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Weedy and overall pretty lousy lawnAngelaKmjc9-8-06  2:01 pm
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Jersey_Boy
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Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How often should I cut my lawn, and how short, to organically discourage weeds?
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greenetree
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Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hell if I know; we poison the out of ours.
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Oldstone
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Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 1:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

to organically discourage weed growth, the frequency of cutting depends on how fast and long the grass is growing. when it gets unbearably long, then you cut it. the longer it stays, the harder for weeds to grow. even when you cut it, you're supposed to leave it long.
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greenetree
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Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 1:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seriously, didn't someone say something about milky spore for beetles recently? What was that about?
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Oldstone
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Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

milky spore is for grubs.
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wunderdog
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Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I seeded my yard this summer (I was too late for spring seeding but thought I would give it a shot anyway). Some grass came up, but it remains quite spotty. Can I reseed in the Fall or do I have to wait til next Spring? If so, when is the best time in the Fall and how do I do it - do I have to aerate the dirt or can I just spread the seed and water the crap out of it?
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Bob K
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 5:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fall is the best time for growing grass. Starting now would be a good idea.

While a lot of people don't like them I am going to rent a dethatcher in the next week or two and then overseed. The dethatcher roughs up the soil so the seed has a better chance of taking root.

Some people don't like dethatchers because they feel it gives weeds a better chance of growing, although I think a nice preemergent lawn care product in the spring will take care of this.
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SOrising
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 9:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you use organic fertilizers, it's suppose to prevent thatch.
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AngelaK
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 7:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's thatch?
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AngelaK
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 7:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What does "overseed" exactly mean? What is the correct amount of seed for a given area?
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Bob K
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Posted on Friday, September 1, 2006 - 4:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thatch is a layer of dead organic matter. It builds up over time and prevents water and nutrients making it into the soil.

Overseeding is spreading seed on an existing lawn and is usually done after dethatching or using an aerator plug machine. The seed package tells you the correct amount to use, which is usually half the new lawn rate.
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SOrising
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Posted on Friday, September 1, 2006 - 7:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought thatch was dense roots that are too shallow, caused by too much of the wrong kind of fertilizer. You might be able to google it and read about it, Angela K. A layer of dead organic matter should decompose, as in compost in the making, no?
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Bob K
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Posted on Friday, September 1, 2006 - 7:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is the definition:

http://landscaping.about.com/cs/lazylandscaping/g/thatch.htm
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Melonious
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Posted on Monday, September 4, 2006 - 9:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have learned that the KEY to growing grass from seed is HAY. Lots and lots of it, to cover the newly seeded patches. Prevents birds from eating it all, keeps moisture and warmth in.

Also, water it EVERY DAY. Even if it is "supposed" to rain. Even if it rained the night before. Don't have to flood it, but make sure it is moist enough in the morning to stay moist all day, kwim.

Also, I've found that Scott's PatchMaster is not worth the effort. It's seed, fertilizer, and paper mulch (very fluffy) that is supposed to be one-step. The stuff is so fluffy you have to be careful it doesn't blow away, and they say you must NOT put down layers thicker than 1/4", AND you must water it TWICE a day for 7-14 days. I did all of this, plus all the dethatching and spot-composting, and got very skimpy results about a month later.

For less effort, handfulls of seed and generous hay-ing gets me seedlings in less than a week.

OK, that's my grass rant.
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wunderdog
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Posted on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 - 9:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

THANKS for the rant, Mel, I think I didn't water my lawn enough after I seeded it this summer. After all this rain we just had, it's really filled in, which tells me a lot.
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mjh
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Posted on Wednesday, September 6, 2006 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob K: Is a de-thatcher easier to use than an aerator? We once rented an aerator from HD...........and let me tell you, that was a giant PIA. Even my 6'1" 200 lb husband could barely maintain control over that monster machine. I couldn't manage it at all.

I wish I had a video of him getting pulled around the back yard by it.
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Bob K
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Posted on Wednesday, September 6, 2006 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A power rake, dethatcher, is lighter than an aerator and I haven't had a problem using one.

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