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Bailey
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Username: Baileymac
Post Number: 216
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 9:32 am: | 
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I "borrowed" Artnet.com's photo of the Tau in NY and removed our gazebo.
That Tau has been stripped of paint. We'll no doubt have to repaint ours too, so we'll see it like this at times.
The link to the original photo is:
http://artnet.com/Magazine/reviews/walrobinson/robinson8-2-16.asp
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MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 3841
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 9:40 am: |
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nice job, Bailey.
I think that looks like the right scale.
I can now certainly see how that will draw hoards of tourists to our town.  |
Josh Holtz
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Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 388
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 9:50 am: |
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Yeah ... but where did the train station go? |
John Caffrey
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Username: Jerseyjack
Post Number: 163
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 10:14 am: |
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I still think it's plug-ugly! |
Lizziecat
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Username: Lizziecat
Post Number: 1150
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 10:18 am: |
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Yeah, they'll come, alright. To laugh. |
Shanabana
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Username: Shanabana
Post Number: 296
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 10:39 am: |
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Attractive? No...Mimimalism never is, really. In sculpture, at least, it was not the goal.
The gazeebo, on the other hand, is simply useless. I walked by it the other day thinking Why the Heck did someone spend the money erecting a gazeebo, with no benches underneath, and no protection from the birds. The only use the gazeebo has is to provide bird housing and plenty of nasty crap on the sidewalk, or the head if you're not careful.
I can already see my kids running around the Tony Smith, playing hide and seek, and happily avoiding bird poop.
(Hey, I'm just trying to look on the bright side.) |
SOrising
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Username: Sorising
Post Number: 276
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 10:46 am: |
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Well, it looks like a huge pidgeon perch and toilet to me, Shanbana, an incredibly hideous one at that.
Benches could be added to the gazebo at far less than this will cost. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 9154
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 10:50 am: |
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steel
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Username: Steel
Post Number: 1020
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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Way cool. (before Dave got his hands on it)
But wait, wasn't Gil Gazebo also a world-famous South Orange son?
-Bringing his unique vision for little outdoor shelters to only a few select communities?
(and don't forget Fred Fountain)
Tau goes the battle? You guys should feel so very very ordinary. -Maplewood is getting some highly exclusive and special Astro Turf, -we shall be the (green with) envy of all the art world!
And we only had to somehow raise $1.6 MILLION to get it! (it would have cost even more but sadly it is not part of a limited edition).
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Frankly, I'm not the least bit surprised at much of the anger of some of S.O. residents over this proposal. I used to think that it was just because so many other things on the Ave have been F'_d up for so long. -However I've come to the conclusion that the truth is because although a lot of towns and people love to pay lip service to being "cultured" and "active in the arts" and to think of themselves in that regard, most people when it really comes right down to it just want pretty things that "match" or at least something that in their view is "entertaining". -And they sure as Hell don't want to PAY for anything else. If anyone doubts that, you have merely to check the "arts" section of the the very artful NYTimes, -It is daily, almost always about TV and movies. -So be it. People be people. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 9156
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:04 am: |
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2809
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:06 am: |
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MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 3843
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:16 am: |
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Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2810
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:21 am: |
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Anyone want to photoshop the trustees?  |
Brett Weir
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Username: Brett_weir
Post Number: 1439
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:23 am: |
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It looks like the Guns of Navarone should be sticking out of it. Maybe we could add miniatures of Gregory Peck and his commando team scaling up the side... |
jamie
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Username: Jamie
Post Number: 474
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 3844
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:42 am: |
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Jamie,
You left off the "punch line":
We're more than oranges...we're bananas...  |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 9158
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:43 am: |
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topped with NUTS |
TK South Orange
Citizen
Username: Tk_south_orange
Post Number: 354
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:46 am: |
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oh my god - i thought it was at least a statue of a person or something - what the hell is that?
It is ugly - and kind of looks like an ad for commerce bank - are the going to color it red? Why would they put such a big hulking piece of nothing there?
Why not something pretty? happy? |
steel
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Username: Steel
Post Number: 1022
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:49 am: |
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That's hysterical: -"Why not something pretty? happy?" Too much. No, Perfect.
Did I forget to mention that "comedy" is also part of the arts?
Perhaps they will erect a giant 20' Irish Drum as a tribute to another of South Orange's favorite sons. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 9159
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:50 am: |
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Because this better illustrates our debt burden and rising taxes.
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steel
Citizen
Username: Steel
Post Number: 1023
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:53 am: |
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Nevermind, I think they should put the giant drum sculpture in another town.
Then a lot of people could beat it out of town when the Tau goes up.
-Sorry 'bout that, could.....not......resist. |
TK South Orange
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Username: Tk_south_orange
Post Number: 355
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 11:58 am: |
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:-) Well - it just looks like a giant rock!
And why would it make this place a tourist destination if all the tourists in NY could already see it there? |
Pizzaz
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Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 3437
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 12:01 pm: |
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Why doesn't the Tau photoshopped by Bailey look like the one posted by Jamie? |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 9161
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 12:04 pm: |
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It looks different from different angles. It's a nice piece, but it doesn't belong on Sloan and it shouldn't be billed to taxpayers after all the lies and budget bloat. |
Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 504
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 12:08 pm: |
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Dude doesn't anyone else notice that the sculpture is eating that guy? If people start going missing...we know why! |
Bailey
Citizen
Username: Baileymac
Post Number: 218
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 12:17 pm: |
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Dave, the Pac-man is great!
