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Citizen
Username: Nat1luv
Post Number: 1
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 3:15 pm: |     |
Can someone help me out. I have a single car garage with a driveway barely adequate enough for an additional car. There are 3 drivers at my house so therefore we take turns calling in and requesting overnight parking on the street with Maplewood Police. This is a hassle!! Can anyone tell me why Maplewood is still one of the few municipalities with this no parking from 2-6 am law? Outside of the town earning revenue on this violation what is the purpose of this law? If there is no significance how can I go about having it changed? |
wendy
Supporter
Username: Wendy
Post Number: 1654
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 4:32 pm: | |
I know we're not alone among our neighboring municipalities having this ordinance but actually I'm not sure of the purpose - possibly as a crime deterrent. How many cars do you have? I also have a relatively small driveway with no garage that can squeeze three cars in a pinch but we only have two cars. I would start by calling the police department to find out if they know the reason for the ordinance; then call the Clerk's office to speak with the Township Administrator. |
Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 6311
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 4:45 pm: | |
This is an anti-crime ordinance and we are not the only town in the area to have it.
Calling the police department for permission to park overnight in the street is only supposed to be used as a temporary measure - driveway being repaved, overnighting temporary guest, etc.
If you really need three cars and only have room for two, you might check with your neighbors to see if any of them have extra garage and/or driveway space you can use. |
Jgberkeley
Citizen
Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 4292
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 5:57 pm: | |
Agreed on the anti-crime reason.
Point is if the police see any car parked on the streets, they check it out.
Could be me parking by mistake and I get a ticket.
Could be a bad person who is checking out the inside of my house, and the police need to catch them.
Could be a bad person that robbed a store and escaped the police by pulling down a dark street and parking. When the car is spoted on the street, it makes a good reason to check it out. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 9380
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 6:26 pm: | |
The usual reason given for overnight parking rules, and I know SO has a similar ordinance, is to make sure single family houses are quietly turned into multi unit buildings.
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wendy
Supporter
Username: Wendy
Post Number: 1655
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 6:38 pm: | |
Bob, I think you left out the "not". Yes? |
ken (the other one)
Citizen
Username: Ken
Post Number: 295
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 7:02 pm: | |
The think the Town gives out O/N Parking permits if you don't have a garage or not enough room in your driveway. It may be worth a call... |
sac
Supporter
Username: Sac
Post Number: 2622
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 8:09 pm: | |
Drive through many of the streets in Union (Vaux Hall section especially) or Irvington (I think) and you will see why this ordinance is desirable. Not only does it help with crime, but it keeps the streets from becoming permanent parking lots, which really brings down the neighborhood. So it is part of our quality of life in these towns. That being said, I do hope that there is a mechanism for a permit in your situation. The occasional exception to the rule does not ruin the desired effect of the law and would be appropriately resident-friendly. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 2471
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 12:59 am: | |
Who
You must be to to the area because almost every surrounding town I can think of doesn't allow overnight parking... |
sac
Supporter
Username: Sac
Post Number: 2627
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 6:50 am: | |
Well ... maybe it has changed recently, but I know I've driven through areas (the ones mentioned above, I thought, but perhaps it is old information) and they obviously did not have that law, or did not enforce it. And the fact that it was obvious also proved why the law was desirable or at least it seemed so to me.
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Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 9385
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:35 am: | |
Wendy, Freudian slip?  |
wendy
Supporter
Username: Wendy
Post Number: 1656
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 10:27 am: | |
And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.  |
jet
Citizen
Username: Jet
Post Number: 915
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 11:13 am: | |
I'm all for the ordinace. |
greenetree
Supporter
Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 5383
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 1:33 pm: | |
I love the ordinance. |
Who needs to know
Citizen
Username: Nat1luv
Post Number: 2
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 3:55 pm: | |
Now I understand the purpose of the ordinance and Im sure those of you who "love" the ordinance have long driveways that park 4 or more cars. However do you have any recommendations on how to resolve my parking dillema? (Without having to tear down my garage and reconstruct my property) I will try the 2 that were suggested. Thanks ken & wendy. |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 507
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 2:28 pm: | |
I think we all know that this parking ordinance has nothing to do with crime. It is simply a money maker.
