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mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 2646
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 10:12 pm: | 
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Richard: If you begged to differ, then you should have filed a report. Next time, please ask your wife to call when she sees a fight. Perhaps the police could get there, break it up and give a warning to the kids (at the least).
The cops are not understaffed - just another one of your incorrect perceptions. |
cmontyburns
Citizen
Username: Cmontyburns
Post Number: 1776
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 10:22 pm: |
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"Now we all used to fight in school on occasion, but twice in a row? Yet another series of unfortuante events? Come on apologists, lets hear your story."
I've lived here two years and never seen anyone fight anyone. I can only conclude -- using the same statistical logic you employ -- that there has never been a street fight in South Orange.
Then again, I live in Montrose, which -- despite what I see with my own eyes each day -- you claim is a cesspool of humanity, about to be engulfed by Newark any day now. One of my neighbors just put his house on the market at one of the highest prices ever for a South Orange home, if not the highest. You should attend the open house and warn the folks from Manhattan (where there is no crime) about the impending danger, before they write all those 0's on a check.
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Popo
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Username: Popo
Post Number: 63
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 10:58 pm: |
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NORA, the shooting wasn't reported anywhere on MOL. That must mean it didn't happen! (Actually there was a blurb about it in this morning's Star Ledger.)
Richard, if you feel you were given the brush-off by the police dispatcher, you might consider calling the desk sergeant or the police chief. It is the job of the police to investigate incidences of disorderly conduct. Don't feel you're "bothering" them.
Also, your wife can still file a citizen's report. She should include as many details as possible. It may not help anything immediately, but it becomes a matter of public record. |
Popo
Citizen
Username: Popo
Post Number: 64
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 11:31 pm: |
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I don't know what happened in this case. I wasn't there. But based on reports I've heard about misbehaving kids in the S.O. library, and on what I've seen with my own eyes at the Maplewood library and in front of my own house (I live adjacent to CHS), I'm not so quick to dismiss Richard's concerns.
If you have not personally witnessed a fight like the one described, I can see how it might seem unbelievable.
Some of the behavior I have observed is egregious. I'm disturbed by the impulse to excuse it as "just" some rowdy kids fighting on the way home from school.
Suppose it were your child "settling a score" by fighting in a public parking lot. How would you feel then? How would you want the situation handled? Would you want the community to look the other way? Is this really our most caring response?
We are doing these kids, as well as our community, a grave disservice if we permit this behavior to continue.
I think the parents and the middle school need to be informed immediately of this problem. The quickest way to do this is to involve the police. |
Ace789nj
Citizen
Username: Ace789nj
Post Number: 294
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:10 am: |
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MROSNER-The cops are not understaffed - just another one of your incorrect perceptions
Uh, exactly which dept are you talking about? |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4260
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:51 am: |
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I saw it in the Law and ORder section of the Ledger. (Never heard of the bar mentioned)
Here it is
Police hunt gunman who shot 2 in bar
MAPLEWOOD: Police are still looking for a man who shot two people following a fight at B. Hathaway's Sports on early Saturday morning. Authorities said a fight broke out at the crowded bar around 1 a.m.
Policed Capt. Walter Mueller said he did not know what the fight was about. The gunman shot Christopher Phillips, 19, of Irvington and Taliah Young, 23, of Newark.
Young was a bystander who was grazed by a bullet in her back. She was taken to University Hospital where she was treated and released. Phillips, was involved in the fight, said Mueller.
Phillips was shot several times and also taken to University Hospital, where he was listed in serious condition yesterday. Mueller said police do not have a description of the shooter and do not know if he fled on foot or in a vehicle.
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NORA
Citizen
Username: Norav
Post Number: 149
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 8:41 am: |
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B. Hathaway's, I believe is just across from the new police station on Springfield Ave |
Phenixrising
Citizen
Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1458
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 9:10 am: |
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Mayor,
I just can't fathom SO/M going down like that, especially when you have a Perfomance Center being built, movie theater and hopefully an attraction of new business after the completion.
If anything, this WOULD attract NYCers and others who wish for the suburban lifestyle but yet the comfort of the city (NYC) nearby.
Seeing a turnabout in places such as Brooklyn & Harlem, examples where you had neighborhoods that practically GAVE the homes away because nobody wanted live there, now have homes going in the millions. Look at Harlem, where you now have whites moving in, Starbucks around the corner and many new business establishments. Same in parts of Brooklyn. Years ago, I lived in a section of Brooklyn on a street that had prostitutes et al. My landlord who worked was a Director of Housing owned 2 Brownstones. Folks thought she was nuts to buy, however, she had the "plans" and "vision" for that section of town and knew that developers were looking to buy-up land to build townhomes and new business. You should see that area now (the beginning of Park Slope)! Homes and rents have skyrocketed and I guess she had the last laugh.
