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ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4773
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 1:20 pm: | 
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...it's one of those things where you get to think about who you are in the matter of your own life.
Tom, she is interchangable with he. You get to say what it is. I only brought the message, and only you can say what it means for you. If you're so into meanings, try these on for size...
God feeds everyone, but he doesn't put it in our mouth, or better yet, life is empty and meaningless, and it doesn't mean anything that it's empty and meaningless... Happy V-Day Tom to you and yours. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 12518
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 1:30 pm: |
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In that case, I agree. My own view is that family should come before career, but it ain't easy. I have turned down hugely higher paying jobs so that I can be with my kids.
Still, I have never seen anyone bring this up before when thinking about a candidate. And doesn't the candidate get to choose her own value system, without help from her potential voters?
It's moot now. Annette has said she is not a candidate.
Thanks for the well wishes. Same to you. Here's another: God will provide the food. We just have to come up with the money.
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ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4775
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 4:05 pm: |
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"Annette has said she is not a candidate."
Tom, you or Annette didn’t say why, but I guess it doesn’t matter now. Well, I believe congratulation and very best wishes are in order for Annette and her family. I have to agree with many others on this board who said, “She is smart, energetic and hard working”, which brings a thought by Bovee to mind…
Silence, when nothing need be said, is the eloquence of discretion...
BTW, because you have never seen anyone bring this up before, is probably because it never was presented like this before. I wonder what the left will think of next? 
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Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 12525
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 5:02 pm: |
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Come to think of it, I get annoyed when I make a complaint to a bureaucracy and they dismiss it as something they've never heard before.
Still, I think that when I go to the poll, I will pull the lever on the decision of who will serve the town best. I don't feel comfortable basic my decision on how to serve the candidates' kids best. It's too much responsibility. I'll leave that to the kids' parents. I believe in private decisions being left private. Does that make me a Republican?
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Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 7001
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 5:25 pm: |
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Whether or not a candidate has the motivation, time and energy to devote to the demands of public office is a valid concern. Being a member of the TC requires a great deal of time is not for the already overbooked person (man or woman) who does not have the ability to shift priorities so the electorate may be properly served.
That said, being a member of a two official household (assuming both are elected) is not in and of itself a disqualifying factor since as others have said there are many ways to successfully balance parenting and public service.
Other circumstances which can (but need not necessarily) impact on one's ability to serve in what is essentially a volunteer form of public service might include being the single wage earner in the family, having a seriously ill family and/or household member who relies on the office holder to serve as primary caregiver, having so many existing community service commitments (other than public office) that relatively little time remains for public service activities, having a chronic illness which impacts on a person's ability to carry out the responsibilities of their elected position, etc.
It is fair to ask about a person's available time and energy in the context of a political campaign but the question should be approached from a fair and reasoned perspective. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 12528
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 5:40 pm: |
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I spoke too soon. It is not true that Annette is not a candidate. I misinterpreted what I heard. I do not know if she will or won't be a candidate.
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Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10679
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 6:10 pm: |
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Look guys and gals, I am sorry I brought this up by mentioning the News Record article.
Basically, David and Annettes child care arrangements aren't anyones business other than for David and Annette. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4777
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 6:41 pm: |
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...Tom, how many times have I told you to slow down? Now look what you've gone and done!!!
I thought that was too easy and good to be true... and right after I said all those nice things about her too...
OK Annette, given our curly headed friend Tom doesn't seem to know what's going on, do you think you could favor us with the pleasure of your company? Are you, or are you not a candidate?
How about you Allison? You started this damn thread. Hello? Hello, Bobby Kennedy.... anyone? |
Prescott Perez-Fox
Citizen
Username: Scottperezfox
Post Number: 4
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 9:03 pm: |
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is this a serious thread about Democrats for the TC? If so, someone can email me and talk seriously, because I would definately consider it. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4810
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 2, 2006 - 1:56 am: |
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This is, or should I say was a very serious thread...
Listen, don't be bashful; tell us about yourself. We don't have to do e-mails, or go into any smokey rooms here on MOL. Everyone in this section is always open and friendly.
Trust me, give us your qualifications and tell us why you would consider running. Rest assured, we'll give you the straight skinny...
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ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4811
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 2, 2006 - 1:23 pm: |
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You're a little late for this year Prescott... but not to worry though, next year you can run against David...
