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Spitz
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Username: Doublea
Post Number: 1637
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:24 pm: | 
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What's with the u-turns on South Orange Ave? Today, I was behind a car headed east on SO Ave. in front of the old THD, and the driver made a u-turn when he saw a parking space in front of Blockbuster.
It's common to see drivers parked illegally in front of Wachovia who go in to use the atm, then make a u-turn on SO Ave. to head back east.
You wanna help the budget deficit. Put an officer on SO Ave. to hand out tickets as well as ticketing all the illegal parking in front of Dunkin' Donuts and Wachovia.
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Soparents
Citizen
Username: Soparents
Post Number: 85
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:36 pm: |
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I see people persistently cross over the double yellow lines at Sloan Street to get to a vacant parking space. I have even seen a coach go the wrong way round the roundabout outside the fire house! I see the crossing over yellow lines at least twice a week..... |
vermontgolfer
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Username: Vermontgolfer
Post Number: 391
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:37 pm: |
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Spitz,
You can also out one on Sloan, with everyone making 'illegal' left turns into parking spots, going in both directions. Unless of course they changed that and I'm not aware.
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Pdg
Citizen
Username: Pdg
Post Number: 739
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:40 pm: |
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Parking sure does suck in S.Orange! People might be more civilized if it weren't a now or never opportunity to find a place to park and patronize our local businesses! |
Spitz
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Username: Doublea
Post Number: 1638
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:52 pm: |
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Pdg - I agree that parking is a big problem. However, I don't think it's going to solve the problem of just plain jerks making u-turns or just thinking parking illegally in front of Dunkin' Donuts is ok. The guy who gets the jerk of the year award is the one who had a parking space on Sloan St. along the side of Dunkin' Donuts. He then backed up out of the parking space and stayed in reverse to clear the median, then made a u-turn and headed south on Sloan towards the circle. More parking won't solve the jerk problem, only tickets will. |
Spitz
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Username: Doublea
Post Number: 1639
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:03 pm: |
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Has anyone noticed that the prices in the SO Dunkin' Donuts are higher than most other DD's - even the one in Millburn. It must be the rent. I do know that the prices in DD's do vary, no doubt as a factor of the overhead. As the author of the New Jersey Guide to Dunkin' Donuts, I'm pretty authoritative on the subject. |
Soparents
Citizen
Username: Soparents
Post Number: 89
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:05 pm: |
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Spitz,
Maybe they are charging more in anticipation of the SID taxation????
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Hon. E.Z. Slipshod
Citizen
Username: Parkingsux
Post Number: 369
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:21 pm: |
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Complaining about parking now; just wait for SOPAC.....
The parking situation downtown will prevent SOPAC from achieving its full potential. Another day we think about parking is another day we, the residents, will pay subsidizing SOPAC until it becomes so monumental a debt we sell it for a fraction of its cost! Where is the vision...?????
BTW: An attorney of some consequence.... 
ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a Pulse?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
ATTORNEY: But could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.
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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4585
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 2:38 pm: |
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I agree the number of people making U-Turns is out of control. Same wth the lack of parkng. I think I read in the Snooze Wreckered yesterday the town plans to pave over two peces of land we now own ov Valley for 'surface parking.' That should help a tiny bt wth the parkng. But what to do about the illegal U-Turns? |
singlemalt
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Username: Singlemalt
Post Number: 1141
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 9:52 am: |
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There used to be signs saying the U-turn on sloan was not allowed. Those signs are no longer there. I get very frustrated when I go all the way around the circle to get a spot and someone does a cross over and takes it. Does anyone know if it's now legal to cross over?
I know of people in the past who received tickets for doing this but not sure if it's still enforced. |
mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 2712
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 10:24 am: |
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Single: It is still illegal to make a left turn into spaces on sloan street. There are two signs up but in different places than where they used to be. It is not enforced often enough. |
Old and Gray
Citizen
Username: Pastmyprime
Post Number: 328
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 1:39 pm: |
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Why not continue that small medium all the way down Sloan...It would make a left turn a bottom scrapping experience.