Richard,
My son who attends SOMS and he did say there were at least 3 different fights that he heard about. The one in question was NOT GANG related. It was a one-on-one fight with 2 students, with friends egging them on. My son did say that the Principal may be aware of these fights and I'm sure something will be done since there were 3 fights in 2 weeks.
Again, I feel where safety is at issue with pedestrians (the fights) something CAN be done. Take this up with SOMS and file a complaint with the Police dept. Suggest if the police can at least post an officer or 2 in troubled spots.
But if you complain on MOL and NOT file a complaint with the police, this will continue to be an ongoing issue. |
Politicalmon
Citizen
Username: Politicalmon
Post Number: 102
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 9:45 am: |
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Mayor;
We moved to South Orange 13 years ago - choose the Montrose section - I heard all the negative predictions you stated in 1993. My neighborhood has only improved in that time frame - perhaps it is you that is smoking the crack?
As far as these students who prefer after school extracurricular activities - the school administration should deal with this - their parents should be called in on the carpet - this is were discipline should start and end. If that doesn't work the parents & children should be warned that their days in the SO/Maplewood school system may be numbered.
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CageyD
Citizen
Username: Cageyd
Post Number: 638
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 9:54 am: |
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Perhaps SO should consider the ordinance Maplewood passed/considered passing, namely that parents are responsible for their children's behavior and if a certain number of incidents happen within a proscibed period of time, then the parents are held financially accountable |
cmontyburns
Citizen
Username: Cmontyburns
Post Number: 1777
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:50 am: |
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"If you have not personally witnessed a fight like the one described, I can see how it might seem unbelievable."
Point of order: Richard didn't personally witness this fight. Didn't stop him from posting all the details, of course. |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 962
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 11:13 am: |
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Phenix - A PAC center and movie theater are nice things, but they do not save a town.
Politicalmon - Why the hostility? I have lived in the area for 24 years and have seen the changes. I see the guys begging for money at night, I have seen the people who sit at a bar and beg other customers for 50 cents so they can buy a beer, and I have seen someone get a gun pulled on them in Maplewood.
It is not because of South Orange and Maplewood residents, it is because of our neighboring towns. |
bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 112
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:23 pm: |
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Everyone seems to be eagerly anticipating the PAC and movie theater. I have said several times on this board I feel the PAC and movie theater are going to be bad for the town and will bring lots of problems. I hope I am wrong but time will tell. |
Phenixrising
Citizen
Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1459
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:47 pm: |
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I have said several times on this board I feel the PAC and movie theater are going to be bad for the town and will bring lots of problems.
What problems? Rest assure I doubt they'll be showing any Snoop Doggy Dog or 50 cent movies. If that is the meaning of your post.
From what I understand, the movie theater is going to runned by Clearview. Same folks who manage the Millburn movie house.
Hmmm… When they built the PAC in Newark, haven't heard of any RASH of violence happening around that area. |
joel dranove
Citizen
Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 160
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 1:58 pm: |
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Time will tell.
jd |
bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 113
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 2:46 pm: |
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Yes, time will tell. Phenix-why did you assume I meant Snoop Doggy Dog or 50 cent movies? Do they even have movies? You obviously read that into the post. I thought they were just music. And how do you know what type of movies will be shown there or what sort of performances will take place at PAC? Hopefully it will include rap and hip hop shows because I happen to be a huge fan.
My major objection was always the location. If someone proposed a movie theater/PAC in SO and asked me what would be the worst location for it, I would have said in the parking lot behind Bunny's and adjacent to the train station. There is a multiplex cinema a 5 minute drive away and movie theaters in Maplewood and Millburn. I never understood what great benefit a movie theater brings to a town. Will it become a hangout for kids with nothing to do who will cause trouble (I am primarily thinking of caucasian punks)? I think perhaps it will. You should ask the cops what they think of it |
Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 316
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 3:08 pm: |
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bettyd: If a movie theater is successful financially it will have great impact on the town it is located in. It will immediately generate a night life - something that South Orange does not have at this moment. It will bring more retaurants into the Village as people will need to eat before and/or after the movie they are going to see. It will also create more of a walking town. People will have to walk to get to the theater, especially with immefiate parking somewhat limited.
Obviously, it all hinges on the fact that the theater is financially stable.