Today's News Record reports that it's official. The Nominating Committee of the Maplewood Democratic Committee has made a good choice for the Township Committee Election for 2006.
Congratulations and good luck to Ken and Kathy...
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Brokeback Straw
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6896
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 2, 2006 - 9:14 pm: |
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David vs. Prescott Perez Fox..Based on what I know about the two of them, I would say I'll have to vote for Prescott. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10855
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 5:05 am: |
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Annette is quoted in the News Record article as considering running as an insurrgent. Come on, lady, be the first to announce your candidacy here on MOL. LOL |
Brokeback Straw
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6897
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 8:43 am: |
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This is bad news for Kathy. I don't think she can beat Annette. |
pseudonymous
Citizen
Username: Berry_festival
Post Number: 235
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 9:38 am: |
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Annette, please run. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4812
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 10:28 am: |
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Straw, you must be kidding! You say you don't THINK she can, so tell us what you're thinking. Tell us why she can't beat Annette... |
Brokeback Straw
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6904
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 12:29 pm: |
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Art,
Annette can sell sand in the desert. Kathy is a straight shooter and won't have a chance with the left wingers here in town who are into style, more so than substance. Ken can play the game as well so he'll make out..
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ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4813
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 5:35 pm: |
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Straw, lets talk about some facts, not about who's playing games...
I agree with you that Kathy is a straight shooter. IMHO, she's all about business, not games. And, if you think Annette can sell sand in the desert, it will be Kathy who bags it, prices it, and makes sure the money gets collected...
The woman is a professional. She is experienced, organized, and dependable, and has given this town many years of dedicated service not only on the Township Committee, but also on the CBAC, which she was also a past Chairperson.
As for the left-wingers, they’re not in control of the Township Committee; and then there's the fact that the regular Democratic Party endorsed her for re-election.
I don’t think anyone in town believes the regular Democrats are that stupid to endorse someone and not support them to the max, do you? |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 14662
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 7:22 pm: |
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Annette isn't a straight shooter? Please.
She will tell you exactly what she thinks every time. And she'll call you an idyut if she has to.
She would be terrific on the TC. |
Candlemaker
Citizen
Username: Candlemaker
Post Number: 8
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 8:24 pm: |
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Isn't it true that Art- a lifelong ardent Republican- supports Kathy Ken and Fred (Democrats)because they are championing his B&B ordinance? Annette DePalma on the other hand is for Maplewood- she can not be bought and is for the good of the entire Township. Because of Kathy Ken and Fred- Art and Libby are able to win out over the 'evil neighbors" -- they can run their hotel any way they like and make loads of money!
Congratulations Art! You are da man! You hung on there and did your thing! Never mind that your place never was a hotel or B&B- you actually never proved that you were ever grandfathered- hell
Fred is from town and he knows the truth- but you won-!!! Wonderfull! |
anon
Supporter
Username: Anon
Post Number: 2626
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 9:11 pm: |
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She will tell you exactly what she thinks every time. And she'll call you an idyut if she has to.
And I can attest that sbenois knows that from first hand experience! |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 14663
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 9:12 pm: |
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Absolutely. I was there when she said it to you. |
Brokeback Straw
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6907
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 9:54 pm: |
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That candle maker post was strange. Anyhow, moving on, and to answer Art's question.
The thing is this. Vic knocked off Ian, a very viable opponent. Kathy is similar to Ian and Annette has learned under the comeback kid himself, Vic Deluca.
I see a female version of Ian vs. Vic once again. Those results surprised us as well. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4814
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 1:03 am: |
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...up yours Candlemaker!
Shows what you know dummy… The truth is, Ken was the original deciding vote, (4 against and 3 in favor) and the reason I originally lost before the Board of Adjustment. He was never in favor of "MY" bed and breakfast. I even sued him in Superior Court over it. The man is principled, and his integrity unquestioned. If I were Dave I’d kick you off the Board for implying he is anything less, dirt bag….
I support Ken and Kathy not because they’re Democrats, and not because they favor an ordinance to regulate B&B services for local residents, but because they’re the best qualified for the job.
So who is Annette DePalma anyway? What are her credentials? She hasn’t even announced if she will run yet? How can she really be considered good for the entire town when she never even submitted her name to the Democratic Party for their consideration? Anyone who runs now in the Democratic Primary against Ken and Kathy are just spoilers, not real candidates. They have to be in someone else’s pocket, puppets if you will…
Listen, will you guys in her fan club cut out all the stupid little platitudes, and supply us with some logical common sense reasons why she is qualified other than she would make a good lackey for Vic and David... And, what the hell is a Idyut “S”?
