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Joan
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 2:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter: Thanks. I guess I'm still in shock over all that happened. Please accept my apology if I came on too strong.
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Rick B
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 4:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thread hi-jack:

what if you can fit 2 cars in your driveway and have an overnight visitor come when it snows. Is there a parking alternative other than the street?
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Joan
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 4:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rick:

The street would not be a parking alternative if it were to be snowing overnight. Parked cars present a problem for the plows.

Have you a garage you can put one or more cars in? If not, perhaps you neighbor has driveway space.
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Rick B
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 4:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joan,
Thanks, thats what I meant. If its not snowing, we can usually call the police dept and let them know, but since we are getting snow tonight, this poses a problem.

Unfortunately our garage is not an alternative and we have a shared driveway. Looks like i will have to count on some hospitality from neighbors.
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eb1154
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 6:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter, Believe me, we understand how frustrating it is to have your driveway plowed in over and over again. (I live in town and after I am done plowing the streets I have to deal with my driveway being plowed in) If we could do it any differently we would. I know who plowed your street and I will speak with him tonight.

Bobkat, you wouldn't believe the stories, and requests we get from the residents in town. They are usually followed by "I pay your salary so you work for me, and you will do as I say." Hell, I live in town and pay taxes too, does that make me self employed?

Rick B, off the record I would say to park in the pool lot near the first aid building. The people from the condo's on Boyden and Elmwood use this lot. One more car for one night shouldn't matter much.

Well, I hope everything goes well with this storm.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have extra space in my driveway, if that helps, and I'm much closer to you than the pool. I live on Plymouth Ave.
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susan1014
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 9:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eb,

Many thanks for all you and your coworkers do. My grandfather drove a snow plow for the county (not Essex) for many years. I remember more than a few times when he got called away an hour before a holiday dinner to go drive a very long shift. Thank you.

And, of course you are going to plow snow at the bottom of my driveway. It's your job to clear the street; it's my job to clear the driveway. It isn't physically possible for you to plow the whole street without plowing in front of my driveway! Some of us get it.
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Peter
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 9:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eb,

Thanks again. I didn't express the appreciation of our family for the work and hours you guys put in. I can hear you outside right now, and when I get up tomorrow and run my snow blower (with the chute pointing onto the lawn), you can be sure I'll be friendlier, grateful and appreciative.

Peter
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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 7:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd like to make a plea for kindness and charity with respect to snow shovelling within the law.

I just came in from shovelling our front steps and porch, sweeping off the cars, and a little essential shovelling to get to them. I have to go to work today; the environment is such that I daren't call in for snow. My husband is unable to to shovel, or much of anything, due to surgery, and he is out of work. I am 50 with a not great back. Our kid is 11, and I must make things passable so he can drive her to school in a couple of hours. She has some capacity for shovelling, but not not enough to do the whole job.

I think there are more of "us" than you think -- people who would like to clear their sidewalks and all within "time," but lack the physical or other capacity to do it quickly. We lack the money to hire a firm. Personally, I usually count on pairs of high school boys/young men who pass through our streets, eager for the work for $20. None today, and none last week.

There are no helpful neighbors bailing each other out on this on my street.

So. Yes, it's the law, and most of the time we do the right thing. But if you are dying to walk your dog today, or a little too hair trigger on taking your neighbors to task for this, stop and think that maybe they truly aren't able at the moment and give them a break. Or, shovel for them.

Maybe this is kind of like people who legally park in handicapped spaces, but who don't appear to be in need. Too often, we are quick to assume the worse.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 7:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Most of us do cut you slack, along with others who shovel late or not at all. It's the few who don't who give the impression that no one cares.

At least, that's the way I hope things really are.

And I have no excuse for the fact that I usually shovel late!
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Bobkat
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Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 7:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A compliment, a rant and a scary story:

1. Kudos to the Town workers. At a little before 6:00am the streets I drove on to get to the station were all passable and some of the main ones were already down to asphalt!

2. Before leaving I shoveled a path along the sidewalk in front of our house and will widen it up this evening or Saturday morning. One of our neighbors, who thinks she is anonymous tends to leave anonymous notes in peoples mailbox reminding them to shovel the whole walk for the stroller set. I am sure I will have one this evening. This wouldn't bug me very much, if the family in question shoveled their walk. They use a landscaper to do this and he probably wouldn't show up until Saturday evening. :-(

3. When I was out shoveling I noticed footprints going around our house. Scary, very scary. Gonna get some new locks for the windows over the weekend and maybe some "00" for the 12 Gauge.
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shh
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Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 8:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We used to have a neighbor who travelled a lot for business. If my husband or I was out there shoveling, we'd do their sidewalk just to help out. (We're not talking major frontage, maybe 50 feet.) It was no big deal, and in time, we found we'd end up taking turns. If one or the other of us was out first, we'd do it for the other house. It was like teamwork.
They moved, and our current neighbors, though we love them, don't do the same thing. There were several years where my husband would work very late, leave at 5 am, and I was inside with a baby. After awhile of my husband shoveling into the night, I realized I don't mind doing it, (as long as the kids are safe inside).
My husband is also the kind of guy who will make sure the elderly neighbors are shoveled out, luckily there are a few families on the block who do that.
If you know your neighbors are away for a few days, or are physically unable, and you are physically able, help out. It would be greatly appreciated and will most likely be reciprocated in some way.
We moved in during the blizzard of 96 and shovelling that winter was how my husband met our neighbors.
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shh
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Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 8:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob, the footprints ARE scary!
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Earlster
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Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 9:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob, any chance the footprints are from the garbage man?
If not they are scary. Get some bear traps and hide them in the snow.
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Bobkat
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Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope, we are on a Wednesday and Saturday schedule.


