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Eire
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Username: Eire
Post Number: 253
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 10:13 am: | 
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We have granite countertops and a large, deep stainless sink I'm noticing more and more space between the countertop and the sink - it's definitely "sinking!" What to do?? I have no idea how this is all held together... is this a handyman thing?? |
george H
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Username: Georgieboy
Post Number: 283
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 10:34 am: |
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Look underneath the sink.You should see clips that screw into the underside of the granite.These thread into lead sheilds that are tapped into the granite.Is it possible that one of these is pulling out? There should have been a bead of caulking between the sink and the granite but depending on the size of the sink it might have dropped down a bit.Can you move the sink up at all? |
Bailey
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Username: Baileymac
Post Number: 398
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 5:48 pm: |
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If you're VERY handy, you can fix it yourself, but since you've posted here, I'd suggest you call a plumber and ask him to fix it.
As George said, there should have been a bead of silicon caulk between the sink and the granite. At this point, it's possible that the sink needs to be removed, recaulked and replaced, kind of a big job, as you have to disconnect and remove much of the undersink drain piping.
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doulamomma
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Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1664
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 8:41 pm: |
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This happened to us at our old house & we had to have the granite co. come back...it seems that the "fake contractor" (to borrow an idea from greentree, re. same contractor) had not put blocks under the heavy disposal for support & it was pulling the sink down, in spite of clips etc...
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Eire
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Username: Eire
Post Number: 258
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 1:10 pm: |
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OK - plumber just left - and said that I need to find someone who deals with granite, to secure the sink to the granite - it was barely secured at all, and was mostly secured with caulk - nice. I know I can't call the people who installed the granite, as they're the same contractors who hooked it up with caulk, and since they sold us the place, I don't want to contact them.
Does anyone know who/what I should call?? Thanks - the plumber says it's a safety issue at this point. |
Dennis J O'Neill
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Username: Plungy
Post Number: 69
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 1:50 pm: |
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I am a plumber and we are starting to see this problem more and more. The granite guys used to put brass anchors in the countertop to hold the sink in place as George says however now they seem to be using nothing but adhesive to do the job in many cases.
In one instance I was able to make sort of a trapeze out of Unistrut and threaded rod to mechanically and securly hold the sink in place. I then used clear silicone to make the seal between the sink and granite. This worked well and that sink was NEVER going anywhere.
Hard to say what the interior wood structure of your cabinet will allow in this regard.
It is difficult to get granite guys to come back for follow up problems like this. |
Eire
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Username: Eire
Post Number: 259
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 2:55 pm: |
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so who should I call?? I don't even know who the "granite guys" are!! |
oots
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Username: Oots
Post Number: 454
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 5:00 pm: |
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sounds like the big dig tunnel in boston!
oots |
george H
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Username: Georgieboy
Post Number: 295
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 5:14 pm: |
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Problem is that you'll be asking someone to not only work upside down to drill and tap in the anchors,but that same person will have to assume responsibility for any end result,and lets face it,I doubt you're willing to spend 500.00 or probably anywhere close to it to rectify the situation.Sorry to say but it seems that there is a lot more to lose than there to gain for a tradesman to come in at this point.I hope I'm wrong and that your sucessful in your quest. |
daylaborer
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Username: Upondaroof
Post Number: 876
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 7:17 pm: |
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"so who should I call?? I don't even know who the "granite guys" are!!"
Why not reach out to Dennis J O'Neill? |
compsy
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Username: Compsy
Post Number: 233
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 9:14 pm: |
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If you can't get anyone to work on it and are forced to do it yourself, I'd suggest re-caulking the connection and then simultaneously (that's the trick, obviously) wedging the sink upwards towards the granite with some kind of wood struts extending between the sink bottom and the floor of the cabinet under the sink. Clumsy but it will probably work if you use two or four of them. |
Eire
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Username: Eire
Post Number: 260
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 10:26 pm: |
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Daylaborer, a lot of people offer advice on this board, but I don't assume that all who offer advice are necessarily offering/willing to take a look... but thanks for the idea. |
doulamomma
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Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1682
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:51 am: |
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Eire,
Until I got the granite folks (I had hired them 2 yrs before) to come back (they protested, it was a fight, but they did eventually come back), I used the prop up method compsy mentions...mine was temporary, but if I were doing it for real, I might measure & then get pieces of rebar (sp?) cut to length. I would also wedge under the disposal (if you have one), as it weighs a lot. Then caulk.
Or I'd try to hire Dennis O'neil from above!
By the way, I tried other granite folks (& the "contractor" I'd used, who had messed some stuff up) - no one would touch it, as they didn't want responsibility for my granite if it cracked & I couldn't blame them. Also my cabinet/access was extremely tight, making it a tougher fix.
Good luck! |
daylaborer
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Username: Upondaroof
Post Number: 877
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 2:55 pm: |
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"Daylaborer, a lot of people offer advice on this board, but I don't assume that all who offer advice are necessarily offering/willing to take a look... but thanks for the idea."
True, you should never assume anything, but the man did state his occupation and a possible solution to your problem. He's also obviously a professional who adheres to the posting rules and doesn't give out his contact info unless asked. Certainly couldn't hurt to seek him out. (IMHO) |
Eire
Citizen
Username: Eire
Post Number: 266
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 8:25 am: |
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Well... all hail Dennis J O'Neill, from Right One Plumbing!! He fixed my sink in 30 minutse - looks like new!!! (one of the clamps was missing - the holes were in the granite - I think) I'd HIGHLY recommend him!! Thanks Dennis!! |
daylaborer
Citizen
Username: Upondaroof
Post Number: 879
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 9:13 am: |
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There ya go. |
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