South Orange has the same ordinance. I once asked a member of their board of trusties why it was in place. He told me that he had no idea why, or what purpose it served. |
SO Ref
Citizen
Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1085
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 4:42 pm: | |
I think a bigger money maker would be to issue a limited number of permits at, say, $100 per year and, then, aggressively ticket the offenders who didn't pony up or who don't call in for permission...it's a nice give and take.
And, if the police really need immediate visibility, make the friggin' sticker/permit fluorescent.
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Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 2487
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 5:19 pm: | |
Does anyone remember those "C.A.T." stickers the South Orange Police were giving out a few years ago? |
Ellen Sleeter
Citizen
Username: Ellen
Post Number: 16
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 8:58 pm: | |
While it's true that the no parking 2-6am ordinance seems to be widely implemented in North Jersey, I had NEVER encountered it before.
I moved here from Lambertville (sigh...), and before that lived in Princeton 3 years, Metuchen 2 years, Santa Monica 5 years, etc. Never heard of such a thing.
On the night I moved in, I went out to the PathMark to get food staples, dragged my sorry ••• up the front steps and packed the fridge, then had the drain on the kitchen sink fall apart, water everywhere. Called my brud in PA to come and HELP(!), and fell into bed.
Next day, brud arrives before I even rise, bearing the parkihg ticket from my car windshield.
It was hard to believe. No, I didn't have a realtor rep, or a local real estate attorney, I tell the judge.
However, I LIKE the regulation! But... I can understand that it's surprising to newcomers. |
hch
Citizen
Username: Hch
Post Number: 145
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 10:35 am: | |
I like the ordinance even though I've received a couple of tickets after forgetting to move the car.
I don't want my street to turn into an overnight parking lot. Makes the neighborhood look a lot nicer. |
Peter
Citizen
Username: Peter
Post Number: 41
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 12:24 pm: | |
It's ridiculous that the ordinance is enforced near the train station: We got ticketed at 2:01 the other night near the train station. The last train from Penn Station, on weekend nights, arrives at 2:13. What, do I have to call the cops from some noisy club in the city and explain I'll be few minutes late? I thought I was done with that when I moved out of my dad's house. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 9714
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 12:26 pm: | |
Yeah, it's like a curfew, and you have to call your parents. |
Virtual It Girl
Citizen
Username: Shh
Post Number: 3269
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 1:23 pm: | |
Peter, you can call from the train. After learning my lesson, I saved the MPL PD no. in my cell phone and made a few drunken calls from the last train. I remember one time in particular I could not for the life of me remember my license plate number so I gave them the make and model and told them where I parked. Isn't that enough? |
bill671
Citizen
Username: Bill671
Post Number: 131
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 2:06 pm: | |
Were they sitting there waiting to pop you for DWI when you went to drive home?
Just being funny - not insinuating that YOU would even consider driving while impaired, but there are still a lot of people out there who chance spilling their drink while driving!!! |
Virtual It Girl
Citizen
Username: Shh
Post Number: 3272
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 2:15 pm: | |
I thought about that when I posted...
actually, I was always with my husband who drinks sensibly.
I myself am a lightweight! |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 2548
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 11:14 pm: | |
Pete-
I'd fight that ticket if I were you. One minute after 2am? How is the officer sure his, (or her) watch wasn't fast? |
Peter
Citizen
Username: Peter
Post Number: 43
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 2, 2005 - 3:35 pm: | |
I called the cops on Saturday night and told them our car would be at the station and our babysitter's car would be in front of our house. No problem, they said. But what still gets me is they dispatcher asked "why?" So, reverting to my teenage person I told her, "we're going out." I half expected her to ask where and with whom, to which I would have replyed, "nowhere" and "no one." And if she'd asked what we were going to do, I would have said "nothing."
Anyway, the Social Distortion concert ended earlier than we expected so we were home well before 2. |
greenetree
Supporter
Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 5442
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 2, 2005 - 4:02 pm: | |
Who - I used the word "love" and I can park two cars.
