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sbenois
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Post Number: 13556
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Posted on Monday, May 9, 2005 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So how did you know that?
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wendy
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Post Number: 906
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Posted on Monday, May 9, 2005 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Once I let go of extraneous Mets and Yankees stats, I realized there are better ways of showing off. Japanese films work much better for overall effect.
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sbenois
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Posted on Monday, May 9, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not impressed Wendy.
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wendy
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Post Number: 907
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Posted on Monday, May 9, 2005 - 10:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I'll have you know that only 7/8s of my postings are for the purpose of impressing you. The other 1/8 is for my wider audience and my own feeling of giving back to the community.
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Dave
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 12:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's really Akutagawa's Rashomon. He wrote it in 1915. Kurosawa turned it into a movie in '51 and it flopped in Japan. Then it won some award in Venice.

However, the story adapted for the movie was actually Akutagawa's "In a Grove," not "Rashomon." Finally got to use my comparative lit studies for something!
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Reflective
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Post Number: 934
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 8:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave
Thought your "comparative lit studies" was confined to puffing on various stoogies...
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Strawberry Statement
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Post Number: 4973
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 10:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, that would be Clinton..
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kathleen
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 10:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of All in the Family, I have to correct something I wrote yesterday: It was Chris Durkin, not Tim Durkin who exploited the anti-reval furor in Maplewood to turn Fred Profeta into a "Democrat" in order to boost vote totals in Maplewood for Joey D. Vicenzo in his run for Essex County Executive. After Joey D. won, several members of the Durkin family moved into County jobs. Last I heard Tim Durkin was in Essex law enforcement. Joan Durkin became the county tax collector.

Speaking of Essex County taxes: When Fred Profeta ran as an Independent grass roots candidate, he told the voters he was AGAINST the county system of government. He told the voters he believed the county took too much in taxes and he would work for a different system. Fred Profeta told the voters that since he was "real deal" Independent who wasn't tied to either party, he could do that.

After he lost that election and declared himself a "Democrat" in order to run on the Democratic party line controlled by the Essex County political machine, we never heard any more from Fred about how we were going to get out from under the Essex County tax burden.
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kathleen
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 10:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ajc,

Thanks for reminding me that Fred Profeta used to post at length on Maplewood Online that he felt that Maplewood urgently needed to change its form of government to resemble that of the South Orange so we could have non-partisan elections in May rather than November (when most voters go to the polls.)

Since getting elected to the TC on the Democratic party line, I haven't heard what became of Fred's enthusiasm for this better form of government. Have you?

As for whether progressive partisan politics "belongs" at the municipal level: If progressive, liberal Democrats can't openly campaign and vote for their convictions in their own local elections, where can they in America anymore? At the state and national level, liberals have to vote "strategically" in primaries in hopes of ultimately winning crossover Repbulican voters. In Maplewood, you can just vote directly for what you believe in and the government you want.
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trapper
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Post Number: 176
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kathleen,

You sound like you don't like Fred Profeta or Ian Grodman too much. So you're voting for Vic and Fred? Vic and Ian? Vic alone?
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wendy
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Post Number: 915
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 10:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

trapper, anyone with an anonymous screen name who asks someone how many votes they are casting and who themselves doesn't say who they will be voting for, gets the chutzpah of the day award, imo. There's a reason why voting booths have curtains, doncha think?
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trapper
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Post Number: 178
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 10:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's also such things as lawn sign advertising who you'll vote for. There's also a phenomenon called campaigning, where people publically declare who they will be voting for. Dontcha think?

So send over my chutzpah award.

And let Kathleen answer my question please.
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wendy
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Post Number: 917
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kathleen, as always, will do whatever she wants to do. You were asking her a strategy question: there are two slots and of those who support Vic, what will they do with the other vote. Strategies don't get placed on the lawn.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 12:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it's fair for trapper to ask kathleen to finish stating her recommendations. So far, we know she is recommending against Fred and Ian and in favor of Vic.
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wendy
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Post Number: 918
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 12:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didn't say it wasn't fair. I said it was, imo, nervy to ask given the asker and the question. Again, whether kathleen is finished stating her recommendations or not is up to her to say.

So far all you know from me as well is that I'm supporting Vic. And that's all you'll know unless you become a good friend of mine.
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trapper
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Post Number: 179
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 1:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What to you mean by nervy given the asker?

Wendy, I have no idea if that's really your name, or if it is, what your last name is. I don't know why my anonimity suddenly matters.

kathleen is a screen name, but so is wendy, Tom Reingold, trapper, woodster, mlh, reflective, wharfrat, etc.

If I got the screen name theresa, would I then be entitled to ask kathleen her "strategy"?

Better yet, just let kathleen answer. Please.
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wendy
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Post Number: 920
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 1:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

trapper, I barely know kathleen. I met her once just a few weeks ago. We disagree on many things. Believe me or not. It's not up to me to "let" kathleen answer. I gave my opinion on the question. That's all.

trapper everyone knows I post under my name. If you're questioning whether I'm really Wendy Lauter as I've said many times before or whether Tom Reingold is who he is, then I feel sorry for your level of distrust you have in this world.
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wendy
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Post Number: 921
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 1:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Listen, this is simple. You have the right to ask anything you want. I have the right to critique the question based on the substance of the question and the questioner.
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trapper
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Post Number: 180
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 1:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Listen, Wendy. Believe me when I tell you I don't know you. Everyone knows Wendy Lauter posts as Wendy? That's an assumption you made that was incorrect. Irregardless. It doesn't mean those who don't post under their real name, or real first name, or real first syllable, or real initials are less deserving of posting here.

Please don't respond. You're not kathleen's protector are you? Based on what I've read, she can take care of herself.

Kathleen, your vituperative posts about Profeta and Grodman have me thinking you're just voting for Vic. Care to comment, kathleen? (not wendy)
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kathleen
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Post Number: 48
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 12:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wendy,

Do you mean to tell me that even after I stood there arguing in the rain you still don't agree with everything I say?

trapper,

Wendy is Wendy. Trust me.

I already posted elsewhere several days ago that I am supporting Vic in this election -- so far! I could change my mind depending on what Vic does from here out. But I think his ideas are by far the right ones for Maplewood.

Fred long ago destroyed any chance that I would ever vote for any thing he ran for, which isn't to say anything about his personal life, just his political one. And after 3 years, I've yet to see or hear a single reason to vote for Ian, and he's got an uphill climb this month to change my mind. Were Vic not in the race, I'd just be mowing my lawn (which desperately needs it).

I wouldn't describe my posts about Fred and Ian as vituperative. I'd describe them as frequently derisive of their claims they deserve to be re-elected to the TC -- although they don't seem to be campaigning. I guess they're still trying to figure out what to say to us.

Are you a Democrat?


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