountains. Since the pond is beside the deck, well, use your imagination.

When we built the deck, we put in lots of outlets, so it was easy to plug in the fountains.

Hmmm. I was wondering how to keep the birds away from the pond this year. Maybe a real bird bath on the other side of the yard? What are those like to maintain? If you change it frequently, do you still have mosquito problems?
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tabby
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Username: Tabby

Post Number: 265
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have a pond in our backyard. It and several others in MPL/SO were profiled in Maplewood Matters a couple of years ago.

You are welcome to come see our pond. We decided not to have fish because that would be alot of extra work. There are some really awesome ponds in our area.

Please Private Line to me.

Tabby
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LilLB
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Post Number: 1505
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 1:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have a regular ol birdbath Greentree, and I just make point to dump the water and refill about every week or so to keep any mosquito issue at bay.
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Jgberkeley
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Username: Jgberkeley

Post Number: 4534
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 2:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ponds, when I lived in California I installed and serviced them.

Correctly designed, they do not need pumps. A balance of fish, plants, sun and weather they will run without pumps.

That said, a pump and moving water solves many problems and will allow you more freedom in what you put into it. Simple 110 Volt GFIC outlet is all you need in the area.

Bugs, bunk. Correctly installed, the slight movement of water and the fish will solve that. In fact, the pond can become the bug trap and draw bugs away from the house, to the water where the hungry fish eat them.

If this will be a winter over pond, you will need an area 3.5 to 4 feet deep or a heater so that the fish will have a place to winter over.

Local building codes will need to be followed regarding fencing for your pond yard.

Later,
George
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upondaroof
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Username: Upondaroof

Post Number: 621
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 6:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"If this will be a winter over pond, you will need an area 3.5 to 4 feet deep or a heater so that the fish will have a place to winter over."

Not really. As long as you circulate the water, and allow it to splash back in, the pond will not freeze. I've never had a freeze up no matter how severe the winter and my depth is 24" max, and circulation is much cheaper than a heater. One word of caution if it should freeze over, never try to break the ice by hitting it. The concussion can kill the fish.
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kap
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Username: Kap

Post Number: 248
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The second annual Maplewood/South Orange Pond Tour will be held on Sunday, June 25. Last year's was a blast! Any pond keeper (or wannabes) interested please send an e-mail to pondtour@comcast.net and I'll get the information to you.

kap

P.S. Ponds are not illegal in Maplewood. Calypso, drop me a private line if you'd like some responses to your questions as well as the best local places for supplys and professional advice.

tabby, hope you and the hubby will be able to join us this year!

jg, you only need a depth of about 18 inches for wintering over a pond with livestock in NJ. A heater is a good idea, however, just to keep the gases from building up under surface ice.

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