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Suzette
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Username: Sueyev

Post Number: 7
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 4:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone - I live on Pierson Road in the Golf Island section of Maplewood. When we moved here, it was a beautiful dead-end block and lined with thriving trees that have probably been there for at least 100 years. For the past 3 weeks, the DPW and now PSE&G are chopping down our trees with no thought or care! They say they are doing it because the branches might fall on the powerlines. One of the reasons we loved this block was you couldn't see the powerlines and trees lined the streets creating a lovely canopy. Now in a matter of weeks, they're gone.

I am so angry! They're ruining our block - killing a lot of the reasons why we moved here in the first place. The people they send out here to remove the trees don't know anything about what they're doing. They chop it down until there's just a stump left with no possibility of re-growth. I am disgusted there seems to be such a lack of concern for the trees of our neighborhood. Are they chopping down trees anywhere else??? What can we do??? The name our town is Maplewood for goodness sake!!
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 1590
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 5:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i think we should try to use lots of question marks and exclamation marks!!!!!
that will bring PSE&G to its knees!!!!!! right?????
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ajc
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Username: Ajc

Post Number: 4802
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 6:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...FWIW, the padded tree along side the ball field in Maplecrest Park was saved, and I suspect the group who saved it can be located at town hall. Try some members of the TC for more info. Good luck.
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Oldstone
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 591
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 6:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you are lame, dude.

suzette, i hear you. i live near you and i saw the guys doing their "work" at pierson or sommer and valley. you're right, they don't give a crap how they prune or strategically cut. last spring, they chopped half of a small tree in front of my house for no good reason. the tree is now lopsided and ugly and didn't have to be.
my next door neighbor told me he watched them do this and then when the guy saw what he actually had done, he said "sh*t" to his coworker and they both laughed and drove off.

wish i could tell you something good. don't bank on the libertarian for that either. ever.
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 1592
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 7:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

its called "a sense of humor". try one on for size. sometimes silly is fun.
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Waxwings
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Username: Waxwings

Post Number: 82
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 7:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

..."sometimes silly is fun."...Yes, sometimes silly is fun...but sensitivity to and consideration of other's distress should modify one's judgement.
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Suzette
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Username: Sueyev

Post Number: 8
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks - I know I sound like a crazy tree hugger but it is disenheartening to see your block change for the worst and it seems like you can't do anything about it. The contractors that PSE&G hired are from Texas and they could care less about Maplewood. They are also permitted to come on your property and hack away at your trees if they feel like they are too close to the powerlines.

As far as the libertarian is concerned - he can say what he wants. I've noticed his other postings.
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Colleen
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Username: Cbroderick

Post Number: 172
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It really is sad. We've had two trees on our end of the block killed by "pruning." It now looks completely different from when we moved in, too. The only thing that we have growing are the telephone poles, which I didn't even see until the trees were cut down!

We did get a new DPW sapling planted in front of our house last year. 15 years...
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mwsilva
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Username: Mwsilva

Post Number: 483
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do you want to stop this?

Then stop posting. Call, then go to the members of the Township Consul and ask each to put a stop to this.

Posting will do nothing.
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Dave
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 8758
Registered: 4-1997


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Texas Chainsaw Massacre?
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toad
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Username: Toad

Post Number: 128
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 5:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The trees at the end of Pierson Road may have appeared to be have been "thriving" but in fact many of them were dead, dying, or structurally unsound. Last fall one of the black cherries split and landed on a guide cable necessitating the need for DPW to be called out. In other instances trees were in close proximity and a threat to the primary power lines. Nobody likes to see healthy trees destroyed but if safety to pedestrians and property are a factor than the decision must be made to remove the problem tree(s).
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 1593
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 8:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

but sensitivity to and consideration of other's distress should modify one's judgement.

yes, you are right. with all that is going on in this world it is best that we get all worked up about a couple of trees. lets be indignant and get so angry that we completely lose the ability to see some humor in it. damn straight!

