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jayjay
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Username: Jayjayp
Post Number: 462
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 6:39 pm: | 
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So now we can look forward to both Subways and Quizno's, and about 2 stores apart at that. Do they both expect to win? Plus, if Town Hall Deli ever gets built and the place opposite the train station becomes a deli, we will be over-sandwiched. Is this the vision Calabrese means when he talks of his vision for the town?
Do we even have any design zoning criteria and standards for the exteriors of these places? Given the look of so many of the retailers, I doubt it. |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 337
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 10:37 pm: |
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Blimpies 0WNZ them both
yeah |
SO Ref
Citizen
Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1565
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 11:33 pm: |
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Is there any hard hitting subject the jay won't seek to get to the bottom of??? |
Ace789nj
Citizen
Username: Ace789nj
Post Number: 305
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 2:02 am: |
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Subway is better. From a business standpoint, Subway has been ranked the #1 franchise since 2001 and has been within the top 10 for 14 out of the last 18 years. I am currently in the works to buy into the frachise and open a new location (not SO ) so I've got quite a bit of info on them. As far as Quizno's goes they're in big trouble, they didn't have a great business plan (read:greed) the father and son who own/owned it went a little crazy selling franchise options, they wound up have a ton of people who bought in but had no locations, they started to allow stores to open where business would not be good and many people who were waiting wound up loosing their rights (and investment $$) because they hadn't opened a location within a certain time period. They've since filed two class action suits against the company and the owners recently put the compny up for sale.
From a food/taste standpoint I've tried both and tend to like Subway better, neither are the greatest cuisine but I do know that Subway uses good quality meats, new packs of veggies are opened daily (they're kept fresh in those airtight bags) and the bread is baked fresh every day.
Sounds like I'm advertising, don't worry Dave, my location is about 60 miles from SO  I do wish I had started the process earlier, I think SO is going to be a good one
As far as being over sandwiched, I think there's a completely different client base for a place like Subway as opposed to Town Hall Deli, People are gonna go to town hall deli for old style subs (that's the best I can describe it). Subway or Quizno's have kinda like a fast food appeal, it'll be popular amongst the Columbia, middle school and Seton Hall crowds, plus the folks commuting can go for something that's fast (or at least has the feel of being done fast, I'm sure Town hall deli can make a sub just as quick but that's where the fast food appeal comes in). The SO Subway may also serve breakfast which will add a whole seperate set of customers.
Time will tell |
peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1855
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 10:23 am: |
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SUbway better? That overly processed, mushed together "chicken loaf" and "turkey loaf"?
IMO -- Quiznos is far superior to Subway -- much better meats,etc. I'd never set foot in Subway if Quiznos wa nearby.
Although given a convenient nearby deli...
/p |
kmk
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Username: Kmk
Post Number: 1069
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 12:03 pm: |
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Where will the Quiznos and Subway be located...2 doors apart? |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 338
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 1:08 pm: |
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Wrong...blimpies is popular amongst the columbia crowd |
SO Ref
Citizen
Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1566
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 1:25 pm: |
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Proximity may play part in that popularity... |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 3593
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 1:49 pm: |
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Ace is mostly right. The Blimpie Base next to CHS will always have the loyalty (& rightfully so) of the students there, and SHU will just have to wait for the tapdancing Sean Flood to get his act together locally, but as one who regularly drives to E. Hanover for the outstanding sammiches at The Great Wazu, I'd rank 'em this way: Blimpie's is better overall, and Quizno's hot subs beat Subway's on the basis of both ingredients and bread.
Speed of creation isn't much of an issue unless you're after a Sloppy Joe anyhow, so once THD reopens (while I'll still trek to TGW for my fave, a # 10 with cheddar), my bucks'll go to Mr. Tony @ Town Hall Deli.
Good luck with your franchise, Ace. Where will it be???
-s. |
jayjay
Citizen
Username: Jayjayp
Post Number: 465
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 2:22 pm: |
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KMK-
I think Subways is going into the prior Dawn Optician store on South Orange Ave. And Quizno's is a couple of stores up, I think on the other side of Sonny's bagels. There are "coming soon" signs in both windows. |
AntoninaKC
Citizen
Username: Antoninakc
Post Number: 192
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 3:01 pm: |
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It sure seems like we have an overabundance of sub shops and bagel stores 
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kmk
Supporter
Username: Kmk
Post Number: 1071
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 3:18 pm: |
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jayjay - Thanks... |
Old and Gray
Citizen
Username: Pastmyprime
Post Number: 325
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 7:15 pm: |
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Quiznos(as my past few visits) doesn't allow you much room to adjust their subs if you want to change a cheese or add an additional topping...Subways are usually weak, depending on the owner operator? |
The Man
Citizen
Username: Bumboklaat
Post Number: 155
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 7:22 pm: |
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Both places make horrible subs, it's that simple. I once had to teach a subway employee how to make a chicken parm sub like it was completley foreign to them.