I also don't feel that a movie theater automatically becomes a hangout for delinquents. I don't see it in Maplewood, Millburn or Montclair, to name a few towns. |
bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 114
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 3:29 pm: |
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Josh: I hope you're right. You bring up some good points I may not have thought of. I walk into town all the time to eat and meet people. Maybe some more would do that if there was a theater in town. I just have a bad, almost ominous feeling about it and I don't know exactly why. I hope I'm wrong about it. But we shall see. |
kegel
Citizen
Username: Kegel
Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 3:47 pm: |
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Richard
While I wish to apolgise for the sarcastic tone of my post, I stand by the content. When you start a post with inflamatory terms ("Gang fight near Niecy's," and "growing series of incidents and/or criminal activities.") you should expect to recieve such a reply. You have yet to explain why you believed it was gang related. As for your choosing to live in South Orange, your posts seem to show a great dislike for the town (or at least certain people who live here). |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 885
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:04 pm: |
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anyone who sits near me at a bar and begs me for 50 cents will definitely get a gun pulled on them.
I dont know why, its just what I do
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Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2524
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:13 pm: |
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Does that include Dave after a late night at Bunny's?
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mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 2655
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:36 pm: |
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Richard: On March 15th at the Baird center there will be a public safety meeting with some residents to discuss some concerns regarding the middle school. Please feel free to come - the police chief will be there.
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bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 115
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:37 pm: |
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Josh: One other point I might add which I discussed at length in an earlier thread about lack of vision in SO. I have lived in the town for 40 plus years (some time away for college, then Hoboken for a stint, with parents in town during that period). That does not give me any more rights than someone who has been here for a month, or make me correct. Let's just say I've seen a lot of changes over the years. Change is inevitable and can be good. However, I feel this urge to make SO some sort of "night life" destination with lots of eateries and entertainment venues is misplaced. SO has never been that, and I feel will never become that. We should concentrate on making it a safer, quieter, and cleaner residential community. In my earlier thread I described growing up in SO and remembering it as a sleepy, suburban sort of town. That atmosphere has changed. It has tried to become more urban and hip but has not succeeded, bringing only some of the problems of an urban setting without the benefits. |
catmanjac
Citizen
Username: Catmanjac
Post Number: 82
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:59 pm: |
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Way to go, HOOPS! Let's make it like the old wild west! |
Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 317
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 5:01 pm: |
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bettyd: I read your earlier thread and the posts you wrote. I understand how you grew up - I lived on West Orange/Newstead border growing up. But today's South Orange is different. The dynamics are different - all as a result of the Train. Many of the current residents and future residents of South Orange are from NYC/Brooklyn, etc. Some are from Hoboken or Jersey City. Some are from other cities across the country. They have lived a city-type life and want an urban life in Suburbia. They also see what other similar towns have to offer - Millburn, Maplewood, Montclair, Ridgewood and Westfield to name a few - and expect similar amenities for the money they have or will pay for their house. They want to be able to eat at or order from different types of restaurants close by. They want a local theater to see a movie. They want hip boutiques. They want to have what they had before, all at the tips of their fingers.
In today's fast world I just don't see how a sleepy town can exist so close to Manhattan. It would be nice but I just don't think it is realistic. |
bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 116
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 5:21 pm: |
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I remember the area you grew up. Was there a house on the W.O. border with a gate in the driveway which led into Newstead? I can recall walking home from the skating rink with my friends (probably 1978 or so) and going through that gate and being in Newstead. I was amazed. |
Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 318
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 5:36 pm: |
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Sure was ... the street I lived on was Oak Avenue - if you walked through that gate, down the path through the woods it led you out onto Oak. Our street backed onto the reservation. I lived there from 1970 thru 1985.
It's funny how many people know of the gate. |
bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 117
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 5:51 pm: |
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Is the gate still there? Which street in W.O.? |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4270
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:36 pm: |
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Thanks Nora. The only bar / pub I remember on Springfield Ave is /was Ratigans. And I've only been there a couple times when a friend's band played there back in the late 80's or so. |
Phenixrising
Citizen
Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1460
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:15 am: |
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Josh
Good post! You pretty much reiterated what I was trying to explain. Thank You! 
But today's South Orange is different. The dynamics are different - all as a result of the Train. Many of the current residents and future residents of South Orange are from NYC/Brooklyn, etc. Some are from Hoboken or Jersey City. Some are from other cities across the country. They have lived a city-type life and want an urban life in Suburbia.
bettyd,
Yup, Snoop had a movie a couple of years ago and 50 cents last year.
