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Pizzaz
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Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 3244
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 1:36 pm: | 
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Robyn, welcome to South Orange and MOL. We're glad you're here! |
Jersey Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 276
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Friday, March 3, 2006 - 7:59 pm: |
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Robyn, Welcome.
I take it you're not a musician.
J.B. |
robyn brody-kaplan
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Username: Rbk
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 8:20 pm: |
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Not a talented one at that but a lover of music!
What makes me not a musician? We listen to music pretty loud in our house! |
Jersey Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 296
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 8:38 pm: |
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So far everyone who's complaining about SHU is a musician.
Therefore, not complaining = not a musician.
It's funny if you're closely reading my posts and ignoring the other distracting posts that have nothing to do with me or my thoughts.
J.B. |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4231
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 8:41 pm: |
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What were the 'negatives' to the ordinance?
Thanks!
Oh, and if my memory serves me correctly, one of the gripes about the meeting was it being at the Community Center, which was too far for the students. |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4232
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 6, 2006 - 9:17 pm: |
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Whatever Kristen. I've lived here all my life and I care about the community in which I grew up in. Like most of the other students at any college, the SHU students are here for 4-6 years.
If calling the police and tossing some of these students in a holding cell for repeatedly creating a disturbance; especially if they're caught drinking underage get's the message across, so be it. I think after a handful of students are hit with fines and have to spend a couple of days behind bars, maybe that will get the message across. That IS proactive because it sends a clear message to other students.
How does the VLC have any control over a student living with his family who has an out of control party? It's unlikely they can do anything. Therefore, technically the students renting are treated differently. Two different standards.
As for replying to the message of the SHUfly, I didn't see it. FWIW my father died recently so my time was occupied. If I spent a couple hours searching for your post, I'm sure I'd find it. You might have to give me a few days because there's a good chance by this time tomorrow I'll be in the hospital. If I can get online with my laptop, I will.
The shuttle isn't the success you thought it would be. A suggestion of how to increase readership was offered, and shot down.
I still find it pathetic a bunch of college students are incapable of walking from the campus to the Village or the train. Lots of 11 year old kids walk from the area behind SH to the Middle School and Ridgewood. When you think about it, that's further then the campus to the train. They walk in the rain, snow, and heat, lugging backpacks.
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AntoninaKC
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Username: Antoninakc
Post Number: 188
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 1:29 am: |
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Jta, I find it hard to believe you were too occupied with other things to read and post on MOL. Seems to me I see your name more often and in the most threads than any other MOLer.
You frequently mention that you attended SHU. In light of that fact, you have a first hand view of what college kids are like. Im sure it wasnt too long ago that S.O residents were stereotyping you as just another drunk and disordly idiot simply because you were in college. As you know not everyone at SHU is guilty of the crimes you and various others accuse them of.
Further, it isnt up to you to decide punishments for college kids. "spending a couple of days behind bars" is not a fair punishment. Maybe we should lock up parents who beat their kids for a few days- see if giving fines to a few people will cause the whole world to realize the "message".
It would be great if you could keep an open mind and recognize something (ANYTHING!) positive. Attacking Kristen, Sheena, BMO, Jen Lackie and the other student leaders who post openly on this board, why not congratulate them for the things they DO get accomplished. Kristen did not come up with, nor does she run SHUFLY. Telling her on this board that it didnt work out is not the way to voice your 'concern' for the shuttle. In my opinion, SHUFLY is geared toward resident students who need rides to the downtown area. Obviously since ridership is low- those lazy kids must be walking their pathetic behinds down the street helping your local economy. WOW!
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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4243
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 6:21 am: |
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Ant=
Highly unlikely as I don't drink. |
Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2508
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 12:45 pm: |
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Antonina, while I don't disagree with your overall message, when you write:
Quote:Further, it isnt up to you to decide punishments for college kids. "spending a couple of days behind bars" is not a fair punishment. Maybe we should lock up parents who beat their kids for a few days- see if giving fines to a few people will cause the whole world to realize the "message".
you show a firm lack of understanding of the real world.
College kids don't (and shouldn't) get special treatment under the law.
And parents who beat their kids should get sent to prison, and get beaten on by someone much bigger than them. Most often, they do.
I don't see the relationship, though, between drunk college kids and child-beating parents. Are you trying to make some kind of link? |
Joe Krause
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Username: Wkrause3
Post Number: 17
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 9:03 pm: |
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The bottom line is that it seems that those who are not "older and wiser" have lost touch with your roots. We were (or still are "kids") who all have done things that might not be great in the eyes of any community.
