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tom
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Username: Tom

Post Number: 3930
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 12:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here it is, 12:40 in the morning and there's been a car alarm going off continuously for 40 minutes now, on a work/school night.

After ten minutes I did my good citizen duty and called the Maplewood PD. After another 20 minutes I called again. The gist of my conversation with the desk guy was, they had police in the area and "going to try and contact the owner." I suggested they tow the thing, and he said they couldn't if it was parked legally.

I inquired if an alarm going off all night wasn't against some kind of law, are they going to give these people a summons, and he said, believe it or not, it depends on whether they can contact the owner or not.

Do we have a noise ordinance or not? Is the Maplewood PD prepared to enforce it?

42 minutes and counting.

Maybe it's just the neighborhood, maybe we don't quite rate any kind of quality of life over in this part of town.

If it's going to be the law of the jungle, how about we start taking baseball bats and spray paint out to enforce some noise ordinances of our own?

44 minutes and counting.
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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13

Post Number: 3179
Registered: 1-2004


Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 1:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom
I don't know about Maplewood but in South Orange if your house alarm doesn't have an automatic shut off after a certain amount of time the police will cut the wires. I am pretty sure if a car alarm continues to ring there is some sort of penalty.

If it wasn't a malfunction, hopefully the alarm scared off whoever tried to break into it. I know with my car alarm, when it malfunctions it shuts itself off after 10 minutes or so. If someone tries to steal it, I don't think it resets itself.

Hope you were able to get back to sleep.
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tom
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Post Number: 3931
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 7:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After 56 minutes it finally went off for good. I'm glad the MPD was able to get to it (I assume it was them). JTA, what annoyed me the MOST was that the guy said there was nothing they could do other than contact the owner, including writing a summons. I find it unbelievable/unacceptable that this could go on until the car's battery died.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 10906
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 11:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Most alarms ring only for three minutes because so many municipalities limit alarms to that length. I wonder if Maplewood has such a law. I assumed it does, but reading this, maybe not.
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tom
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Post Number: 3936
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 11:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what was happening was, it would go through the three-minute (or whatever) cycle, stop for a few seconds, then start again.
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Joan
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 7:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did you recognize the car? Did you know who the owner was? If so, it might have been easier and more effective to call the owner yourself.
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Just The Aunt
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Post Number: 3196
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom R- I'm guessing the other tom didn't know who the car belonged to.

The other Tom
It's unreal nothing can be done when something like this happens. I don't uderstand why they would have to 'find the owner,' to write a ticket. When someone's parked illegally the police leave a ticket without locating the owner.

I'm guessing you don't know who owns the car, correct? Do you know what the offending car looks like? Maybe you could leave a note on the car letting the owner know about the problem with the alarm. If they are unaware of it, they'd be glad someone told them.

Hopefully the same problem won't occur tonight.
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Eightball
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Username: Eightball

Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2005


Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 10:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Quote:

So what is the Maplewood P.D for, anyway?




Eightballs!
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The Soulful Mr T
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Username: Howardt

Post Number: 1128
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eight balls? Who?
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ess
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Post Number: 485
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 10:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone he can?
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johnny
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Username: Johnny

Post Number: 1457
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Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 12:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

During Thanksgiving Weekend I watched a car drive around (illegal pass) two cars stopped at a red light, drive through the red light, and speed down Valley. All of this occured within 50 yards of a Maplewood police officer in his vehicle.

The cop did nothing. I couldn't believe it. If you tell me he didn't see it, then that means he wasn't looking at the road.
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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 11025
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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 7:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tom, did you ever find out if there is a noise ordinance and if the police could have done more? I don't think you got an answer here, but perhaps you could at the police department or from the TC.
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ajc
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Post Number: 4449
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Thursday, December 1, 2005 - 1:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom, excuse me for a slight drift on an issue that will only go away after the parking is returned to Elmwood Avenue...

A couple of years ago, when I fought for the litter, loitering, and noise ordinances to be enforced, in lieu of writing a NEW "No Stopping - No Standing" parking ordinance to prevent these same three abuses on Elmwood Avenue by employees of Winchester Gardens, I was pushed to the curb like an old shoe.

Actually, it was more like I didn't know what I was talking about! I was told the reasons for the new parking ban at that time was those three ordinances didn’t have any teeth in them. I think $1,000 fine and/or 6 months in jail sure sounds like teeth to me now!

FWIW, there is a noise ordinance, and a littering and loitering ordinance as well. The police can do more, and would do more if the township committee so directs! There in lies the problem.

Hey, maybe these new ordinances will change a lot of things around town? Maybe they can even return the parking to Elmwood Avenue next year? What do you think Vic, should we start the New Year, and your return to the TC off right?

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