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michael brant
Citizen
Username: Mbrant
Post Number: 129
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 10:19 am: | 
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I watched the entire meeting last night and I was completely disgusted. Other than Mr. Rosner I hear nothing but emotional decisions being made by this group of incompetents. I do not know why we want our town to be a tourist destination. Who benefits from this? I did not understand Mr. Devaris at all. Why should we allow MR. Beifus the right to find a new developer? Mr. Devaris says we are into it for 5 years so why stop him now? BECAUSE beifus IS INCOMPETENT! If Mr.Devaris has a contractor building his home and has created the same situation on his personal property would he not fire him and find a new one? Regardless of the set back? I think so!
Stacy Jennings has absolutely nothing to say that has any relevance to the topic.
Art Taylor keeps his mouth shut which is the only things he does correctly.
Alan Rosen opens his mouth and I hear nothing absolutely nothing of importance.
Mr Calabrese keeps talking about vision. His heart seems to be in the right place but is living in a fantasy world. His decision process is purely emotional. I do not want our town to be a tourist destination and I really do not see why anyone would.
Then there is Mr. Rosner who remains quiet most of the time but when he addresses a resident or board member he is precise and to the point with clear comments. He has answers or opinions on issues that make sense and do not seem to be out in left field. I wish he would jump into more conversations. He said that he voted to condemn the beifus location and no one uttered a word no one at all!
Tony Smith. I am for the sculpture but I also thought is was grant money that was paying for it not our tax $$.
So Mr. Rosner please speak up more often in these meetings. I know why you don't and you are clearly the only intelligent person up there and obviously have decided less said about issues that cannot be changed the better but you opinion is requested on all issues open or closed.
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MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 3524
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 10:25 am: |
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Well said, Michael. |
Pdg
Citizen
Username: Pdg
Post Number: 629
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 10:35 am: |
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I am in complete agreement!
Not only is MRosner clearly intelligent, controlled and well-spoken, but he makes himself available to all of us on MOL, which all the Trustees should do - if not on MOL, then on an official village message board!
This man shares a lot of his free, personal time doing what he promised before he was elected! I for one, will be happy to pull the lever for him again!
(And hopefully, more like him! Jeff D. should run again!) |
michael brant
Citizen
Username: Mbrant
Post Number: 131
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 10:43 am: |
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The level of competence and incompetence becomes very clear when this board or any board is faced with problems and challenges from the public. What happened last night sends a message that other than Mr.Rosner the rest are in over their heads. |
Sheena Collum SHU
Citizen
Username: Sheena_collum
Post Number: 595
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 10:55 am: |
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I guess I'll be the dissenting opinion...
You need 4 votes to be effective on the board (notewithstanding solely personal aspects of being a trustee such as being available/speaking to residents/etc.) Regardless of whether Trustee Rosner opts to speak up or not - other board members and the VP will do what they find is best, regardless if Trustee Rosner decides to put on a show and that is the reality. |
SoOrLady
Citizen
Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 3095
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 11:15 am: |
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Put on a show?!?!? What a rude comment. Mark deserves better. |
michael brant
Citizen
Username: Mbrant
Post Number: 133
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 11:21 am: |
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Sheena: It is better to have at least one person speak up even if it is a lone voice. It would be a mistake for Rosner to stay silent just becaue there might be four votes |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 3526
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 11:36 am: |
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Sheena,
Mark's public dissension on giving Beifus a PILOT, as well as his dissension on putting Theroux on the Parking Authority have already put him at odds with Calabrese, Taylor & Rosen.
At this point, he might as well continue to take these correct positions for the benefit of the community, instead of following the self-serving interests of the "Lie-ees"
(Trust-ees is not an appropriate word for Calabrese, Rosen & Taylor who choose to LIE to the public) |
Sheena Collum SHU
Citizen
Username: Sheena_collum
Post Number: 596
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 11:40 am: |
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SoOrLady - that's not an attack on Mark, it is what some would like to see him do... be the person who goes after all the other board members for their opinions... that is what I meant by my statement so no, it was not rude nor intended to be. |
michael brant
Citizen
Username: Mbrant
Post Number: 136
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:07 pm: |
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Sheena what does that mean? Please elaborate? |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 988
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 4:36 pm: |
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Michael, could you please elaborate your question, what in particular are you asking? Which post are you referring to? Could you please make it a two part question explaining exactly what it is that you are looking for? I'm kidding.... But I don't get what you are missing. Maybe it will help if I put the two posts together for you.