I dont think that jail is the proper solution. We all know the town gives out heavy fines for those who are in violation of the town's strick noise policy. $200 for the first up to the $1000 for the second.
I dont care who the "kid" is thats a nice chunck of change and it WILL teach them a lesson.
JTA just take a step back realize that you too were once a student and realize there are much bigger things to worry about.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 314
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 9:05 pm: |
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I'm a college student right now...and I can tell you that no matter the fine...it's ok because someone can bail them out of that easy
its harder to get bailed out of jail..that WOULD teach them a lesson |
AntoninaKC
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Username: Antoninakc
Post Number: 190
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 9:17 pm: |
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Rastro, the point of my example was to show how ridiculus it is for a random citizen to suggest punishments simply because they think it would be best. To respond to your assumption that I believe college kids are above the law- I do not (in any way) support underage drinking, destruction of property, loud parties etc. The point I am trying to convey is that no matter how many committees, neighborhood associations and disciplinary figures get involved- nothing will help deter or take care of personal problems better than calling the cops or talking to the students in question.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2518
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:21 am: |
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To be honest, I don't see how talking to the students will have any real effect. Granted, I do not live near the University. And it's been almost 20 years since I've been a college student. But I just don't see a conversation changing the way anyone acts. Fines? Possibly, if they are painful enough. Jail? Maybe overnight for D&D. How about real criminal records? Not just fines or overnight jail time, but actual records? Given that almost every employer does background checks which include criminal background checks, that might be incentive enough.
I would guess that would require a change to the statutes. Probably at the county or state level. |
Politicalmon
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Username: Politicalmon
Post Number: 108
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 2:51 pm: |
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Old & Grey,
When I received the crime stats on South Orange 13-14 years ago - I walked into SOPD and asked to see the Captain. He was extremely cordial and provided me with a print out which showed a breakdown in crime and neighborhoods. Believe me I was looking for the correlation between proximity to Newark/Irvington/Orange and crime I expected this was the reason the houses in Montrose were so undervalued. When the information did not supported this false perception I was surprised - Crime is homogenous throughout the community - the probability is that crime can and will occur anywhere - there is no value add living in Newstead - In reality I saw buying in Newstead a detriment given the higher taxes which correlate to lower housing prices - fast-forward 14 years and it appears my due diligence paid off. We've been here 13 years, our house and cars have never been touched - except for some SHU pledges that I had to chase down the block - I'm hoping they come back - I'm faster this year...
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DRJ
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Username: Alaska
Post Number: 57
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:37 pm: |
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The upcoming revaluation should fix the tax disparity between Montrose and Newstead. |
Spitz
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Username: Doublea
Post Number: 1494
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 5:14 pm: |
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I had mentioned the enabling legislation which permits a municipality to make arrests in a private residence for serving alcohol to minors.
All of the towns which host student rentals in the area surrounding Monmouth University have adopted these ordinances. The ordinances provide for increasing fines for the first and second offenses, and loss of a driving license for the third conviction.
I have a very good friend who is a municipal judge in one of the towns. In the past, he had been reluctant to take away drivers' licenses, and had handed out fines and community service.
My wife and I had dinner with a group of our friends from the shore last Saturday, including the municiapl judge. He told me that things have really gotten out of hand this year and he's suspended a few drivers' licenses.
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SO1969
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Username: Bklyn1969
Post Number: 222
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 5:45 pm: |
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I think there can be 2 ways of interpreting proximity to Newark/Irvington.
1. SO centric - Montrose vs. Newstead
2. Northern NJ big picture
What I've heard anecdotally and seen in the papers tends to support what Politicalmon found in the stats ... the criminal element is capable of driving to Newstead or even to Millburn and Short Hills to steal a car - anyone else see report of carjacking at the Short Hills Mall?
Crime is (I'd guess) higher closer in to Newark from a broad northern NJ perspective. I'd think my car would be safer in Watchung or Basking Ridge, but I don't want to live out there. |
Kristen Williamson
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Username: Kris219
Post Number: 180
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:59 am: |
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Wow JTA,
Let's try this again.
1. Look up the definition of proactive and reactive.
2. You still didn't answer my question...Where did I ever say that the village was too far for students (or anyone) to walk? You're arguing against a statement that I never made...
3. Ant said, "Im sure it wasnt too long ago that S.O residents were stereotyping you as just another drunk and disordly idiot simply because you were in college." Once again, you're missing the point JTA. If you drink or not, you were still stereotyped as one who did.
4. What resonable suggestion was shot down for the SHUfly?
Think before you reply, please.