I heard they couldn't because the fire trucks need the room, but I think a fire truck has enough ground clearance for 4 inches of a rounded brick. |
KG525
Citizen
Username: Kg525
Post Number: 2
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 10:38 pm: |
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Ok.. let me see.. One officer on South Orange Avenue... Another on Sloan Street. With manpower shortages already, how do you figure this will happen? How about forget the statue, and hire 5 more police officers... still not enough but will help. |
K_soze
Citizen
Username: K_soze
Post Number: 24
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 4:41 am: |
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I agree |
Spitz
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Username: Doublea
Post Number: 1640
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 6:35 pm: |
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KG525 - I'm guessing you're a SO police officer. Each week, when I look at the police blotter, I'm thankful for the wonderful police force that we have. I do have a question. As shown in this month's issue of New Jersey Monthly, South Orange has 3.2 officers per 1000 residents. Maplewood has 2.5, Montclair 2.9.
I had heard previously that South Orange has more officers per 1000 than almost any other municipality of its size. I have no doubt that this is responsible for keeping the crime stats lower than they would be otherwise. Can you comment? |
Spitz
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Username: Doublea
Post Number: 1642
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 7:51 pm: |
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Will additional officers need to be hired when SOPAC opens? |
Lucy
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Username: Lucy
Post Number: 3332
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 10:17 pm: |
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You have got to be kidding? |
K_soze
Citizen
Username: K_soze
Post Number: 26
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 9:57 am: |
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Kidding as in of course we need more officers or kidding as in we've got all that we need? |
kegel
Citizen
Username: Kegel
Post Number: 8
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 11:50 pm: |
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"...South Orange has 3.2 officers per 1000 residents..." That number of 1,000 residents does not include SHU students. If you add in the "transitional" population the numbers would be a LOT different. |
K_soze
Citizen
Username: K_soze
Post Number: 28
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 9:36 am: |
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Thank you
BTW, how about the fact that we'e flanked by towns with higher population and higher crime rates, both of which spill into SO. |
Kitchenguru
Citizen
Username: Kitchenguru
Post Number: 58
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 9:54 am: |
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Everyone's always talking about crime and crime rates here. Can someone please give me a comprehensive source for getting the specifics. I'd like to know what crimes are committed and where. Thanks. |
Spitz
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Username: Doublea
Post Number: 1649
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 9:55 am: |
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Hey - I understand. I know that one ex-trustee on two occassions at BOT meetings said that we have "real crime" in South Orange in explaining the number of police officers. That's why I said I'm sure there would be a lot more crime if we didn't have the number of officers we have. But I'm sure there are a lot of residents who don't want to accept this. The problem is that on the one hand, the city fathers don't want to make to much of this problem, but on the other hand they have to in order to explain the number of officers.
And as kegel says, there is SHU, for which we receive no payment from SHU. Of course, Montclair has Montclair State.
I did mention SOPAC because so far, in discussing SOPAC, no mention has been made of the fact that we're going to need additional officers, which I'm sure will be necessary. It's just another cost that has to be attributed to SOPAC.
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K_soze
Citizen
Username: K_soze
Post Number: 29
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 10:05 am: |
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Spitz - those stats refer to the dept's TOTAL officer make-up, you have to subtact the ones who have desk jobs, the ones who are of rank, and the ones with investigative duties then you're left with the actual # of cops who work the street. Then you have to calculate how many officers actually work at a given time.......that's the real # of officers charged with protecting the entire town and it's residents. Throw in what Kegal said, what if there's a party at the university's student center, lets say there's 200 people attending, a large fight breaks out, for arguments sake we'll say half of them leave, 80 of them stick around to watch the the ten who are actually fighting with another ten standing around instigating and getting others riled up. SO sends it's 3 available officers.........
What does this have to do with u-turns, nothing directly but what do you think's happening while people are driving like nuts in the center of town? things like that will sometimes go unnoticed when the relatively small # of officers actually on the road are tied up with other calls. |
Spitz
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Username: Doublea
Post Number: 1650
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 10:13 am: |
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Thanks for the explanation. Can you help explain a little about the statement that we have "real crime" in SO, and it also would go towards answering guru's question. I have no doubt it's a sensitive subject, but perhaps would help explain things a little. |
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