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meluga
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Username: Meluga

Post Number: 74
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 9:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Call Mayor Fred Profeta
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Joan
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Username: Joancrystal

Post Number: 7051
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Suzette:

I assume Toad knows what s/he is talking about since Toad has been the resident tree expert on this board for many years and has a good track record when it comes to diagnosis/recommendation regarding tree issues in town. Howver, you might want to contact Gary Lenci who is the current director of our public works department, which includes shade tree care, for his input before bringing the matter to the attention of the TC who will likely turn to Gary Lenci for input anyway before taking the matter further. Mr. Lenci's contact information may be found on the official town website and in the current issue of the Leaflet.

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Suzette
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Username: Sueyev

Post Number: 9
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks again everyone. We have spoken to Gary Lenci without much success. Will go to next Town Hall meeting and see the Mayor.

Incidently the black cherry tree that split last fall was because of a WM garbage truck that backed into it while collecting garbage. I watched it happen from my window.
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 5812
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I live in the area too and they are absolutely butchering the trees. They're outside right now.
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Virtual It Girl
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Username: Shh

Post Number: 4075
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 2:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here too! They are just going at itwithout any regard for the shape of the trees. If they come by the tree by my driveway I will go out and talk to them.
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LilLB
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Username: Lillb

Post Number: 1326
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 3:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They had to hire a service from Texas to cut down trees in New Jersey? What's up with that?

FWIW - Although I understand and respect the need to protect the power lines....I'd be annoyed with reckless cutting too.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 12628
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 4:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Libertarian, so will it be OK next time people belittle the things that concern you? Or should we be checking with you so you can straighten us all out with what's important and what's not?
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 1596
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 5:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i wasnt belittling anyone. jeez! you people can be downright self-righteous and self important. making a little fun of her use of exclamation points is no reason to make a federal case. learn to relax and find the humor in situations. If i make a serious comment and you find something silly in it, please be silly with it. we will both enjoy it.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 12630
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 5:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was this post, where you compared the tree problem with the rest of the world's problems, that I found belittling in tone. If I read you wrong, I apologize. And yes, let's have fun with each other. I think I'll make a joke about self-righteousness and black pots and kettles. We'll both enjoy it.
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 1599
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

despite my vociferous belief in my political and social views, i am actually a person who spends most of his time making silly gags and perfecting practical jokes. i dont really take too much seriously.
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Xuande
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Username: Xuande

Post Number: 8
Registered: 1-2006


Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 1:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PSE&G is never wrong. Ever. Your trees deserved it.
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toad
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Username: Toad

Post Number: 129
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 9:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although the clearance between the trees and the power lines is quite radical, the fact is that the power lines are contracted now due to the cold weather. During the summer months the primary electric wires will expand and droop much lower than they are now. Everything looks bare now but in a couple months when the foliage is out we will get a much different perspective of the pruning(?)that PSE&G did.
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 858
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am with lib-everyone relax.

...if you are so pissed off call city hall and plant some new trees after the "thugs" leave...

-SLK
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anon
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Username: Anon

Post Number: 2619
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Suzette says:

They are also permitted to come on your property and hack away at your trees if they feel like they are too close to the powerlines.

Libertarian: I do not understand why it was not that statement in her posting which drew your attention rather than her use of punctuation marks. What right does a private company at the behest of a governmental agency have to come onto someone's private property? If Suzette were accused of a serious crime the Police could not come onto her property without a warrant.

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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 1607
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 1:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PSE&G is never wrong. Ever. Your trees deserved it.

HOW CAN YOU MOCK HER LIKE THIS!!???!?!?!?!?!?

YOU ARE AN EVIL AND UNCARING PERSON!!!!!!!!!!
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HOMMELL
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Username: Hommell

Post Number: 37
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 2:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

anon - actually, they could come onto her property without a warrant. entering the house is another story, but I don't think the complaint is about PSE&G entering someone's house and chopping down a ficus.
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hch
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Username: Hch

Post Number: 213
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 1:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tree cutters visited our street on Saturday to save the poor power lines.

They managed to butcher my neighbors tree. When you drive up the street it actually looks like it was cut in half (vertically). Yet they left two random branches, one of which is touching one of the wires.

Another tree down the street is actually cut in the shape of a Y with the power lines going down the middle.

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