Having lived in areas where there was no such ordinance, I agree that this helps keep property values up and crime down. |
Camille and Pierre F
Citizen
Username: Pcfrancis
Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, October 2, 2005 - 8:24 pm: | |
The ordinance is rampant throughout Northern NJ. Although some town do give you a 30 minute grace period.
You can purchase a parking permit if your driveway is not long enough or your garage not wide enough.
East Orange, I know for sure has the same ordinance, so I don't know about keeping crime down. And the police department in East Orange is not, as forgiving, if you have to park there overnight or for an extended stay. |
Prescott Perez-Fox
Citizen
Username: Scottperezfox
Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 7, 2005 - 1:07 pm: | |
Generally I am in favour of the ordinance because its keeps the neighbourhoods tidy. Some streets in Maplewood are far too narrow to keep cars parked on the street anyway, so that takes care of that.
However, I have gotten a ticket in front of my own house after falling asleep, or simply forgetting. Its annoying in that regard. |
Jonathan teixeira
Citizen
Username: Jhntxr
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, October 9, 2005 - 5:25 pm: | |
Hey Guys,old in town ,new on the board.I always thought the overnight parking issue was to enable street cleaning.and it is effective in plowing the streets.So it is a good idea.Even east orange has it.Go to town hall and apply for a permit if you only have a one car garage,or don't have a garage. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4188
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 5:46 pm: | |
Welcome Jon... It's always nice to see old residents become new members to the Board.
Good suggestion, but I'm really against any long term parking permits for residents. There are too many cars parked at the Bank of America lot on Jacoby Street and Springfield Avenue. Yet, in the Village I see they put up "No Overnight Parking Signs" in back of the Maplewood Avenue Branch of the bank. What's going on here? Does anyone know why people can park over night on the Avenue and not in the Village?
BTW, best wishes and good luck Jon in the Wacky, Wonderful, World of MOL... |
grw
Citizen
Username: Grw
Post Number: 401
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 2:25 pm: | |
It was written to allow the "Streetsweeper Access" |
Old and Gray
Citizen
Username: Pastmyprime
Post Number: 229
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 9:11 pm: | |
Why not make your driveway wider to accomadate a second vehicle?
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Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 2702
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 2:46 am: | |
Art-
Maybe the lot where the bank on the Ave is a private lot? The one by the station is town owned?
Sort of like South Orange. Most of the lots are town lots. But, the lot by Pathmark is a private lot.
Another example is the Quickchek lot. Private. They can allow anyone they want to park there. My thinking is the owners of the property where the bank is allows people to park there overnight. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4233
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 7:30 am: | |
"Maybe" the moon is made of Swiss Cheese?
Who among us is interested enough to "fly" to Town Hall and find out for sure?
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Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 6491
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 7:48 am: | |
Parking overnight in a private parking lot in town isn't very different from parking overnight in a driveway. In both instances, the vehicle is not parked on the street or in a municipal lot between the hours of 2 AM and 6 AM, thus no violation of the ordinance. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4234
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 8:29 am: | |
Joan, the question is is the B of A lot at Jacoby Street rented out by them to locals for overnight parking? The B of A lot in the Village is posted for No Overnight Parking.... What's the story? |
Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 6495
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 8:46 am: | |
Art:
I was addressing Peter's question. There have been a number of questions raised about the parking/no parking situation on this thread.
I have no personal experience with the overnight parking situation at the Bank of America Parking Lot on Jacobi Street. However, if the lot is posted for no overnight parking and cars are still parking there overnight with permission of the parking lot's owner, then it would seem to me that either the signage or the use of the lot for overnight parking should be changed.
The Police Department should be notified and consulted to determine whether overnight parking at that lot poses a threat to the safety and well being of people and property in the immediate vicinity of the parking lot.
If there is deemed to be a threat, the police department should enforce the no overnight parking ordinance there, despite any arrangement the owner of the lot may have with the persons who park there.
If it is determined that there is no threat, the no parking overnight sign should come down and any needed modification to the town ordinance should be made to respond to the need for overnight parking at that location. |
Pizzaz
Supporter
Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 2648
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 11:50 am: | |
Art: Who needs to know.....  |
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