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Java Drinker
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Username: Java_drinker

Post Number: 1195
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 1:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone tell me what the construction project, that has required street-level pipes to be run the length of the street, is all about?

Thanks in advance!
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red
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Username: Redy67

Post Number: 6267
Registered: 2-2003


Posted on Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was wondering that myself; we went for a walk today and Elmwood is set up for new pipes.
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eliz
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Post Number: 1552
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, July 9, 2006 - 2:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I live near Elmwood and we got a notice a few weeks ago about construction for new water mains in the area. I would imagine that's what it is.
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JazzMe
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Post Number: 223
Registered: 1-2005


Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like Iraq's lost WMD tubes, no?!?!

I go to the pool every day and I'd like to know too...
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greenetree
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Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 1:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We live on Elmwood and got no notice.....
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jem
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Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 1:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Same here, we live closer to Elmwood than Eliz does - what's up with that?
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mim
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Post Number: 631
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 1:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bet you'll hear from them when they reach you. When this work was done in our Jersey City neighborhood (replacing centuries-old WOODEN mains), they did it incrementally, setting up groups of homes with temporary mains, then picking them up again as they moved along. It was totally uneventful for us, apart from the above-ground piping snaking down the block.
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LilLB
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Post Number: 1970
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 1:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We're one street over from Elmwood and did get a notice, but given that the flyer was in my bushes rather than my mailbox, I didn't know about it until the other day...looked like they delivered the notice several rainstorms ago, however....
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greenetree
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Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 2:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mim - they are working right across the street as we speak! Perhaps, given the location of Lil's flyer, it was meant as a notice to the squirrels? I'll look in my bushes tonight.

BTW - would this cause low water pressure? Maybe I'll call the police and ask....
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JazzMe
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Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 3:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It seems that they are connecting these pipes to a fire hydrant several yards away, so it's more a problem of bringing water somewhere... perhaps someone on this board who lives on Elmwood or one of the cross streets can ask the workers, I'm sure they be glad to explain.
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greenetree
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Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 3:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would, but I leave before they get there and come home after the are gone. Hence my plan to call MPD. And I really want to know badly, so I'll probably use 911.
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LilLB
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Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 4:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greentree, you're (once again) cracking me up.
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eliz
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Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 7:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I happened to be standing in my yard when the guy delivered the notice - it looked like something I would have just thrown away without reading.

It is definitely the water main - they are starting on Midland now and I saw the guy who delivered the notice working on the crew today.
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Larry Seltzer
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Username: Elvis

Post Number: 75
Registered: 4-2006


Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 8:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Coincidentally perhaps, they're going to be milling and repaving Boyden over the next couple of months. It should be a joy getting to and from the pool
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eb1154
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Post Number: 519
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 6:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The pipe work on Elmwood Ave. is being done by a contractor hired by NJAWC. They will be cleaning and lining the waters pipes on the streets between Elmwood and Parker from Prospect to Boyden. They were orignally hired to do the transmission line that ran through the town but they found it to already be lined and in good shape so they change the location.

Boyden Ave. is scheduled to be milled and paved at the end of this month. They will be replacing some manholes next week and milling the last week of July and paving the first week in August. The stretch of road between Elmwood and SA will be paved at night. The milling and paving will probably take about a week.

If you have any questions regarding the water lines you should call NJAWC. If you have any questions regarding Boyden Ave. you should call the Town Enginner.

Eric Burbank
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greenetree
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 7:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the well-intentioned explanation, Eric, but this really is a police matter.

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red
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 7:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

greenetree--if you could be so kind as to call the police for me. The pipes have turned up on my street.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 8:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why are valves, evenly spaced throughout the pipeline, spraying out some of the water constantly?
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LilLB
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Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greentree - while you're calling 911 for red, could you inquire about why we DON'T have the pipes on our street yet? Are they forgetting about us? I am deserving as the same pipes and orange cones as the rest of the town!

If you forget to ask during that call, don't worry - if you just dial 911 again, you can ask then.
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Larry Seltzer
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Username: Elvis

Post Number: 79
Registered: 4-2006


Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Notice (literally, except for the diagram):

New Jersey American Water

2006 - Short Hills Cleaning and Lining Program

Dear Residents of Millburn, Maplewood and Irvington:

For the next few months, New Jersey American Water Company will be cleaning and cement lining water mains in the area. This procedure will significantly improve water quality and fire flows.

New Jersey American Water Company will do everything possible to crate a minimum of inconvenience while the work is being completed. This brochure explains the procedure and answers some commonly asked questions. Thank you for your patience and support.

Sincerely,

New Jersey American Water Company

(p.2)

To residents of Millburn, Maplewood and Irvington:

Beginning in May and continuing through November, Spiniello Companies, a contractor for New Jersey American Water, will clean and line approximately 20,000 feet of water mains throughout the area.


This brochure answers some questions customers often ask about the main cleaning and lining procedure. If you have further questions, please call one of the numbers listed below.

What is main cleaning and lining?

Cleaning and Lining is the process of scraping any built-up material from inside of a water main, then lining the inside surface of the main with concrete.

How is main cleaning and lining done?

The water main is shut down. Workers force a scraping device through the main to remove build-up and deposits. A thin layer of concrete is then applied to the inside surface of the pipe. After the concrete lining dries, the main is then disinfected and returned to service.

What are the benefits of main cleaning and lining?

Flow and fire protection capacity of the main are increased, the life of the water main is extended, and a major cause of discolored water is eliminated. Also, while excavating to perform the work, New Jersey American Water makes any necessary upgrades to its system, saving time and money for future excavations and repairs.

Is this procedure going to interrupt my water service?

Only briefly. New Jersey American makes every effort to minimize service interruptions. Before work begins, temporary service lines are installed above ground and connected to your home or business at your meter, as depicted on the diagram in this brochure. [Sorry, no diagram - LJS] The temporary service lines provide you with continuous water service for the duration of the procedure. All temporary lines will be disinfected to ensure water quality.

Because the bypass hose is above ground, it can get heated during hot weather. If you have not used your water for a period of four hours or more, run a faucet for 10 minutes before using water. While the project is continuing, we suggest that you keep a pitcher of water in your refrigerator so that you have plenty of cold water to drink when the weather gets hot. We want to assure you that even if it is warm, your water is still safe to drink.

What number should I call if I experience a problem?

Between 9am - 4pm M-F Call (908) 755-0040 and ask to speak to the Cleaning and Lining Inspector. Or call the Customer Service center (24hrs) at 1-800-987-5325
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Lou
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Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I feel that the valves that seem to be constantly spraying water, could be turned towards the grass areas, that way it wouldn't just go to waste...
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jab
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Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 1:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I really want to know how running the water for 10 minutes will help if the water is hot from being at street level. Won't the water 10 minutes down the pipe also be hot, or is there less than 10 minutes worth of water at street level? I have to say that I was happy to receive the notice and know what was going on ahead of time, but the notice (a folded paper) easily could have been missed at a lot of houses.
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ajc
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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...so who pays for the 10 minutes of wasted water everytime you use it?
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MEC
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Post Number: 181
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 9:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My house guest was wondering how safe it was to have our water pipes temporarily above ground like that. Some "looney" could damage the pipe and or contaminate it the water. Right?
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Madison Ave
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Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 8:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Larry,
Thanks for giving us the text of the flier.

I want to know who is going to help me pick out the bits of tar from my sneakers as I run along Summit!

MEC - Some "looney" could also shoot your houseguest as he or she walks out the door. Them's the odds.

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