Again, Clearview which manages the Millburn theater is suppose to manage in SO. The movies shown is pretty similar to the style of Millburn. I'm sure we'll see some of the Maplewood/Millburn crowd over here, since this will be a NEW movie house. I agree with Josh, this will attract new eateries et al to the area and hopefully keep these new establishments more stable because of the Performance Center & theater. |
dave23
Citizen
Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1444
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 9:14 am: |
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Isn't the new movie house going to have a screen dedicated to small/independent films? That's one of the things that's sorely lacking in our immediate area. I'm in Maplewood and have to go to NYC or Montclair to see one of the smaller movies. I, for one, am really excited to have a new theater in the area and really hope it spurs other growth in the area. |
Kitchenguru
Citizen
Username: Kitchenguru
Post Number: 23
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:15 am: |
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I don't know how we can spur new growth in the area when we are busy complaining about how awful it is here. I have lived in several oppulent communities, Montclair included, and every home I have lived in has been robbed, thank goodness it was before my time. My Montclair house was across the street from the mayor and behind the former attorney general of "Daddy Bush's" administration.
All these homes were robbed. We are living in an urban area for the conveniences and flavour it adds to our lives. I have lived in five homes in this area(Maplewood-South Orange) obviously,very happily and will probably buy here again in the next couple of years.
On the other hand if I were moving here now with no prior sense of the area and read these posts I would definitely go elsewhere. |
Politicalmon
Citizen
Username: Politicalmon
Post Number: 104
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:36 am: |
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Mayor,
Sorry for my tone, I guess it upsets me when you make a blanket statement that 20 years from now South Orange will look like Vailsburg or Newark. Given the improvements over the decade I found the statement to be so far from the truth that I questioned whether will live in the same town?
The problem with the underclass from neighboring communities has existed for the last 35 years and is nothing new – I remember the homeless problem in NYC during the early 80s, having to walk over homeless individuals to numerous to count in the area between the Path Station @ 34th Street and the NYC Subway system on Christmas eve 1983 images that are burnt into my mind. Though this was something I had never envisioned for NYC, I knew that resources would be used to resolve the root causes of this social dilemma. If you walked through Time Square at 5AM in 1986 during the crack epidemic and today you would think you were in two very different worlds. I didn’t write off NYC for I believed that with intelligence, accountability and responsible politicians these problems would be resolved. Regardless of what one thinks of Giuliani & Bloomberg they have made the political machine in NYC work more effectively.
Fifty years ago Vailsburg, Orange and Irvington where decent communities, after the Newark riots during the late 60s white flight ensued. The gap was filled with a population that had lower income levels and was predominantly minority. This coupled with ineffective local government and failing schools helped put the nail in the coffin for these communities. The politicians in these communities are only out to enrich themselves – former mayor Gibson indicted, Sharp James one of the biggest thieves in NJ politics fired a lawyer representing Newark in a suit against the Port Authority because the lawyer felt that Newark had a good case and was entitled to more money from the PA then James was willing to accept, Rice another thief who has taken money from the SCC. The people in these communities are not educated enough lack the politically savvy and monetary resources to get them out of the hole there in and the politicians are taking full advantage of their ignorance.
I don't see this happening in SO, for one the demand for housing has been strong due to the influx of new families from NYC & Hoboken. The average African American family earns more then the average white family in town. I don't see how this could possibly mirror the demographic shift which led to the demise in our neighboring communities? Perhaps I'm more optimistic then you? Though I believe we have serious problems in local government and political accountability I feel a shift to a new streamlined responsible government is in our future. This will manifest when the tax revaluation occurs in SO - People will then finally realize that they better be engaged & informed because those of us who have invested our future in this community will realize without real fiscally responsible leadership our greatest investment – the house will see a real reduction in value – this will effect the people who bought at the height of the market more than those who came earlier – therefore it is imperative that the newcomers who have the most to lose become politically active and aware of how your moneys be spent and why it appears that we are being run by the gang that couldn’t shot straight.
A random act of violence a vagrant asking for money is not a true indicator of a community in decline.
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Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 964
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 11:38 am: |
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Politicalmon,
I think that will just have to agree to disagree on this one. I see a much different fate for our area. However, do misunderstand me on this; I don't want to see it happen. I hope for both of our sakes that you are right on this one. |
bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 119
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 11:40 am: |
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Josh and Phenix: Current and future residents want "an urban life in suburbia." That I see as a problem. You have one or the other. The more urban you become, the more a suburban existence declines, and vice versa. When you try and mix the two you get problems and a lack of identity, which I feel SO has now and I feel is reflected in the discussions on this board. When you try and get the best of both worlds (urban and suburban), you may just end up getting the worst aspects of each. The demographics have changed and I understand that, but many people are at the point where they describe SO now as an urban setting. I'm not prepared to say that. Perhaps the slide can't be stopped.
