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Hamandeggs
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Post Number: 339
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 2:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If they weren't right where we sit and kids play, it might be another story. How can I get rid of them without killing them or using a lot of chemicals? If it can't be done without some kind of a body count, is there a way to get rid of them without a lot of chemicals? Any thoughts?
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themp
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Post Number: 3093
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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 2:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bees? I think only a few solitary bees nest in the ground. Are they hornets?
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Jgberkeley
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Post Number: 4599
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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 5:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What type of bees?

Honey, wasps, hornets?

It makes a difference.
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Politicalmon
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Post Number: 210
Registered: 9-2005


Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 6:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dealt with a yellow Jacket nest which appeared overnight in our front yard last year. I originally attempted to pour gasoline into the entrance hole at night but they were still active the next day. Therefore went to home cheapo and purchased a high concentrate insecticide and did the same procedure the following night, yellow jackets & small circle of lawn were eradicated. I've used the gasoline method in the pass with success I'm sure the pathway into the ground played a role in the success rate.
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tjohn
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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 6:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I unconditionally favor "trap and relocate" over any other option. This takes some discipline and patience with a yellow jacket nest, but it does work.

However, if you are less principled than I am, you can go out after sunset with RAID wasp killer and spray it into the hole.
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Jgberkeley
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Post Number: 4600
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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 9:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ahhh, yellow jackets do not nest in the ground.

They are paper wasps, and build paper upside cone celled nests, mostly hanging from house eves, tree branches or other high places.

Not to be picky, but, you gassed and then killed someting else, likely a hornet.
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tjohn
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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 9:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, yellow jackets commonly nest in holes in the ground. It varies by subspecies of yellow jacket.

http://www.masterbeekeeper.org/stinging/groundyellowjacket.htm
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Ibeme
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 9:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is a not-so-great picture of what we're dealing with:

Bee/Wasp Picture
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Politicalmon
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Post Number: 214
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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 9:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They were definitly yellow jackets and not hornets - I can distingish the difference.
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Walt21012
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 4:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I HIGHLY recommend AGAINST attempting to move the nest, as the WASPS are VERY DANGEROUS, and do not take kindly to any disturbances.

I accidentally came upon a nest they had constructed in a forgotten pile of sod in my backyard. I discovered the nest while picking up a small patch of sod, and was immediately attacked and suffered 7 or 8 wasp bites on my legs. (Thankfully, I am not allergic.)

Get some pesticide designed for wasps and yellow jackets and kill them. As much as I like nature's creatures, I like my family better. The only time to attempt this eradication procedure is in the evening when they are resting and not active.
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Lizziecat
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Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 8:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We had the same problem. We called an exterminator--we use Terminite. The guy came yesterday, and put on his protective bee suit, including headgear. He told me to stay in the house. He got down with a flashlight and a probe to see how deep the nest went, and I could see the yellowjackets swarming around him and trying to sting him. He pumped a lot of powder, which, he said, kills on contact, into the nest. By evening there was no longer any sign of yellowjackets. They were dead, gone, zapped. Don't try to do it youself. It's too dangerous, and not effective.
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Erik van de Pol
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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wasps release a chemical 'alarm signal' when they are in distress, when they sting or when they are crushed. This alarm signal alerts other wasps from the nest to attack...

Don't experiment with nests if you're not sure what to do. Get a professional instead (we use Terminix).
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tjohn
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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yellow jackets, bees and wasps are inactive at night. You can safely approach the nest and deliver a lethal dose of Raid wasp nerve gas.
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lamojo
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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I highly recommend Buckingham Pest Control here in Maplewood - Jerry always comes immediately and has taken care of several nests - both wasps & bees for me. I too have small kids and don't want to mess around trying to do it myself.
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tjohn
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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For those who would rather buy a five dollar can of Raid than spend $60 or more on a professional...

Bees and wasps are inactive a night. You can safely approach their nest and apply a lethal dose of Raid wasp and hornet killer. In direct contact, it kills insects in less than one minute.
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swimmer
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 9:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We had the same problem, discovered when we cut the grass covering the hole. OUCH! That was a painful day as husband and son were bitten madly. A friend gave me terrific advice... make a mud pile and, at night (when insects are in the hole, chilling), cover the hole (well) with mud. The next day, the insects inside (whatever they really are) will not see the sun, will think it is night, and will sty inside until they simply perish.

No pesiticide to deal with, no gasoline, friendly to the environment, best of all - free!

It worked for me
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greenetree
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Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I went the Jerry route. Called him Monday at 10a for my hornets nest & it was gone by 11a. It took a couple more days for all the homeless hornets to die off.

$53, including tax.

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