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The Referee
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Username: Law_five

Post Number: 5
Registered: 6-2006


Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 2:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All:

Just moved into Maplewood recently. Like most, we are doing some work on the house.

We need to have the concrete floor removed and replaced in our second floor bathroom. Does anyone have a recommendation they would care to make? Or an experience to share?

The floor needs to be removed for plumbing repair and to fix a hole left by the previous owner after a poor shower repair.
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rimman
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Username: Rimman

Post Number: 17
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 4:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gateway plumbing 973-762-1000
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peteglider
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Username: Peteglider

Post Number: 2142
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 4:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gateway will do a bang up job on the plumbing, but they don't do floors!

John Clayton, who posts here, does demo. Sure you can find someone to lay a new floor for you, too.

/p
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The Referee
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Username: Law_five

Post Number: 6
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Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 4:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry, I should have been more detailed. We have had Gateway in for the plumbing estimate. We are looking someone to do the demo and repair of the concrete floor before new floor tile is placed.

Thanks for the previous responses.
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george H
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Username: Georgieboy

Post Number: 293
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 6:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You'll find the demo a big mess and very disruptive.Older bathrooms were done using a mortar bed technique which consists of strips of wood fastened on either side of the joists,then pcs.of wood across them to create a base to fill in with compacted cinders up flush with the top of the joists which are champhered on the top edge.On top of this you will find about 2"-2-1/2" of mortar which the tile are then set into.Obviously,you need to bring the level of the finished floor up to where it currently is to accomodate existing wall tile,thresholds,etc.This is usually done by sistering framing lumber alongside existing joists,working as level as possible,allowing for at a minimum,a layer of 3/4" ply,a layer of 1/2" cement board,then your tile.You are also,in all probability,going to disturb the curb of the shower which ,if it was done correctly,is going to be wire lathe [mesh]wrapped around framing lumber and mortared in.Very hard to work to mud jobs and sometimes one thing leads to another.Also,very hard to price something like this due to all the unknowns.I'm not trying to be mister gloom and doom,just thought I'd share some possibilities.
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JC
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Username: Demolitionman

Post Number: 46
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 9:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.claytondemo.biz/photo3_1.html
start to finish
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SO1969
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Username: Bklyn1969

Post Number: 363
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 9:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have a crack in our floor. I suspect it was due to leaking drain pipes in floor. We have had the bath re-plumbed (from below) and the drain pipe is no longer in use. However, we like the original floor tile and wall tile. It does not seem like the wall tile could withstand us tearing out the concrete floor.

Does anyone know of someone expert in fixing old tile who might be able to patch/repair the floor? It doesn't need to look perfect. I thought one approach might be to scrape off the tiles (pinwheel pattern) in the affected/cracked areas. Fill in cracks with something and retile those sections.
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george H
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Username: Georgieboy

Post Number: 298
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 9:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're right.More times than not,with a old mortar bed installation,its impossible to know how something like a simple repair will go.Could you pull up the floor without impacting the wall? Probably not.Could you pull up a specific area of a original mortar bed floor? I would venture to say definitly not.What ever you decide,you should have a worst case scenario gameplan,just in case.

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