BTW, Straw you can't compare Ian and Vic, any more than you can Kathy and Annette. Damn man, give us some facts. Tell me what she's done to compare to Ken and Kathy? Has Annette received any community recognition for her volunteer services over the years, like say the Maple Leaf Award as they both did, or any other achievements to show her commitment to our town?
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sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 14671
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 6:31 am: |
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it's eskimo for "stoopid" |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4815
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 1:08 pm: |
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OK, enough of all this empty rhetoric from you guys… This only proves the theory that, Idyut's are, as Idyut's do, starting with all of you!
That's right guys; you all must be a bunch of Idyut’s if you can’t produce the goods.
For the 10th time, prove to us Annette is more qualified than Kathy or Ken?
Stop the rhetoric, we want to see the facts.
Show us the beef, not the bull...
It’s time to put up, or shut up!!! 
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sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 14672
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 1:14 pm: |
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Arturo,
Do you like grapes? |
anon
Supporter
Username: Anon
Post Number: 2627
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 2:35 pm: |
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I believe that the Primary is not until June. Any registered Dem has the right to file petitions and run. Any registered Republican has the right to file petitions and run in the Republican Primary. Once someone decides to run he or she can set forth his or her credentials and platform. Annette DePalma is a highly educated, highly intelligent involved citizen, whether she chooses to run or not.
Art, as one of the leaders of the Republican Party are you saying that the Republicans should not run any candidate this year because Ken and Kathy are so well qualified? |
Nohero
Supporter
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5126
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 2:56 pm: |
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Anon, you have it all wrong.
The nomination will be decided here on MOL, with only surrogates, and not the candidates themselves, taking part.
The vote's just for show.  |
Brokeback Straw
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6914
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 2:57 pm: |
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Art,
I will support Kathy unless I see a Republican with an outstanding chance of winning which I highly doubt. That said, I think Kathy is in trouble if Annette runs and once again it's not because of her performance. Annette brings a dynamic that will attrack voters. The same dynamic the attracts voters to Vic. So, again pound for pound Kathy is probably better suited for the tc. However, once again when you deal with a liberal voter base, qualifications often come in a distant second to image.
Now, how does Kathy address this? For starters she will need to become much more vocal during TC meetings. She can't expect to run and win again because Fred has selected her. She needs to create an identity of her own. Now, all this said, I believe any TC member who follows Fred's lead is making the correct decision because Fred is brilliant. So, again tough spot for her. Do what's best for Maplewood, or do what's best to win an election.
Sadly, David's willing to bury the best candidates we have such as Kathy all so he can walk around and tell people he's the Mayor.
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anon
Supporter
Username: Anon
Post Number: 2628
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 4:21 pm: |
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Nohero: Thank you. I always find your posts very educational.
I guess I might as well participate. Would those of you who support Ms. Leventhal's candidacy please tell us what you see as her major accomplishments during her first term which entitle her to a second term?
Would those of you who support Mr. Petis please do likewise? Thank you. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4816
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 4, 2006 - 5:58 pm: |
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Dear “S”, Grapes, yes… sour grapes, no! I wish you all would stop beating around the “BUSH”, no pun intended. Will any of you ever say what you mean, and mean what you say?
Anon, don't give us this, "I might as well partisipate" crap, like you plan on adding something of value. And, give up your silly poll until you answer my questions first.
FWIW, I have no doubt as you say, “Annette DePalma is a highly educated, highly intelligent involved citizen, whether she chooses to run or not.” So, given she’s clearly a lady in waiting, and is being coached by the professionals, why don’t you tell us something about her other than she’s intelligent and involved. Listen, with you being anonymous and Annette being invisible, you two remind me of the blind leading the deaf... Stop giving us the Bull when we’re looking for the Beef!
Listen, FWIW, given the free-wheeling spending that already goes on on the school board, I can’t imagine that many voters would want any one family with 100 percent say over the budget anyway. BTW Straw, Annette on her own is no dynamic to attract voters. The dynamics if any will come from Vic.
As for the Primary in June, less than 90 days away, both parties have until the middle of April to file petitions and register. However, the point I made was any Democrat who waits to the last minute is a spoiler and just another lackey for Vic and David.