(PS. Brian and I did come up with the SHUfly, but we do not run it.)
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composerjohn
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Username: Composerjohn
Post Number: 757
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 1:05 pm: |
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take it outside you two...
[seriously, is it possible to stop the bickering? It isn't productive, and is a real drag to read. You both are nice people - why don't you meet at Starbucks for a friendly discussion of the issues?]
EDIT: any news on the VLC meeting with SO residents? A few weeks I suggested holding a meeting on March 25. Is anything scheduled? Please update. Thanks. |
Sheena Collum SHU
Citizen
Username: Sheena_collum
Post Number: 592
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 1:15 pm: |
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Hey Composerjohn,
I'm going to be doing a presentation to the BOT tonight along with the VLC on our off-campus initiatives, etc.
As soon as we have a solid date for the meeting between students and residents, I will let you know. We just need to solidify the location and time that we're choosing. |
composerjohn
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Username: Composerjohn
Post Number: 758
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 1:17 pm: |
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Cool, thanks! I look forward to the meeting. |
Lucy
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Username: Lucy
Post Number: 3133
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 1:29 pm: |
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Shee nice picture you look great! |
Sheena Collum SHU
Citizen
Username: Sheena_collum
Post Number: 593
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 2:13 pm: |
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Lu - I went blonder this weekend (as you like...)  |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4301
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 2:51 pm: |
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No Kristen
I was stereotyped as someone who drank.
You know what they say about poeple who assume, don't you? |
Stevef
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Username: Stevef
Post Number: 174
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 2:55 pm: |
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I think you are missing AntoninaKC's entire point. |
Kristen Williamson
Citizen
Username: Kris219
Post Number: 181
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 4:06 pm: |
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I wrote "If you drink or not, you were still stereotyped as one who did."
You replied with "No Kristen, I was stereotyped as someone who drank."
So I'm assuming that you don't think before you post. That's clearly a correct assumption. I think you're right, Stevef.
I really am sorry John, but when someone thinks she can put words in my mouth and then go around bad-mouthing me and Sheena and the University...I'm going to make it clear to everyone that this person is wrong. I'm not going to support lies, especially malicious ones that are directed towards me. I'm not one to sit back and let those type of people thrive. I have no tolerance for that immaturity... |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4306
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 7:31 pm: |
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My 2:51pm post should have read "I was'NT stereotyped as someone who drank... |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4307
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 7:34 pm: |
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Steve-
And what point was that? |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4308
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 7:46 pm: |
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kristen-
Who is badmouthing you? Nobody. I asked about the shuttle because I had heard the ridership wasn't at all what you expected. The week you had the most riders was the week NJ Transit had some kind of special, no? How is suggesting maybe letting the Middle School Students living behind SH take advantage of the shuttle in the mornings? It would increase ridership; thus having more funds to run it. It would also be nice if the Senior Citizens living in the area of SH could take advantage of the shuttle.
There you go assuming again. And like I said, nobody ever assumed I was a drunk college student. So you quote "If you drink or not, you were still stereotyped as one who did..." is, hmmm, let's see, maybe I should call it a lie...
That said I will not be responding to anymore of your posts. I stand my thought the police should be called for out of control parties, students or not. IF after the police have been to the resident a time or two (or whatever number they decide) and the behavior continues, even with fines, I think a night in the South Orange lockup might do them some good. But, hey, that's just my opinion. |
Stevef
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Username: Stevef
Post Number: 176
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 9:22 pm: |
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Quote:My 2:51pm post should have read "I was'NT stereotyped as someone who drank...
that changes the meaning of your post fairly substantially, no? You now say you meant the opposite of what you said. Now you probably understand my comment. |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4310
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:30 pm: |
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Steve-
It's not that I now say I meant the opposite of what I said (originally posted). I guess If I put a question mark at the end of the original post it would have had a different meaning as well.
Sometimes my fingers don't type as fast as I try to think and I make mistakes (lots of them). Another problem is, well nevermind. If there were people who thought I drank, I never knew about it.
I know I got my fair share of being teased for not drinking while in Junior High and High School, especially when my brothers and sisters all drank. It didn't matter that much in college because I chose not to hang out in the pub. I was too involved in a number of campus activities to care what people thought. Sure friends of mine drank, but they didn't care I didn't. |
Kristen Williamson
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Username: Kris219
Post Number: 182
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:00 pm: |
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So still, what was the point of that post, because you have yet to reply to my question...Where did I ever say that the village was too far for students (or anyone) to walk? You claimed I said it, yet have failed to back yourself up after I have asked many times.
