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Boozy the Clown
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Username: Boozy

Post Number: 27
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 1:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Certainteed? Anderson? Pella? American Jewel?

All vinyl? Wood/Vinyl? All wood?

True divided? Encased muttons? Snap-in?

So many choices for the deep wallet, but the money tree hasn't started to bud. Does anyone have opinions about these products?
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Sylad
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Username: Sylad

Post Number: 274
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 2:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is my suggestion:

http://www.andersenwindows.com/UE/ProductGuide/Residential/400woodwrightOverview .asp

We redid our kitchen and replaced our 6 over 1 double hung with these. They are not cheap, but you can spend much much more.

Options include wooden grilles that you secure to the inside of the window. The grilles do not go between the glass. You can also get the grilles that go between teh glass, but these are not as nice.

We love them and everyone that has seen them thinks they look great. From the inside you can't tell they are not true divided light, from the outside because they do not have storms, just a full size screen, they look different. We only have 4 windows, they are on the back and side of our house and are not close to the original windows so it is not an issue.
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compsy
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Username: Compsy

Post Number: 120
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 2:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's a huge, contentious, but also informative thread on this somewhere else on the board...check out soapbox via search for "vinyl windows"
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Boozy the Clown
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Username: Boozy

Post Number: 28
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 3:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i'm trying to stay away from that thread, thanks.
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Michael K. Mc Kell
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Username: Greenerose

Post Number: 200
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 5:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pella replacement windows are a nice product.
I personally like true divided light but not the price.
Pella makes a nice replacement with simulated divided lights in wood.
Anderson dosen't make a replacement window.
If your going to go with "new construction" windows you have a better choice. With replacements you'll be in the vinyl zone.
Good luck.
Michael K. Mc Kell
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Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn

Post Number: 130
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 9:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My architect likes Marvin true (very expensive) and simulated (pretty expensive) wood divided light. My contractor recommends the Anderson 400 series (simulated divided light - not snap in) vinyl. (both are wood inside). My contractor isn't crazy about Pella, says they take out more than they put in. Mainly sealing issues I think. I'm still trying to make a decision for my addition.

I think what you do depends on tons of factors, some of which are:
- Look of your house
- Look of the current windows, are you trying to match, be different, don't care?
- Maint of windows...would you ever want to paint the exterior a diff color? Do you not want to ever paint them?
- Price

Pella has a nice showroom in SH to see different styles of windows. Jaeger in Union has a few as well.

Good luck!
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bobk
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 4769
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 9:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I read somewhere that Anderson is now in the custom size window business like Pella and Marvin. I don't know if they are making the replacements that Pella seems to make a lot of.
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Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn

Post Number: 131
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 10:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can someone explain the physical diff between replacement and new construction windows?
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bobk
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 4775
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 11:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Replacement windows fit in the existing opening after removing the sash, the parting strip and the stops. Most of the installation is done from the inside and the window trim, both interior and exterior isn't removed.

New construction windows require that the entire window unit be removed. This requires that the interior trim (as often as not chestnut here) and the exterior trim be removed and replaced.

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Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn

Post Number: 132
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 11:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks!
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Boozy the Clown
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Username: Boozy

Post Number: 29
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Pella replacement windows run between $500-550 per window. It gets quite pricey when we have 31 windows to replace. I'd like to stay in the $200-300 price range. I'd like to keep the "look" of the old house charm but a true divided light window would send me to the poor house. I guess a new exterior paint scheme(white trim) would help integrate the white vinyl replacements.

Any suggestions would help.
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Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn

Post Number: 133
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 2:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We did the same thought process last year. If you really want the wood exterior you could always do a few at a time (start on the front of the house, or in the coldest rooms, etc). Kind of wish we had done that...

What we ended up doing is replacing our storm windows only. Now I wish I had looked into wood storms which I hear do exist, but we used the standard vinyl. Helped tremendously with insulation, and they do look better than the old metal storms/screens which made the windows look dingy. Don't look as good as new wood windows though.

There is at least one thread out there about refurbishing your existing windows which apparently can be cheaper than "good" replacements.

I think with our addition we are going to splurge with simulated divided light Marvin casements with wood exterior. I don't want to spend a lot of money on windows and then end up regretting my decision!
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dano
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Username: Dano

Post Number: 72
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 4:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can always replace your wooden Double Hungs??

www.oldfashionedwindows.com
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jgberkeley
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Username: Jgberkeley

Post Number: 3494
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would suggest the Pella replacements. Drive over to Ridgewood and Virginia Road at Jefferson Elementry school.

Take a look at the 2nd house, Lt. Green. Some of the windows you will see are original divided double hungs. Most will be Pella replacements. You can see three sides of the house.

You tell me which one is not a Pella replacement, double pane, agron gas filled, and I will give you a bottle of wine.

I install them or teach you to install them.

If interested, contact me at jgberkeley@aol.com

Later, George
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic.
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themp
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Username: Themp

Post Number: 569
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 2:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We did Marvins and they are extremely nice. Wood with aluminum cladding on the outside.

Why replace every single window? That would cost close to $10k for 30 windows! Maybe doing the bedrooms as phase one or something would be a good idea, and then see how you feel.

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