As one of the more vocal and active members of the Republican Party, last year I recommended that the Republicans not run any candidates. However, after the Primary I supported Bart and Fred.
This year I feel the same way, and depending on the outcome of the Primary, "if" a spoiler was to win over Kathy or Ken, I might even consider running again myself... that is if it’s alright with you Anon?
With a three to one Democratic majority, unless the Republican Party in town can come up with some young and very talented people, our only hope is to run candidates who are willing to raise some issues that may grab enough public attention to force the Democrats to adopt them themselves.
Lets be real, this isn't Notre Dame, and there's not that many Republicans around named Rudy! |
Candlemaker
Citizen
Username: Candlemaker
Post Number: 9
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 5, 2006 - 3:06 pm: |
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Hey there Art- you can not convince me that your support is based on any other motive other then your own personal benefit- You are standing to profit by the support of two council reps that blindly follow Fred ( a reformed Republican much like yourself)
You can tell me about it person though-- I am scheduled to attend an overnight conference soon at LesSaisons and am looking forward to it! |
Brokeback Straw
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6916
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 5, 2006 - 4:37 pm: |
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Heavens no! An American voting for a candidate they believe can improve their lives??
My lord, what next?? CAPITALISM??? |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4821
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 5, 2006 - 5:14 pm: |
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Hey there Phil, how’s your candle hanging pal- You're right, no one can convince you of anything, and who’s trying? Worms have never made good conservationists...
Your public hostility and mean-spirited behavior is motivated by your own personal hatreds based on imagined causes. You can’t stand seeing anyone happy and successful; especially being you and your wife are such miserable and lonely losers.
BTW, in case you didn’t notice, you’ve hijacked a thread and have made some disparaging comments about people who have nothing to do with your personal hatred for me.
I can’t speak for Dave, but IMHO, both of your intrusions into this thread so far have also been vailed personal attacks against members of the Township Committee and shouldn’t come from someone using a pseudonym like Candlemaker...
Listen, we can talk more about this in person over a cup of coffee and a stack of hot pancakes when you come over. I’ll look forward to it!  |
Prescott Perez-Fox
Citizen
Username: Scottperezfox
Post Number: 5
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 12:05 pm: |
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Hey. Sorry I haven't been on this board in a few days - didn't realise this thread would blow up the way it has done.
Ajc - thanks for the update about time and so forth. Unfortunate, but then again it was a hasty assembled plan. I should probably pay attention for a bit and get all the info before I decide to put myself up for any official posts in the town gov't. We'll see.
About me in three sentences: I'm a Maplewood native who went K-12 in the school district and still resides here. I've recently finished my Master's Degree and am at the very start of my career in advertising and design. I inherited my father's sense of politcal and civic duty and thus looking to get involved in local affairs. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4823
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 2:52 pm: |
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Welcome to your involvement in the New Maplewood, Maplewood on Line...
I also went through the school system, Seth Boyden, Maplewood Junior High, and Columbia, class of 1958. It sounds like your career will be off to a good start with a Master's Degree behind you. Good luck and best wishes.
If I may suggest something, as long as you're at the very start of your career, I'd like to invite you to join the Maplewood Chamber, the Concierge Company, the CBAC, SOMBI, and the Maplewood Rotary. You sound like you’re on the right track; real civic minded people do get involved in local affairs. I believe the ones I recommended are among the best for a young guy starting his own business. Please feel free to give me a call, 973-699-8276 cell, or home 973-762-8518 and I will be happy to introduce you to any or all of these organizations.
As for your political aspirations, I afraid I can’t help you. I'm a Republican who would like to see non-partisan elections in town. I believe we need switch hitters in office who are willing to step up to the left or right of the plate, and do what’s best for ALL of us in town, NOT just for the party they support.
IMHO, local politics in Maplewood sucks at the moment. The republicans who are few in number lack strong, young, local leadership, and are mostly ignored as players on different Boards and Committee’s of importance in town. Meanwhile, as you must know, the Democrats who have dominated our community over the past couple decades, can’t seem to get it together. You can see from this thread that things are shaping up for yet another expensive Primary fight. I recommend you don’t get sucked in to being a spoiler if you do get involved. As you can see, the consequent would be to have me on your back, that is politically of course...
Any who... again, good luck and best wishes, and call me if you’re interested in getting involved.
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