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shoshannah
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Username: Shoshannah

Post Number: 1330
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 4:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We need to renovate a bathroom and will need to submit drawings to the town to get a permit. What's the best route? Designer? Architect? Do I need these professionals at all? If I "design" it myself, how do I get drawings done?
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree

Post Number: 8692
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 4:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you moving structural things and plumbing around?

We only needed an engineering drawing for a support wall we removed when we did kitche/bathroom. The rest was just floor plan and elevations with measurements included. I did our deck drawings myself.

As long as you know code and can incorporate it into the design (where outlets can be, how many, placement of toilet from wall, etc.) you can do the drawings yourself. Just include all measurements. The electrical plan I did was a copy of the floor plan and elevations with little marks where light fixtures, outlets, etc, would be.

Ask your plumber & electrician about code requirements.

Of course, there are many here who will suggest a designer or architect.
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shoshannah
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Username: Shoshannah

Post Number: 1332
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 4:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, that's the thing. I don't know if I'll be moving anything! If I do it myself, I might just want to move the toilet -- or maybe not move anything. If I get a designer, he/she may come up with a better design. It's a very small bathroom, and I am curious if a professional space planner can come up with any interesting ideas.
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Dennis J O'Neill
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Username: Plungy

Post Number: 64
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 4:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They just want a riser diagram of how the plumbing lines are going to be laid out and an electrical diagram of where the switches are going to be located. You are not doing anything structural so you don't need an arcitect.
Your plumber and your electrician can do these little drawings for you. They are no big deal.
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree

Post Number: 8696
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 4:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, the larger issue is that you don't know what you want to do. In which case, you may need a designer. Or, take a tour of small bathrooms; infringe on your friends with vision. See if you can come up with something. Then do the drawings or ask your pros, as Plungy suggests. If you can't come up with something that grabs your heart, get the designer.

We couldn't envision our kitchen, so we had a designer. But, we only got the layout and elevations (which we didn't actually need, but came with the price of the design). We took everything else from there. We'd spent months before that trying to figure out what we wanted to do & just couldn't make it work in our own heads.
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Pdg
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Username: Pdg

Post Number: 1081
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 5:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dont' do what we did, and forget where you'll put the little necessities, like TOWEL BARS! (duh)
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george H
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Username: Georgieboy

Post Number: 258
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 5:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you do a direct replacement,meaning keeping everything where it currently is,drawings are minimal.If, like most Maplewood homes,this is the original bathroom with the original water supplies,you're going to need to run new 3/4" water lines from the bsmt.If you decide to move the toilet,you must respect code in relation to the placement.[15" from center of toilet to any wall]You are also required to have an exhaust fan vented to the outside,although if you have a window in the room you can get away without it,though I don't know why anyone would take that shortcut.After all,who opens the windows in the winter.One more important note,don't forget to install blocking between studs,to support towel bars,soapdish,etc.,and don't forget a grab-bar in the tub/shower.
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JC
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Username: Demolitionman

Post Number: 35
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 8:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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