I would gladly take a hot roast beef with provolone from Campus or a turkey and roast beef with swiss sloppy from THD. |
SO Ref
Citizen
Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1569
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 9:59 pm: |
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Does anyone really think McDonald's became popular because a high-quality gourmet burger??? It's the same with almost any franchise; you'll never get the same quality as a owner-operated operation. Is that bad? No, it just is what it is... |
sac
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Username: Sac
Post Number: 3223
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 10:01 pm: |
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Maybe we (Maplewood) could trade a nail salon for one of your sub shops? |
Daniel M. Jacobs, PP, AICP
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Username: Conrail
Post Number: 101
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 10:25 pm: |
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I'll take any profitable business able to produce enough revenue to help pay school taxes . . . |
Ace789nj
Citizen
Username: Ace789nj
Post Number: 308
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 12:32 am: |
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I agree that he food isn't the greatest. It's not terrible but to be honest I don't really care, the place makes $$.
Soda - Still trying to decide, There's an existing location in Warren County that I looked at but I wasn't too pleased with the North Jersey DA so I set up a meeting with a development agent just over the border in PA, their market is looking better but that would be a new location and it involves a LOT more effort for the first year.
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\2{Monster}
Supporter
Username: Monster
Post Number: 2465
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 12:53 am: |
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mmmmm, Quizno's
put your money where your tastebuds are.... |
Ace789nj
Citizen
Username: Ace789nj
Post Number: 311
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 1:11 am: |
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Maybe to eat, but I like putting my $$ where I can make more of it  |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4300
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 6:42 am: |
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Ace-
Quiznos and Subway are too far from Columbia High for the students to go to for lunch... |
Slim Jim
Citizen
Username: Arrakis
Post Number: 16
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:01 am: |
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I am happy both will be in South Orange and will be open past 7pm. I am a commuter and usually get home after 7pm and was a little disappointed to find out that a local sandwich wrap place closed at 7pm and the only other place where I could get something quick & cheap was takeout chineese food.
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Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 328
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:40 am: |
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I just wish that the buildings, which will house both sub shops, looked nicer and had better facades. That way the new sub shops would fit in nicely from an asthetic standpoint. However, due to the way those particular buildings are kept up you know that both Subway and Quiznos will slap their logos up creating an even more disjointed feel to that row of retail. |
Charles De Mar
Citizen
Username: Charles_demar
Post Number: 246
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:50 am: |
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Is Jared going to be there for the opening? |
AntoninaKC
Citizen
Username: Antoninakc
Post Number: 197
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:50 am: |
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Speaking of McDonalds, I'd rather see one of those in town than another sub place. |
dave23
Citizen
Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1465
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:57 am: |
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A Chipotle would do killer bizness. |
Buzzsaw
Citizen
Username: Buzzsaw
Post Number: 4131
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:16 am: |
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^
Right on Dave23
And, I would like to say that Marty's has great subs IMO. |
ril
Citizen
Username: Ril
Post Number: 499
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:19 am: |
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what about the place that's opening across from the train station, in that blue building? isn't that a deli? Any progress there? |
Daniel M. Jacobs, PP, AICP
Supporter
Username: Conrail
Post Number: 102
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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I have emailed Chipotle in the past about opening in SO and they told me that they would consider it if they received any interest from the town's residents . . . this may just be a "form letter" response . . . |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4302
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 2:55 pm: |
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Micky D's? Now THAT would be a great place to have in town! Or a Boston Market...~ |
Ace789nj
Citizen
Username: Ace789nj
Post Number: 312
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 3:51 pm: |
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JTA - "Quiznos and Subway are too far from Columbia High for the students to go to for lunch..."
I was talking about more about the age group but I used to hit the Mcdonald's on the parkway (union) when I was at Columbia. I don't think it's too far, although the fact that Blimpies is just about on the field won't help. |
Brett Weir
Citizen
Username: Brett_weir
Post Number: 1318
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 5:07 pm: |
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If you're going with a chain sub store, Jersey Mike's are still the best, IMO. |
SOSully
Citizen
Username: Sullymw
Post Number: 1180
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 8:59 am: |
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where are these supposedly going? |
Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 333
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 9:10 am: |
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They will essentially flank the Carvel on each side. |
ril
Citizen
Username: Ril
Post Number: 500
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 11:07 am: |
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is there a Jersey Mike's near here? I know there's one up on rt 10... anyplace closer? |
bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 133
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 5:11 pm: |
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They both stink in my opinion. |
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