10:55am Sheena wrote:
“I guess I'll be the dissenting opinion...
You need 4 votes to be effective on the board (notewithstanding solely personal aspects of being a trustee such as being available/speaking to residents/etc.) Regardless of whether Trustee Rosner opts to speak up or not - other board members and the VP will do what they find is best, regardless if Trustee Rosner decides to put on a show and that is the reality.”
11:40am Sheena wrote:
“SoOrLady - that's not an attack on Mark, it is what some would like to see him do... be the person who goes after all the other board members for their opinions... that is what I meant by my statement so no, it was not rude nor intended to be.”
Everyone knows you are just trying to see if Sheena writes the wrong word so that you can try and “let her have it”. That's not very nice.
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bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 132
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 5:09 pm: |
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I agree with the initial post. I don't want our town to be a tourist destination or some sort of night life hotspot, as I've said in earlier posts. |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 339
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 10:57 pm: |
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Regardless of your intentions Sheena, that comment was rude...If Mr. Rosner doing his job is "putting on a show" to you, then what would he need to do to put some substance behind that "show"???
Maybe if you could get more than a handful of Seton Hall students to vote in the town elections that a few of you fought so hard for...then maybe you could change the face of the board and seize control of your interests...
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Pdg
Citizen
Username: Pdg
Post Number: 636
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 11:09 pm: |
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Sheena - I "got" what you meant and imo you meant no harm/insult to MRosner.
Glock - maybe lighten up? Sheena is nothing but a good force in South Orange from what I've seen and I'd be proud if my daughter grew up to be as mature, responsible and politically aware while still in college! (Lord knows I wasn't... ) |
Sheena Collum SHU
Citizen
Username: Sheena_collum
Post Number: 601
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 11:12 pm: |
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Glock, let's be mature and not try to start fights on a board, ok? I'll try not to read too much into all of your posts....
Mark knows that I think he's been a solid voice of reason despite differences. He speaks up when it's necessary and knows when not to beat a dead horse and he's made that clear.
lol Pdg - you're grand  |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4322
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 11:27 pm: |
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michael, MHD, pdg, solady, betty, glock
Like all of you, I do not want to see South Orange become a tourist town either. But what can we do? I'm interested in hearing from the people who voted for our newest BOT members. Are they happy with the way things have turned out? Mark, you're doing a great job! I hope you know you have the support of many of us. Hopefully by the time the new election comes along enough people will be so fed up will have a new batch of people on the BOT. How many of the terms are up? I'm concerned though, by the time we can get new people in, it might be too late. |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 341
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 11:28 pm: |
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Thank goodness I'm finally 18 and can vote. |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 3537
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 7:50 am: |
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Quote:I'm interested in hearing from the people who voted for our newest BOT members. Are they happy with the way things have turned out?
JTA - I don't think ANY of those people are on MOL. In my opinion, let's just say we're in the same position we were in last year with Steglitz/Theroux without the googly eyes between Theroux & Gross during meetings. Plus, we have lost the dignity, intellect and respectfulness of Patrick Joyce.
Jennings - Boy, Deidra was right. Jennings sure "makes things happen", doesn't she? She's a real walking encyclopedia of facts and useful knowledge, isn't she?
Moore-Abrams - Her campaign promises were bold. Her delivery - not so much. Although she does know when to stay quiet, unlike Ms. Jennings.
Devaris - Strong on Millenium. Weak on Beifus. Blinded by his own personal interests in the Tony Smith sculpture to see what is really going on.
Look for the full "New Trustees 1 year review" coming up in a mere 8 weeks..... |
michael brant
Citizen
Username: Mbrant
Post Number: 138
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 9:42 am: |
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Read today Star Ledger. These people are in trouble. |
Lester Jacobs
Citizen
Username: Lester
Post Number: 105
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 1:18 pm: |
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Is there a legal means for the police to declare an emergency situation and dissolve the BOT? An interim leader could be appointed to run things until the situation stablizes and a return to democracy becomes more viable. |
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