I read topics on this board and I get concerned. Let's become like Hoboken, or look at the turnarounds in Harlem and Brooklyn. Harlem, Brooklyn and Hoboken!!! We're discussing the future of South Orange, a residential community of stately and nice homes, and I don't see how we got to the point where we are discussing Hoboken, Harlem and Brooklyn in the same breath. As stated above, I lived in Hoboken. If I wanted Hoboken I would have never moved, or I visit there now when I am in the mood for Hoboken.
This thread is an example of some problems. Although unclear as to the particulars and how severe the fights were, it appears the middle school has had 3 fights over the past two weeks, two of which have spilled into the town. That's not good anyway you look at it. I am a product of the school system and do not remember any such problems. I am seriously considering not sending my son to SOMS when he reaches that age (not based solely on these recent incidents). I spoke to a friend of mine in another town and a report on violence in that school system in 2004 revealed one minor fistfight at the HS between two boys.
Realize that my posts are not meant to inflame or denigrate the town. I'm just voicing my concerns about the town I love, my hometown. I'm not at Richard's or Mayor's point yet, but pessimism has been creeping in. I don't want to hold onto the past and I know I can't, but I feel we are adrift and the changes I see are not all good. But I remain optimistic despite my concerns.
And yes, I realize housing values have gone up significantly and I am thankful for that. But that is not the be all and end all for a town. As stated in my earlier posts, they've gone up in Kearny, Orange, East Orange, even in parts of Newark and Irvington. |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 330
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 12:19 pm: |
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Gang this gang that...pffft |
Phenixrising
Citizen
Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1463
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 12:54 pm: |
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bettyd
Harlem, Brookyn & Hoboken are examples of economic revival.
South Orange has had its problem with keeping business establishments stable. How many "closed signs" or for "rent signs" have you seen? I've seen plenty. I'm sure with a PAC & movies theater, business establishments would become more stable.
Years ago, the Village was dead. Now, there are restaurants within walking distance for some, and having a some form of entertainment would bring LIFE to SO Village. Just ask the neighboring town of Millburn, which has the Papermill & movie theater.
Too bad you feel that way about SOMS. SOMS has alot to offer. I've volunteered at school functions for my kids, got to know some of the tireless HSA volunteers, teachers and parents who CARE about SOMS. My kids have enjoyed their years at SOMS!
Before making assumptions based on some other town, ask folks who's kids attend SOMS both past & present.
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bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 120
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 2:09 pm: |
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Phenix: I guess I'm upset that SO is in need of economic revival and it has come to this.
I have not made any assumptions about SOMS based on any other town, just what I have gleaned from conversations with people familiar with the school. I have in fact talked to many others whose kids attend SOMS, past and present. Some, like you, have had nothing but positive things to say. Others have a different take. Based on all I have learned, I am considering an alternative. The decision is a few years off and I will continue to get information. I know several of the police officers very well and will get their off the record understanding of these most recent incidents.
I am glad your experience at SOMS has been favorable and your kids have enjoyed, or are still enjoying it. Did they experience any rowdiness or trouble at the school? Will they be attending CHS? |
Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 319
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 6:13 pm: |
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bettyd: Sorry to not have responded to you earlier. I am not sure if the gate is still there. I know that they paved over the old path and now it has become an extension of my old street Oak Ave.
As for urban life in SO - no matter how much the downtown is redeveloped catering to the new residential demographics it can never lose its small Village feel - the footprint is what it is - that of a small downtown village. It just needs to be improved. |
Phenixrising
Citizen
Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1467
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 8:17 am: |
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I am glad your experience at SOMS has been favorable and your kids have enjoyed, or are still enjoying it.
My child is still at SOMS and he is pleased with the school.
Did they experience any rowdiness or trouble at the school?
While my other teen is at CHS, he attended SOMS and disciplinary issues were dealt with in forms of punishment. You may have a fight occassionally in the Cafe, but that was usually broken-up before it turned into an all-out-war. Both kids felt safe at SOMS.
Will they be attending CHS?
I have one that attends CHS and yes, my other will follow.
bettyd,
SOMS and CHS both have "School In Action Night", try to attend one of these, there great! Both show you what the schools are all about. You can ask questions of the Principal, teachers,students and parents so you can get a "feel" of the school. |
bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 123
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 10:00 am: |
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Phenix: Thanks for the info and I will attend.
Josh: I just feel we're losing that "small town feel." I envision parking decks in our future and more fast food chains. |
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