As for the suggestions for the SHUfly, there is no proplem with turning them down. I would rather wait until it was a permanent part of our University before expanding it and making promises to others, especially the youth and senior community. I could only imagine how quickly people would jump to call us horrible people if it didn't work out. Let's secure it on campus before expanding...you can't build on an incomplete foundation, same thing with the SHU ID cards.
Jta-I don't care if you reply or not, because the readers are seeing how void your posts are, and at this point, that is more valuable than a reply, as I've learned. (Now, the funny part is, that I don't even have to lie in my post to make a point.)
So on that note, you write that "nobody ever assumed I was a drunk college student". Are you serious? Every college student, especially SHU students in SO, are stereotyped as drunk college students. I don't think you were the one and only student who never got that stereotype by at least one person. That's not a lie, btw. I'd be reluctant to search for someone who disagrees with me because I think it would be impossible. You make assumptions about students, yet no one has ever made an assumption about you when you were a student? That's so ironic. It's not the SHU community that makes those assumtions- it is the people removed from campus life.
So here is the final answer to the thread...To live next to the University (not as a student), means you are either
a. a good person who has no problems, but if you do, then you are positive and receptive to those trying to selflessly help. You also have the benefit of the resources at the University within reach.
or
b. you can choose to be angry and negative, and then refuse and attack those there for your benefit.
I know there are a lot of type "A"s out there, like composerjohn, but it seems that the few "B"s make a lot of noise. I look forward to meeting more of the former.
Can we end this thread? |
AntoninaKC
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Username: Antoninakc
Post Number: 198
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:03 pm: |
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Stevef and Kristen- thanks for getting my drift.
I never said that JTA drank in college or at any other time in her life. That info isnt even relevant to the topic.
Also, I think Kristen wrapped this thread up nicely with her last post.
Fishface, Hope this thread answered your question! |
Joe Krause
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Username: Wkrause3
Post Number: 19
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:08 pm: |
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Wow, Kristin I now know we go to a Catholic School because my prayers have been answered, your comment was the exact thing I have been thinking everytime I read certain people's posts.
I don't know if there are any Ali G fans out there but in his words,
"Big up yourself, Boo ya kisha" |
Spitz
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Username: Doublea
Post Number: 1498
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:13 pm: |
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Mrs. Spitz happened to be watching the BOT meeting tonight when Sheena was speaking. Mrs. S had never heard of Sheena before and knew nothing about her. Mrs. S asks if she's going to law school. I say "how can you tell?" Mrs. S says she's about one-half hour away. |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4311
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:51 pm: |
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Spitz?
What does "she's about one half hour away mean?"
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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4312
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:59 pm: |
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Kristen you said
>>>"you have yet to reply to my question...Where did I ever say that the village was too far for students (or anyone) to walk? You claimed I said it, yet have failed to back yourself up after I have asked many times..."<<<
Well I don't think it was 'many' times you asked me to provide this information. You happened to asked during the time my father was in the hospital dying; then I was sick for a while.
But, you've annoyed me to the point I made sure to find the time tonight to 'back up' what I posted. So, here you go Kristen!
Here is one of the posts where you mention 'it's too far for the SH students to walk to South Orange Village.' Hhhmmmm, what were you saying about me looking like a liar?
I'll be waiting for you to apologize. But I won't loose any sleep over waiting. It's almost Midnight and I'm still fighting the nasty infection in my leg; so I do need to get some sleep. 5:30am comes pretty quick...
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 1:32 pm:
Stuart0628, thank you for that wonderful information. People have to realize that we ask for a Jitney, not because students are too lazy to take the "10-minute walk from campus". I don't think there are many SO residents who would be willing to walk 10 minutes in the rain, in the dark, or even better, in the rain carrying a suitcase from the train station. It is close enough to enjoy a stroll on a lovely day, but it is not reasonable to think students or faculty would be willing to walk in the cold or at night. I am quite fearless sometimes, but I am not entirely comfortable with walking back from the station at night after a show in the city. Instead of grabbing coffee and desert from the Goat, I am more concerned with getting back ASAP in the dark and cold weather. I understand that it isn't the same in every situation, but that is just one example. |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4313
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:00 am: |
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BTW-
It was also your very first post on MOL you said this... |
Sheena Collum SHU
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Username: Sheena_collum
Post Number: 594
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:20 am: |
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Spitz, lol, tell your wife I am going to law school and I'd be curious to know how she knew as I don't quite grasp the "She's about one half hour away" (I hope it was a compliment as oppose to another dig at lawyers.. )
Sidenote: I hope people who have had off-campus student problems were able to tune in tonight to our presentation. If you have suggestions please contact us at villageliaisons@shu.edu. |
Kristen Williamson
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Username: Kris219
Post Number: 183
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 7:10 am: |
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JTA-
I think I asked 3 or 4 times and on more than one thread. Like Antonina said, I find it funny that you posted on a bunch of other threads at the time but didn't have time to reply to me.
