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Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 405
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 9:37 pm: | 
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I hear that NJ Transit has inspected and has 21 days
to get back with the results!!(?)!! Meanwhile the
Village Diner is stuck with all the normal fixed costs
(insurance, taxes, rent etc.) day in and day out while
not taking in one thin dime...
You'd think they'd (NJ Transit) be a tad more responsive to
the community, especially the business community.
And what's the big deal with inspection anyway? It's a diner
replacing a diner! It takes 21 days to...what? I just don't
get it. |
michael brant
Citizen
Username: Mbrant
Post Number: 245
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 10:17 am: |
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This diner is like most diners a major draw for the town. It will draw crowds for breakfast, lunch and dinner. It will become a meeting place for people. It is absolutely unconscionable that it takes this long to get the inspector to give the ok to open.
I am very sure that if our Calabrese or Gross made the necessary calls it would speed it up. Although they do not control this location as far as inspections go I would believe if they put pressure on NJT it would help.
What we all can do is once it opens support it!! |
cmontyburns
Citizen
Username: Cmontyburns
Post Number: 1810
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 10:40 am: |
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Where do you "hear" details like these?
I'm going to guess what you heard was one side griping about the other, and you don't have the whole story. |
mjc
Citizen
Username: Mjc
Post Number: 1108
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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If I recall, it took Coldstone what seemed like months to get clearances from NJT (or county, or whoever signs off on food services on that property). They lost almost all of their first summer season, unable to open until sometime around Labor Day. Very costly for the merchants trying to go into business at that location. |
Pizzaz
Supporter
Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 3576
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 11:07 am: |
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I heard.... don't know how factual...but many of the improvements installed were done without permit and required inspections. I think the state inspector is now pulling tail for the lack of compliance to stipulated procedures. |
michael brant
Citizen
Username: Mbrant
Post Number: 246
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 11:48 am: |
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Well, unfortunately it will take longer than he planned but I welcome the new diner! The other one was disgusting! So I will make sure that I eat there as often as I can! I looked in last week as the door was open and it looks great!
I cant wait! |
Howard
Citizen
Username: Conehead
Post Number: 24
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 4:11 pm: |
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I thought the Diner was doing purely cosmetic renovation and not construction and therefore didn't need construction permits?
mjc, Cold Stone Creamery went through the following: NJT had to initially approve the construction plans (which took almost 2 months) submitted to them in Feb. The plans were then submitted to the State DCA (Dept of Community Affairs) dept of project review. That took another 3 months for review before permits were issued and construction could begin. Once construction started (July), the DCA perfomed the site inspections which for the most part were timely.
If the Diner needed permits, then I assume they have to go through the same review process. If they did not get the necessary approvals from NJT or the DCA first, I expect it could be a long while before they open. |
peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1936
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 5:58 pm: |
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and while we're at it -- how about Town Hall Deli?
/p |
Soparents
Citizen
Username: Soparents
Post Number: 283
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 6:05 pm: |
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I'm with you Pete....
I miss those Sloppy Joes!!! When can we get them back????? |
vermontgolfer
Supporter
Username: Vermontgolfer
Post Number: 428
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 10:53 pm: |
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My wife saw activity today on THD, maybe not to far away, hopefully!
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Matt Foley
Citizen
Username: Mattfoley
Post Number: 646
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 10:55 pm: |
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If people really want Sloppy Joes back sooner than THD can provide them. You can PL me. I promise I can get them made by one of the original owners. I did this x-mas, super bowl, and a baptism. It will take some begging on my part. But, I can deliver on this. |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 3883
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, May 6, 2006 - 10:44 am: |
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Matt: How are Jack & Ronny? Are they still local? What's their take on the new THD location, etc.?
-s. |
MARK CLAYTON
Citizen
Username: Bob_barker
Post Number: 17
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 5:11 pm: |
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Matt i,ll be glad too lend you a hand in the art of joe making. It,s still great to do |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 3900
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 10:41 pm: |
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This ain't exactly rocket science, folks. Given the proper quality of ingredients, just about any of you MOLers out there (with care, patience, and a certain artistic anal-retentiveness) should be able to DIY, as I've been doing for lo these many months since THD went away.
My personal Joes are combos of turkey, ham, & swiss with Russian & slaw on thinly-sliced seedless (or occasionally Russian) rye. The loaves I get are not the big square dealies that THD uses, but they provide slices big enough to put a serious dent in my hunger.
I hope Mark &/or Matt get the opportunity to make some of you happy by creating some Sloppy Joes for you. Please take them up on their generous offer, and keep monitoring the new THD site for evidence of progress.
Meanwhile, here's how it was done at the old THD...
