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Melonious
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Post Number: 112
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Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it like a glass half full or half empty? Six of one, etc.?
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Walt21012
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Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They are really the same thing -- the plant should have at least a few hours of direct sun during the day, and shade the rest of the day. Preferably, the plant is protected from the hot afternoon sun.

There are many great plants that can work in a partial shade/sun condition:
Hostas

Astilbes

Redbud

Hakonechloa (Japanese forest grass)

Rhododendrons

Ferns
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greenetree
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Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of astilbes, my friend's landscaper put several astilbe on the west, sunniest side of her yard last September. I think that they should be moved, but then, he's a landscaper.

Don't suggest calling him to ask; it ended badly between them.

So, am I missing something? Can they actually survive and thrive in direct afternoon sun? I never thought so.....
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Elizabeth
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Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 2:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

astilbe in the west sun? is the area particularly moist? Or was he hoping for more work in 3-5 years?
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Elizabeth
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Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 2:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

as for the original question, I believe the general rule is: full sun is at least 6 hours a day, part sun is 4 - 6 hours direct sun, part shade is 2 - 4 hours direct sun and shade is anything less than 2 hours direct sun per day.
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Jersey_Boy
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Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 9:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My observation is that successful gardeners fall into two types.

One who plants things in the right area and they thrive easily.

The other who plants things whereever and tends to them to help them thrive with loving care.

Planting a sun lover in the shade won't work, but planting a shade plant in the sun will require much more watering than planting the same shade loving plant in the proper place but I think it can survive.

This is the difference between the partial sun and partial shade. Elizabeth will take the time to know how many hours of sun and area gets and plant appropriately.

I will plant stupidly and water the thing into good health.

J.B.
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greenetree
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Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I straddle the two worlds. But astilbe like lots of water and shade. So, I'm thinking that I should move her plants.
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justmelaura
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Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 1:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greenetree

My front garden is basically 100% full sun and I have about 10 Astilbes. They have grown very nicely. Because I like to keep the front as a cutting garden, I will probably move them to my shade garden if I ever get it really kicking. My backyard is about 80% sun and the astibles back there are very happy. From what I see, they are very happy in full sun, but because of their color, I would prefer them in a shade garden.

Also, all of my beds are very composted, enriched, a bit mulched. I am trying to grow as much sedum ground cover to keep from drying out. Also, it is great weed control and spreads like weeds.

Sorry we haven't had a time to sit and talk and walk and light a torch or too. Please come by again and take some more things when I am not so hectic.

JustMePlanting
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bklyntonj
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Post Number: 723
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 8:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Partial Sun means you have more shade than sun. Partial shade means you have more sun than shade.

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