Your reply still isn't sufficient. Another quote of mine, from the SHUfly thread..."It is too far for ANYONE to walk to the village when the weather isn't too pleasant, or at night or when you're carrying luggage to visit your family for a holiday.
So, again, when did I say "it's too far for the college students to walk to the Village"?"
And you even quoted me in saying, "students are too lazy to take the 10-minute walk from campus".
Did you even read what you posted? I never said that on any ordinary day, that it is too far. We're talking about extenuating circumstances here. I didn't realize that middle school students walked home from school at 11 PM. And about the weather...grade school students don't have a choice, but from what I recall, most schools don't have school in the blizzard. I also didn't realize that those students have suitcases for their school books. Jeez, grade-school life has gotten really rough...
So yes, you still made a false claim. And no, you're not getting an appology, you just made a poor argument, sorry. |
Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 3597
Registered: 5-2001
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Sheena: You, Jen, and your group were terrific at last night's BOT Mtg. It's so interesting to note the difference in tone of response which polished, positive, and cogent presentations can elicit from the BOT, as opposed to the angry, flailing, and random remonstrances of some others who appeared at the podium.
Keep up the good work, and stay actively engaged with our Trustees. They can't help but respect what you're trying to do for your constituency.
-s. |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4316
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 7:48 am: |
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Whatever Kristen. I think the post of yours I referenced speaks for itself. As I pointed out, it was your first post. Funny, it wasn't even in response to a post of mine.
This is what Ant said >>>"Jta, I find it hard to believe you were too occupied with other things to read and post on MOL. Seems to me I see your name more often and in the most threads than any other MOLer."<<<
Maybe Ant can clear up what he meant? I didn't take as meaning at that time; but as in general.
Like someone said several months ago when there was no response from a member of the VLC to a question, sometimes someone doesn't get to read all the threads ever day. (not sure of the exact words). Do you read every single post every day? |
MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 3523
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 8:05 am: |
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I agree with Soda that Sheena, Jen & company were terrific. However, I can't imagine why Soda is too lazy to get up off the couch & come support them in person.
Then again, when you take 7 years unemployed and writing a novel that still is just "Coming Soon", I guess it can be understood why Soda is so busy. |
jayjay
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Username: Jayjayp
Post Number: 471
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 8:19 am: |
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I can't remember a time when Seton Hall students were so willing to take the initiative to improve the "town/gown" relationships. Sheena et all were quite impressive in their appearance at last night's BOT meeting.
As I watched the proceedings, I found it particularly interesting that Sheena practically had to plead with the BOT's and Mr. Gross for a "process" for handling student complaints which come to the attention of the Public Safety Committee. Was it Gross, maybe Rosen, who said that there is no process, and that the committee provides residents a chance to vent. I thought citizens would actually think that their elected officials were supposed to DO SOMETHING, and not simply provide a forum for venting. The students had it right, and at least those on camera last night, appeared sincere in trying to imporve things. I wish I could have seen as much competence from our BOT's. |
AntoninaKC
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Username: Antoninakc
Post Number: 199
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 9:44 am: |
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I remember not too long ago reading Kristens pleas for information. ("Where did I ever say that the village was too far for students (or anyone) to walk?") I noticed that you posted elsewhere and responded to other people's comments. Quite simply it was an observation.
We could spend hours analyzing and arguing over the true meaning of Kristens post... whether or not snowstorms, the middle of the night, rainy days etc have any effect on whether a person(young or old, in groups or alone) would want to walk long distances. The reality is: who cares? All thoughts are subjective but when it comes down to it I do not believe she meant that SHU students refuse to walk into town on a beautiful sunny afternoon. |
Kristen Williamson
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Username: Kris219
Post Number: 184
Registered: 4-2005
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Yes, I read the threads that I am interested in or are a part of, such as the two threads where I directed the same question to you at least three times.
Yes, that first post wasn't in response to yours...so what's your point. If you're saying that my first post is still in line with my current views/beliefs, then you're correct.
"All thoughts are subjective but when it comes down to it I do not believe she meant that SHU students refuse to walk into town on a beautiful sunny afternoon." Thank you Antonina, at least I know I'm not the ONLY one who understands this simple point. You're great, as usual.
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