-s. |
John Caffrey
Citizen
Username: Jerseyjack
Post Number: 234
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 12:08 pm: |
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Monday, 5:00 a.m. |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 499
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 1:36 pm: |
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I thought between 5:00 and 6:00. Early, anyway. |
John Caffrey
Citizen
Username: Jerseyjack
Post Number: 237
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 1:39 pm: |
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Correction: 5:30
JC |
spw784
Supporter
Username: Spw784
Post Number: 893
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 5:24 pm: |
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Will they be offering delivery? |
John Caffrey
Citizen
Username: Jerseyjack
Post Number: 242
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 9:09 am: |
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They expect to offer delivery after they get established. |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 505
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 4:40 pm: |
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Just had a sandwich at Manny's and was told
that they'd be opening the Village Diner in
South Orange at 6AM. |
John Caffrey
Citizen
Username: Jerseyjack
Post Number: 246
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 5:48 pm: |
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Let me offer what I hope will be a final correction to the question of when the Village Diner will open: sometime tomorrow morning. There! |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 4087
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 5:52 pm: |
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The sign in the window of the Diner says 6am on Monday. |
Steve Hickson
Citizen
Username: Shickson
Post Number: 12
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 11:25 pm: |
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Soda,
Thank you for your detailed analysis on "Building a Joe" Town Hall Deli Style---I'm sure many MOLer's are spreading slaw and russian dressing even as I post this email.
However, I must ask---how much free time do you have on your hands? While we certainly appreciate your cogent analysis of the finer points of Joe construction---including your own SJ methodologies---it does raise a basic question of why? And perhaps a larger concern about potential online addictive symptoms. In fact, I'm even questioning myself for responding to your post.
Perhaps it's time we both give the internet a rest and grab a quick sandwich! |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 507
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 5:00 am: |
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Hmmm. How is showing you online any more a waste of time than showing you in person (except that online is quicker and can get to more people)?
Sadly, the point is moot since SODA/Oracle of MOL doesn't seem to be posting anymore. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5104
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 7:40 am: |
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Steve-
Why are you picking on SODA? There are plenty of people who have posted many more notes in less time then SODA has. When you think about it SODA only posts about 780 notes a year. Breaks down to about 65 posts a month. Only 16 a week. For a grand total of 3 or so a day. That's not excessive,when you realy think about it.
What I really want to know is did anyone go to the grand opening of the diner this morning? Please report back! |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 509
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 8:18 am: |
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I'm meeting a friend there in 15 minutes or so.
Will let you know. |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 3964
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 9:44 am: |
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Scully, you're only half-right. I'm still at it, but the Oracle has been called (by that "Higher Authority" you hear about in the Hebrew National commercials) up from semi-retirement in Boca to an assignment he has only described as taking him "far away". Wherever it is he's doing whatever he's doing, he says he intends to send me periodic dispatches, which I'm supposed to post immediately on my blog. Stay tuned...
And do let us know what you think of the Village Diner!
JTA: Thanks for the quant work, but there'll always be folks who think that any posts of mine are too many.
Steve: Twelve posts and you need to step away from MOL? Either you've got a brilliant future (based upon your steely discipline and a laudible need to ask "why"), or you just need to step up and embrace your Inner Poster like the rest of us have. Either way, I hope you enjoyed your late-night sammich.
-s. |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 4089
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 9:50 am: |
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Quote:there'll always be folks who think that any posts of mine are too many.
Amen! 
P.S. Soda, PLEASE don't write a glowing review of the Diner until AFTER most people have a chance to check it out. We don't want the "Soda-Curse" to doom the place before they get a fair shake. |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 3965
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 9:56 am: |
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Fair enough.
-s. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5105
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 10:26 am: |
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Sully-
Dang! I was right there this morning about 8am after dropping someone off at the Middle School. Thought to myself "If Jamie didn't have the site down last night when I tried to post my note asking if anyone wanted to meet me there 8:15 ish" I could have met you. And as I was going around the little circle thing to head back out to South Orange Ave. I thought of you! Said to myself, "Sully works nights! I bet if I had been able to post that note last night I would have found an "I'll meet you there' post this morning! Maybe another day this week? |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 510
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 2:37 pm: |
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JTA;
Sure! I'll PL you with my schedule and you
can let me know yours.
BTW, it's 'Scully', with a 'c'.
Later! |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 3968
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 2:40 pm: |
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http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=62746&post=610413#POST610 413 |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 511
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 5:39 pm: |
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Soda! Thanks! I thought you were going to take a hiatus from posting?!
Good to see you! |
peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1964
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 7:38 pm: |
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Just had a very nice dinner there! My 10 year old proclaimed the decor "too fancy" compared to Manny's, however... ;-)
Staff trying hard (maybe a bit too hard, they are doing a fine job!), food great (was told "today everything is fresh!"). I had the gyro -- very well prepared.
We'll go back on the weekend when they have hot dogs... (10 year old settled for the spaghetti & meat ball, would have preferred hot dogs!)
