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Author Message   CageyD Citizen Username: Cageyd Post Number: 644 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 4:18 pm:        In West Orange.... Just saw the sign that a Whole Foods will soon be opening in the Kmart Shopping plaza on Eagle Rock Ave. Way to go Calabrese! What it takes you 8 + years (and counting) to attempt - neighboring towns can achieve in less than a year.   Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 3580 Registered: 5-2001 Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 5:38 pm:        Cagey: It's a size & proximity thing. -s.   Peter J. Watts Citizen Username: Peter_watts Post Number: 2 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 6:11 pm:        I can understand the size issue, but proximity? How so? It seems like there would be plenty of business for a supermarket.   jayjay Citizen Username: Jayjayp Post Number: 453 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 6:47 pm:        Forget the market. It'll never happen. I can't believe that Mr. Choi, whoever he is, is just waiting around for the thing to be built so that he can put an undersized market in a spot with terrible parking. It was a ruse by the developer to build condos and get a PILOT. Do any of you remember when the Maywood Market was identified as the operator of our "coming soon" market? Who knows what happened there? You don't hear anything about their departure from the scene. And, BTW, I would not go walking in front of the old Shop Rite facade on South Orange Avenue. Now the aluminum siding is falling off the front. Looks like an accident ready to happen. They knock down the historic flat iron building, but leave up that horror. Go figure.   Lizziecat Citizen Username: Lizziecat Post Number: 1095 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 7:09 pm:        Livingston is completing a huge, beautiful downtown project consisting of stores and townhouses. And they are almost done with a gorgeous addition to their library. Every time I go there to shop at one of their three supermarkets, I want to cry.   CageyD Citizen Username: Cageyd Post Number: 646 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:19 pm:        Soda, I think it is more of a competence & ability thing   Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4276 Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 9:32 pm:        But look at the bright side! We will be getting a Tony Smith Statue way before any of these projects are finished!   Abner Aliger Citizen Username: Vichy Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 6:47 am:        Must agree with Soda; it is a "proximity" thing!   John Glick Citizen Username: Jgg Post Number: 19 Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 10:19 am:        I agree with Lizziecat. That is why I was happy to see the Millennium proposal which appears to have a similar vision to what is going on in Livingston, and in my view would be a positive development for the Village, even if done on a lesser scale to what was proposed. Unfortunately, it appears that the BOT feels no sense of urgency to improve the Village to the extent of what is going on in other towns such as Livingston, and would rather take months/years, on top of the time that has already been wasted trying to figure out its vision for the Village. I guess if no progress is made on this front by the next election, we have the option to remove the current regime and bring in some new people who have the ability to move things along in a more expeditious manner.   Neen Citizen Username: Neen Post Number: 220 Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 2:59 pm:        Size, proximity, who CARES! I really don't care what their excuses are as to why that space remains empty and decaying. All I ask is that something be done. Put a shoe store there, or a hardware store, or even yet another bank. I really don't care anymore, but to have it sitting there looking like a crack house and being a hazard to pedestrians as they walk by is just a disgrace. No excuses are accepted for why this is the case.   Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 2577 Registered: 5-2004 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 3:10 pm:        The fact that it is going to be a market is not what is holding up the project. So putting something else there will not speed things up.   MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 3505 Registered: 5-2001 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 3:15 pm:        You mean like the fact that the Village STILL does not control all pieces of property necessary for the construction to begin? You mean like the fact that the parking deck must be completed FIRST before the Market can open and construction has not begun on that? You mean like the fact that there is a strong likelihood that the same water problem that impacted the Beifus site will become evident once digging for the Parking Deck does finally begin? Coming Soon? Not likely.   Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 2579 Registered: 5-2004 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 3:34 pm:        Yep. Those are some of the facts I meant.   Sitoyan Citizen Username: Sitoyan Post Number: 155 Registered: 7-2004 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 3:47 pm:        MHD, I think that John Glick confirms more and more your "suspicion" that he is indeed Lennie Berkley of Millenium Homes. He thinks he can fool us. You're sharp.   susan1014 Supporter Username: Susan1014 Post Number: 1407 Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 5:19 pm:        And the fact that the Livingston project has been many years in the making, so is not an example of instantaneous development free of red tape. The BOT may suck, but "Mr Glick" is being deceiving if he implies that the Livingston project was done with the kind of speed and disregard for process that Millennium desires.   joso Citizen Username: Joso Post Number: 329 Registered: 5-2001 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 5:45 pm:        Unbelievably though, progress is being made on the new THD site. Never thought I would see this happen.   Josh Holtz Citizen Username: Jholtz Post Number: 321 Registered: 4-2004 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 9:03 pm:        Didn't Ed Matthews say that the Village would control all of the New Market property in 30 days? Was it during one of the January BOT meetings it was said?   Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4289 Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 9:42 pm:        susan- True the Livngston project was years in the making, but once they broke ground, things moved along rather quickly. I don't remember Livingston looking anywhere the wreck our Village looks while discussing the projects. Both the projects where the old movie theather use to be on Mount Pleasant and the super expensive units on Northfield are looking good. What's South Oranges problem?   MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 3510 Registered: 5-2001 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 10:31 pm:        Josh, To be technically accurate - at the Meeting on Jan 23, Ed Matthews stated "he believed the negotiations would be completed within the next 40 days." [to acquire all necessary properties] At the Meeting on Feb 27 (almost 40 days later), Ed Matthews essentially said the negoiations are still not completed and there was no timeline for them to be completed. JTA - I agree - once Livingston STARTED, the site looked professional and moved along at a reasonable pace.   SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 80 Registered: 2-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 7:49 am:        Funny, MHD, I've heard the "negotiations" to get the town out of a lousy contract with East Orange Water have been going on for years with no end in sight. The trouble seems to be that we don't have much to negotiate with because the contracts so disfavor South Orange, the very party they are supposed to protect. The contracts the town signs and fails to sign serve as engraved invitations for all the petty criminals in the region to pillage the town and its taxpayers.   SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 81 Registered: 2-2006 Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 7:56 am:        Funny, MHD, I've heard the "negotiations" to get the town out of a lousy contract with East Orange Water have been going on for years with no end in sight. The trouble seems to be that we don't have much to negotiate with because the contracts so disfavor South Orange, the very party they are supposed to protect. The contracts the town signs and fails to sign serve as engraved invitations for all the petty criminals in the region to pillage the town and its taxpayers.   MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 3511 Registered: 5-2001 Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 8:38 pm:        SoRising, Unfortunately, all negotiations go through Edwin Matthews, John Gross and Bill Calabrese, who quiver in fear at the thought of violating an arbitrary deadline imposed by the deceased widow of Tony Smith, but seem to have no cares when Beifus repeatedly ignores contractual deadlines that have been imposed.   Josh Holtz Citizen Username: Jholtz Post Number: 325 Registered: 4-2004 Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 11:40 am:        Thanks MHD.