ps: for the record the 12 gauge remark was in jest
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Joan
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Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob:

How large were the footprints? We have squirrels in the tree in our side yard. They will scamper down the tree and into the yard, leaving footprints in the snow which start and stop at the tree trunk. If the snow is soft, as it was this morning, the footprints will get larger until they are near human size.

Deer circling your house could have produced the same effect in a much shorter time.
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Earlster
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Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 6:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob,

any chance the garbage man are on a changed schedule because Monday was a holiday? Just a thought.
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eb1154
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Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 9:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob, I would call the Police and let them check it out. (if the snow didn't melt yet) They can give that area extra attention for a while.

Peter, I hope the guys didn't bury you too bad. I spoke with several of the drivers and gave them a little reminder about speed.

I don't know if the section I plow has a lot of MOLers but I got a lot of waves from the people last night and this morning. It made all the difference in how the rest of my 32 hour shift went. Thank you.

I plow between Ridgewood and Wyoming.
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Reflective
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Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bobkat -do you sleepwalk?
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Bobkat
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Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 4:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mystery solved!!! And even BobK panics from time to time. :-)

Late Thursday evening one of our neighbors was walking his dog and the dog decided to take an excursion into our yard. Dog walker followed to retrieve the noxious cur, thusly the tracks.

In the dark before six I could see the human footprints, but missed the dog tracks.

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kmk
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Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 11:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

eb1154,

You are my hero!

I am in your plowing area and I arrived home VERY frazzled on Thursday night. I had been traveling all day with 3 little kids (and no husband) and we had been through all sorts of airport hell.....our luggage just made it to Maplewood last night.

We were lucky enough to have our car at Newark airport - I dreaded driving home and trying to climb my hill. (See past posts re: Volvo and snowy hill.) We all decided to hit the pub for a much needed dinner (United airlines - 7 hours no food). As we left the pub I said a little prayer for our final leg of the journey....

IT'S BEEN PLOWED!!! THE STREET'S BEEN PLOWED! We were hootin' and howlerin' in the car. Yeah, mom can drive us up the hill! The plows have been here....YEAH!

Thanks again. We slept like babies.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 3:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joan- Did you ever find out who hit your house? Hopefully the police will find the driver. The car has got to have some kind of damage after hitting everything it hit.

eb1154 - I don't envy you. Thanks for getting up at ungodly hours and plowing the streets!

Cynical- It's too bad you don't live in my neighborhood. We tend to look out for each other. As for your neighbor who leaves obnoxious notes in your mailbox, I thought it was against the law to leave other then mail in a mailbox.

I just learned from my sister we're supposed to get up to a foot of snow tomorrow!!! UG!
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Joan
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Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 4:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just the Aunt:

We found out who owned the car! The car wasn't reported stolen either! Check my blog for the full story.

I was so sorry to hear about the stolen bottle with the collection money in it. This seems to have been such a bad week for so many of us.

Cynical Girl:

I'm glad to hear your husband is on-the-mend. I know he will be up and around and shoveling in no time.

EB:

Best wishes for a light snow fall and an easy job of clearing from the storm predicted for tomorrow.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 6:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Joan-
I'm off to read your blog. Glad you were able to find the owner of the car who hit your house.

Thanks for mentioning the bottle.

The boys want to come with me tonight to Heres2TheArts, but it's past their bedtime.
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eb1154
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Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 7:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hopefully the snow won't hit us hard until after the rush hour. So far I heard 6 to 10 inches, starting around noon but ending a little after midnight. If this is the case the p.m. rush hour might be nasty, but we should have everything open for Tuesday's a.m. rush hour.

Joan, I'm glad to hear you found the driver.
Just the Aunt, Sorry about the bottle. Give me a call at the South Orange Elks and we will cut a check for $100.00. The number is 973-762-9848. Just leave me a message with the info and I will have it next Monday night.

Eric
Be careful on the roads tomorrow and I hope evryone gets home safe.
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doulamomma
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Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 10:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have had the nicest surprise lately...really just made my day. We have some relatively new neighbors - we have traded baked goods back & forth & visited a few times. They are from PA & used to lots of snow & have a snow blower...they have been snow blowing our sidewalk very early & say it's no big deal. There is banana bread or some shoveling coming their way when they need it! I so appreciate this act of kindness...I think maybe it's karma, as we shoveled/cleaned cars for our neighbor when she had hip surgery.
Shh: I too have discovered that I don't mind shoveling - haven't told my husband that though!

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