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Stuart0628
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Username: Stuart0628
Post Number: 255
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 12:37 pm: |
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Take the Ms. Pac-Man machine out of Bunny's and put it under the trestles. Villagers would only need to pump in a couple million quarters to fund this art project.
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Josh Holtz
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Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 391
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 12:47 pm: |
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I think I see Tau in a different light - it completely reminds me of The Glerp - a book I used to read to my son. What's interesting about the Glerp is that it eats everything in its path until it gets so bloated and distorted that it can't move anymore. Ultimately, it has to spew it all up to right itself.
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Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2813
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 12:49 pm: |
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Wasn't that in a South Park episode? And they stopped it after it merged with Sally Struthers? |
steel
Citizen
Username: Steel
Post Number: 1024
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 12:52 pm: |
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How's this? -Happy enough?
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steel
Citizen
Username: Steel
Post Number: 1025
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 12:54 pm: |
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Or maybe this? I call it, "Matching Sofa and Drapes".
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Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 393
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 1:01 pm: |
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Rastro: Didn't see the episode - but the use of Ms. Struthers in a cartoon is damn funny.
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SO1969
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Username: Bklyn1969
Post Number: 264
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 1:45 pm: |
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Steel - put whatever you want, with your money, in your house. If you want to donate it to a public space (I mean a real donation) and there is a public body willing to accept it, do so.
Bailey - would you mind posting a few "before" shots of the gazebo? Different angles, if you have them.
I think the juxtaposition will be useful for any trustees who are having second thoughts.
I hope the happy gazebo photos don't overwhelm steel. |
Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2816
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 1:55 pm: |
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Josh, my mistake. Not Sally Struthers. Rosie O'Donnell. It was the Trapper Keeper episode.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/display_episode.php?season=4&id1=413&id2=60 &offset=1&go=24 |
Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 509
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 2:40 pm: |
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I like the birdie. |
joel dranove
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Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 322
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 3:09 pm: |
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I wish to apologize to all who were offended by my description of tau as welded metal.
It seems some were offended by my harsh words, and my brazen repetition of them.
Now, I see that here, in South Orange, the artist has matched the early twentieth century architecture of the train trestle and station with his mid-twentieth century welded metal thing, and that all is well.
Who needs a gazebo and fountain, when a large metal shape is available for the asking, or, for a half million dollars.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 514
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 3:18 pm: |
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I agree. That hunk'0'junk trainstation should be removed and a hundred tony smith statues should be put in its place! |
Camnol
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Username: Camnol
Post Number: 301
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 3:52 pm: |
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If you paint it red, you might be able to get Commerce Bank to sponsor it. Reminds me of their logo. |
joel dranove
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Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 325
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 4:10 pm: |
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The lady in red top is uplifted by the gaussian fields emanating from the tau.
jd |
joel dranove
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Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 326
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 4:11 pm: |
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Just move the benches, or add several more.
jd |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 9176
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 4:13 pm: |
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SoOrLady
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Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 3221
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 4:18 pm: |
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Ya'll just crack me up!! |
Shanabana
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Username: Shanabana
Post Number: 297
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 4:29 pm: |
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 I'm totally into the commerce bank atm inserted into the Smith. It does fit, provides shelter from birds, and I won't have to drive to Union anymore!
Also, pinpoints the fact that minimalism has basically become corporate art. Usually best installed in one of those "public spaces" between corporate highrises. Not in downtown South Orange. |
MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 3848
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 4:40 pm: |
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And just think, with a $2 transaction fee, we only need the ATM to be used 250,000 times to pay for the whole thing.
(that's ONLY 23 times each day for 30 YEARS!) |
Bailey
Citizen
Username: Baileymac
Post Number: 221
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 9:53 pm: |
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A few "before" pics..
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Bailey
Citizen
Username: Baileymac
Post Number: 222
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 9:59 pm: |
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kegel
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Username: Kegel
Post Number: 17
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 1:38 am: |
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I understand where the town is coming from. The gazebo HAS to go. There is absolutly no other way to get rid of those dirty birds. It's not like they could just put up chicken wire or something.... oh... wait... |
K_soze
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Username: K_soze
Post Number: 33
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 5:25 am: |
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Is that really what it's gonna look like? 
art or not, it's ugly |
joel dranove
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Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 335
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 8:39 am: |
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We bought for 500K a "gift" from the copyright holder, the estate of a lesser known artist.
We have a permit to pay a metal welder to copy it, so long as we place it where some offspring of the artist demands it be situated.
So, the 100K gazebo will be destroyed, as will the fountain.
You are looking at another copy, probably of the one at Hunter College, transposed via Adobe Photoshop to the site of the gazebo.
Yes, it is ugly.
jd |
Bob K
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11161
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 9:34 am: |
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I don't think it is ugly, but I don't think it fits in where the VB and, apparently, the heirs want it. Sloan Street has been all done up to be "traditional", Tau certainly isn't traditional, although I agree the Gazebo is wasted space.
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joel dranove
Citizen
Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 338
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 10:42 am: |
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IF Cally had placed benches under the gazebo, we would love it.
jd |
SO1969
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Username: Bklyn1969
Post Number: 266
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 9:04 am: |
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Thank you, Bailey.
Much appreciated. |
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