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cwalk
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Username: Cwalk
Post Number: 66
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 2:40 pm: | 
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My husband and I are trying to put up crown moulding in our bathroom. We did a chair rail in our son's room, and it wasn't perfect but seemed much easer than this (probably because of the height) Of course it is very unlikely that we would have even one perfectly square corner, so rather than continue guessing and cutting, guessing and cutting, does anyone know a way you can somehow measure the angle in order to make the right cuts?
It doesn't have to be perfect because we'll use wood putty and paint but jeepers we can't seem to even get close to getting the corners properly aligned!!!
P.S. We both flunked math!!! |
george H
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Username: Georgieboy
Post Number: 180
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 3:21 pm: |
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The angle should'nt matter if your coping the joints,which is the correct way to put up crown.If your mitering the joints,get an angle finder,determine the angle and divide it in half.This can be easier said than done,as other factors come into play.Is the ceiling-wall intersection a true 90 degrees?Coping also helps in situations that are prone to movement,such as bathrms.,with the obvious moisture conditions. |
cwalk
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Username: Cwalk
Post Number: 71
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 10:01 pm: |
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1. I have no idea what an angle finder is.
2. Our home was built in the 30's so no, I don't think a true 90degree angle exists
3. What is coping? (LOL I just read that back to myself)please tell me its something that somehow covers up the crappy job we will do at the corners?
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Jersey Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 653
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 10:21 pm: |
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I did fake wainscotting in a basement and I obsessed about the joints. During that time I Iooked at all the moulding in every house we went to and there were mistakes.
When I was done, I relaxed and NO ONE noticed stuff that I thought was terribly missaligned.
Do your best, then puddy in the mistakes, then move on.
I forgive you.
J.B. |
TomR
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Username: Tomr
Post Number: 1074
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 12:10 am: |
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cwalk,
An angle finder looks kind of like a jack knife, but doesn't have a sharp blade. You place the base against one wall at the corner you want to measure, place the "blade" against the adjacent wall and then measure the angle formed by the base and the "blade".
As George wrote coping the joint is the better and easier way to go.
I don't think I can explain what coping is, but you should be able to get a clear explanation at most DIY home improvement sites. Try this one:
http://www.rd.com/content/openContent.do?contentId=17891
Its not difficult, and if, after reading a cogent explanation, you want to try, I have a coping saw you can borrow.
TomR |
Sherri De Rose
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Username: Honeydo
Post Number: 155
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 6:56 am: |
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Coping is after you cut the angle you slightly shave the back of the angled area off so that when the corners meet there is tight fit. It is a bit hard to describe but when you actually look at it it should be a bit clearer. |
Sherri De Rose
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Username: Honeydo
Post Number: 156
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 6:57 am: |
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Oh I forgot, there is a product out there now that is actually a corner piece that extends about 2 inches onto each flat piece and covers all the errors. |
peteglider
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Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1924
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 9:35 am: |
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If you go to Lowes -- they have many books by the moldings (I don't mean in front, near the lumber) -- in that section there are all sorts of measuring devices, in particular there is one company that puts out a book that also sells its own angle finder. You might find that helpful.
OR -- I recently got a catalog in the mail from one of those companies that sells shelves, etc. In the catalog was "STICK ON CROWN MOLDING" (yes, peel and stick, plastic!). The copy said something like "it's 8 foot high anyay, who will ever notice its not the regbular stuff"
If you google for videos "crown molding" "coping" you'll get a bunch of videos that will show you this. Basically you install, say, the right hand wall piece square into the wall (no miter cut). Then the left hand piece is *not* miter cut -- but the profile is cut out. This gives a much more precise fit between pieces. The trick is to figure out the angles! (and to have a darn steady hand).
Pete
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