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frannyfree
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 3:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who is it on the Township Commitee that thought it was a good idea to have 4 manicure shops on one block?
Is the committee even looking these things over?
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Taylor M
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Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 3:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guess what!? There are soon to be FIVE!!! That's right -FIVE! There are several threads about this already. South Orange has the same problem.
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Joan
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This one isn't up to the TC. It's up to all of us who live, work and visit in our lovely town. If you don't want to see more nail salons, don't patronize the ones that are already here and do more shopping at stores in town which are not nail salons.
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Bill P
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Post Number: 40
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 4:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm starting to think we need a separate category just for nail salon postings.

But Joan is right. Ya don't want nail salons in your town, don't go to them.

Either that or make it so hard to find parking that they go out of business.
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anon
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Supply and Demand. Free Enterprise. Captalism.

Isn't that what made America great?
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sac
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 5:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The parking solution is not a solution because it will impact the other kinds of businesses in the area also.

I just don't get how those businesses can hope to survive?
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ajc
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 5:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"I just don't get how those businesses can hope to survive?"

Isn't this really all about the ladies in our community? I don't suspect many guys in our town are driving our thriving nail salon market...
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Reflective
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 6:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ajc
I was thinking the same as I was reading down.
Gosh, the demand for pedis and manis from the ladies of Mpwd must be tremendous.

I haven't seen queques on the sidewalks, but these entrepreneurs have an uncanny way of immediately providing supply for demand.

The good news is easy come, easy go, that is when demand decreases, they will cut back on supply.

This is Michael Porter theory at its best.
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Bill P
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Post Number: 41
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 6:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was only kidding about the parking solution, sac. I'm possessed of a particularly perplexing pet peeve pertaining to parking problems.

Evolution will fix this when we no longer need finger nails.

BTW nice pic Art.
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ajc
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Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 3:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Bill, it's my annual winter coat. I usually shave it off in the spring...

FWIW, this nail phenomenon seems to have persisted for over a decade, and appears to still be expanding. Women are using more and more of their disposable income to pamper themselves.

It looks like the more money they make the more they spend. Lets just be glad it’s only nails they're into and not diamonds, fur coats, and fast cars...
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Joan
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Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 7:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the trend continues, we could become the first town in our region to hold an annual finger and toe nail festival.
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Bill P
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Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 8:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess it could be worse, Art. Can you imagine if the women of our community decided to spend their disposable income on, say, crack?

I imagine the TC might do something about it then.

Are people really upset that it's nail places, or is it more the loss of a variety of other long-standing Maplewood businesses? If I remember, you had a bookstore where Kim's is now, Kean's Cleaners where the Nail House is, and Cornercopia, formerly a drugstore, where the new nail house is going. So variety and tradition are being replaced by an overabundance of a single type of business.

Oh well. My $0.02 for the morning on this subject.
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phyllis
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Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My understanding is that Nail House is often empty and I have never had a problem getting in to Kim's (although sometimes there's a 5-10 minute wait.) I walk past two nail places on Springfield that are often empty. So I'm not sure that the "women pampering themselves" phenomenon is in full swing as some here have proposed. I'm not sure what sort of business plan the nail places have, or if they are just easier to open/less investment/less risky than other types of businesses.
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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 7:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From Today's Star Ledger:

TOWN FEARS NAIL SALONS WILL GET OUT OF HAND
Tiny Maplewood has three, and officials may file an ordinance to limit them
Monday, February 14, 2005
BY KATIE WANG
Star-Ledger Staff
Seven years ago, Bang-Sook Kim saved enough money to buy her own nail salon smack in the middle of Maplewood village.

For a while, Kim's Nails & Spa was the only enterprise in town dedicated exclusively to manicures, pedicures, facials and other grooming services. That is until last year when Nail House opened across the street. Soon, Leo's Nails will open down the block, making three salons inone tiny downtown.

Village officials are not happy and are considering an ordinance that would curb nail parlors by imposing distance restrictions between them. Salon owners, looking to protect their business, support the idea.

"There's too many of them," said Mayor Fred Profeta. "If it were pizza parlors or movie theaters or real estate offices, the same analogies might apply. We simply don't think it's healthy for the village economy to be predominated by a particular kind of business."

Maplewood wouldn't be the first municipality in New Jersey to restrict the salons.

Nutley, which has 18 nail salons in town, including13 on Main Street, passed an ordinance in December restricting new salons from opening within 500 feet of another unless the zoning board grants a variance.

