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nywednesday
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 9:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone added a gas line for a gas fire? If so who did they use? Is it a major project? Permits needed etc.

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greenetree
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Post Number: 8118
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes. Plumber. Don't know. It was part of a larger project, so we had permits anyway.
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Monster©
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you can have mine, I never use it, and as far as I can tell it's been capped since it was put in, it's not even in a real fireplace.
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Bob K
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Post Number: 11878
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is work for a plumber. I am assuming that you are putting in a direct vent gas fireplace and I imagine the Town or Village would want to inspect it, but I am not sure. I suggest you call Town (or Village) hall.

Personally, I would be hesitant to use one of the non-vented old fireplaces you see in some older houses around here. I would also be hesitant to use a non-vented new zero clearance unit.

If the location is near an existing gas line and over a basement with an unfinished ceiling it should only be a couple of hours work for a plumber.
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greenetree
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Post Number: 8125
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob raises a good point. The town inspected the vent system in a new gas unit installation. They probably would require inspection on a conversion as well.
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pangurbrown
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 1:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We did this. South Orange requires a permit and a plumber does the work. There are a number of contractors one can find from the places that seel the units that will install without a permit (and who are not plumbers), but we didn't feel comfortable going that route.

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TomD
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Post Number: 473
Registered: 5-2005


Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The fireplace store in Summit sent an installer (he isn't an employee, but he's the installer they regularly use) who connected the (previously capped) gas line to our fireplace. We also purchased our gas log kit from them.

It lacks some of the charm of a wood fire (the smell, the crackling), but I love it. Instant fire. It's warm and it looks great. I loved being able to turn on the fireplace whenever I wanted for however long I wanted this past winter.

The installation took little more than an hour.
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Klg
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 6:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had one done recently by the HVAC guy. They just run a line flexible line up the clean-out chute into the fire place. There was an issue about whether you need a separate cut off upstairs. Apparently, it's not required by code but you may want one installed.

South Orange requires a permit to blow your nose.
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greenetree
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Post Number: 8145
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maplewood specifies what kind of tissue you use and will issue a halt-work order if the snot is the wrong color.
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 799
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have one and we wish we didn't now....make sure it's absolutely what you want.
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Bob K
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Post Number: 11891
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 8:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Somehow I have my doubts that running a flexible connector through a cleanout meets code and I am sure that the code requires a shutoff at the appliance location and my recollection is that the flexible connector can't be run through walls.

It appears that a few of you are using the unvented gas fireplaces I mentioned in my earlier post. If you are, please remember to crack a window and keep a carbon monoxide tester in the room.



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Smarty Jones
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Post Number: 806
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 9:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of which, does anyone know the cost of, and whom we can pay to have ours removed and returned to wood burning fire place?

The prior homeowner thought running gas lines everywhere was really neat (outside, inside, you name it). I want them all removed, as I'm comfortable and prefer using Propane/Charcoal for the grill, and Wood for the fireplace....

Also not sure it's done properly, as they used COPPER pipes, and the twisting and winding pipes look like something from Dr. Seuss book.
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greenetree
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Post Number: 8148
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 9:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Before you return to wood, check out the code requirements. My neighbors put in a new wood-burning FP and have gone thru hell with the Town. You usually have to bring any change up to current code. There are weird rules about these things.

We put a gas FP in the kitchen when we remodeled & I love it. It heats the room quite nicely; we probably didn't need to install heat in that room. I'd love to convert the living room FP back to wood (was there when we moved in) but we rarely use that room except for parties. It would be the best of both worlds to have one of each, tho.

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