"Women and men want to have their nails done and we want to make that service available to residents," said Nutley Mayor Joanne Cocchiola. "But we want all kinds of businesses in the downtown."

Not that Cocchiola has anything against nail parlors.

"I have spent most of my life getting my nails done," she said with a laugh.

Nail salon ordinances are no different from others municipalities have passed to put distance restrictions between gas stations, mobile homes, pawn shops, banks or campgrounds.

"I do not think it would be illegal because there are other kinds of ordinances about other kinds of businesses," said Deborah M. Kole, staff attorney for the New Jersey League of Municipalities.

In Maplewood, the village retail area stretches over four blocks and is heavily dominated by restaurants. There also is a pet shop, children's shoe store, grocery store, wine shop and stationerystore.

Last year, a drugstore downtown closed, opening a piece of prime real estate. There were rumors of a Starbucks or clothing store. But the new tenant turned out to be another nail salon.

A large white sign that says, "Leo's Nails coming soon," dangles from the building, across the street from Nail House and several doors down from Kim's.

In addition to the three nail salons, theAnthony Garubo Salon and Day Spa does offer manicures and pedicures. There also are two other hair salons on the fringes of the village retail area that do nails.

The ubiquitous nail salons should not be surprising given that New Jersey has the most nail salons per capita in the country, according to a survey by Nails magazine a few years ago. That makes the competition stiff and the reason why Kim supports introducing such an ordinance.

"There are so many salons," she said. "It's a very small town."

Some of her longtime clients who pay $8 for a manicure and $19 for a pedicureagreed.

Janet Bustrin of Maplewood has been getting her weekly manicures at Kim's for seven years.

"At the moment in Maplewood, we probably don't have enough nails to service three nail salons," Bustrin said. "I don't think Maplewood needs three nail salons. There are three pizza parlors, but they are all different."

Jenny Lee, the owner of Nail House, says she would also support restrictions on nail parlors. Her manicures also are $8 and her pedicures are a sliver more expensive at $20.

Lee, a Fort Lee resident, opened in December, 2003, after running a salon in Ramsey for a decade. She was drawn to Maplewood because of its downtown charm and cheaper rent.

"Why are you going to rent a nail salon?" she asked, referring to the owner of the building who rented the space for Leo's Nails. "We need a clothing store and a shoe store."

Garubo said he doesn't mind the competition and would be against the ordinance. His salon has been downtown for 30 years. Prices for nail services there are roughly double that of his competitors.

"It's America, it's the land of the free," he said. "People can choose what they want. If you have a good product and you open up a salon then you know it will survive."

Staff writer Kasi Addison contributed to this report.

Copyright 2005 NJ.com. All Rights Reserved.

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cmontyburns
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Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 4:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah yes. Capitalism -- she is a cruel mistress.

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njphilf
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Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Last count, SA has only 27 "nail & beauty" salons according to springfieldavenue.com. I say 35 is enough.
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cmontyburns
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Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 2:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Obviously no one wants these nail shops. Right?

Wonder how they stay in business. With no one wanting them there.
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gj1
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Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 10:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone notice the new purple night lighting at Leo Nails? How about the all too visible pink stained furnishings? The place is an embarrassment both day and night.
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Taylor M
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Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 11:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought Leo was going to be 'high class?' What a joke! Hopefully nobody will go there and they will close down.




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gemini
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Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 6:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have to say I agree, Taylor. I am all for Capitalism, but something smells fishy, and it's not Freemans. Anyway, I growl at people that I see in Leo's (just kidding), but will wait 15 minutes at Kims before going there. I wonder how long their lease is for?
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steel
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Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 9:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I walked by the airline-terminal-bar glow of Leo's the other night.
I think if they put pole-dancing in the middle it could be a terrific BYOB-Badda-Bing Club.
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steel
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Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 9:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Leo's is also big enough that they could easily put a tattoo artist in one corner, -Montclair has two! -We need to catch up!
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Lucky13
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Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 9:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

welcome to the bush economy. nail salons and tittie bars. soon to come dog salons. 90% of us working as handmaidens to the other 10%.
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Bob K
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Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 10:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steel, there is a new liquor license available so why BYOB?
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sac
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Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not one to get my nails done, but if I was, I wouldn't want to go there. With all those big windows, the customers must be on display to everyone who drives by. Do people really like that?
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 5:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kims does nails in the front windows. The person who cuts my hair at Haircore in Madison has the first chair, right in the window. I do not like it at all~

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