Chocolate cake gets the thumbs up, too.
What a great addition to the village!
Pete |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5114
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 7:48 pm: |
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Peter
No hot dogs during the week? Or is it because they are still getting settled in? |
SouthOrangeNanny
Citizen
Username: Sonanny
Post Number: 164
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 8:28 am: |
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i went for dinner....same old diner food.the owner came out and talk to every table and offered them cake..but not us (grr) but i did have to test the cheesecake...it was great...service was good... prices the same as any diner...nothing really to jump about but i'll go back. |
SO1969
Citizen
Username: Bklyn1969
Post Number: 311
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 8:53 am: |
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The thing to jump about is it is first rate diner food and it is in the center of our village.
Furthermore, it is above average in appearance and, based on Manny's, it will stay that way.
This is very different from a certain bagel shop that serves perfectly passable food, but is disgusting and depressing to walk into. Even some of the places that I like in SO that aren't totally disgusting are pretty well worn around the heel. It is very nice to see a good business run by folks that are willing to invest in their establishment's appearance and take pride in maintaining it.
This will be a true asset to South Orange. This is indeed worthy of jumping about.
p.s. Cheesecake was excellent as was chicken cordon bleu sandwich. Penne rustica was good too. I've enjoyed many a gyro at Manny's and am sure they'll be excellent at the Village Diner.
p.p.s. The cake being given out may have been a cake given to Village Diner by the staff at Cold Stone Creamery (and may have run out). We were there for the gift giving. It was a great show of neighborliness. I was on a South Orange high and told myself I wouldn't kill the buzz by watching the BOT meeting when I got home...for the most part I avoided it, but did surf by and heard this new one from Calabrese "the State wants it(Tony Smith sculpture) on Sloan Street and they're paying for it." (totally wrong - State not paying for it - and idiotic even if it were true - we're going to let Trenton tell us to put a big modern sculpture on a street with historic buildings, huh?) Two ends of the spectrum in one night, the best and worst things happening on Sloan Street this year. |
vermontgolfer
Supporter
Username: Vermontgolfer
Post Number: 442
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 8:57 am: |
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Went for breakfast this morning and had an enjoyable, pleasant meal. Place looks nice, menu is typical, as is pricing. Service was prompt and courteous and as SO1969, right in the heart of town.
Try it out! |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5121
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 9:01 am: |
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Who, in the state wants the Tony Smith Sculpture on Sloan Street? Did anyone think to ask that question? I'd love to get a name. Then we can call this person to ask. |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 4100
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 9:28 am: |
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I'm the last person to make excuses for Calabrese, but maybe he said the "Estate", instead of the "State"? Let's wait until the video is posted & we can review what was actually said. In any event, his return to the lies about the Grant and the "switch" came up again, which was what annoyed me.
Anyway...back to the thread about the Diner....I can't wait to try it this weekend. |
joel dranove
Citizen
Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 497
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 9:42 am: |
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I thought his explanation, cut short by the much sharper Mr. Rosen, would be exhibit 1 in the government's case.
jd |
SO1969
Citizen
Username: Bklyn1969
Post Number: 312
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 9:48 am: |
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He may have said "Estate." I'll wait for the tape. |
FlyingSpaghettiMonst
Citizen
Username: Noodlyappendage
Post Number: 145
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 9:58 am: |
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He said "ESTATE". |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5127
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 10:12 am: |
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Anyone interested in an early morning get together at the new diner this Thursday? |
Soparents
Citizen
Username: Soparents
Post Number: 381
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 10:18 am: |
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I have just come back from the diner. Very nice...
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TK South Orange
Citizen
Username: Tk_south_orange
Post Number: 386
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 10:30 am: |
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I had a turkey BLT there (to go) yesterday when I got off the train - was pretty tasty! |
ril
Citizen
Username: Ril
Post Number: 537
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 11:00 am: |
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do they have a website? is the menu online? |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 523
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:05 pm: |
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JTA:
How early? Opening time? |
Nancy - LibraryLady
Supporter
Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 3475
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:12 pm: |
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More inportant for me is closing time????? |
SO1969
Citizen
Username: Bklyn1969
Post Number: 313
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:13 pm: |
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I think I heard hours would be 6am to 10pm.
But I also thought I heard State and not ESTATE, so, a grain of salt is needed. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5135
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 8:46 pm: |
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Scully
I couldn't go before 8:15am. It's hard enough for me to get where I need to be at 7am and I get up at 5:30.Or we can do something for lunch Friday. |
jeep
Citizen
Username: Jeep
Post Number: 136
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 9:44 am: |
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What a difference a owner makes. It was always busy with the original owner. Then the last owner destroyed the place and now it seems to be booming again!!! It is a great place to have back!!! |
Kibbegirl
Citizen
Username: Kibbegirl
Post Number: 597
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 6:48 pm: |
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Ate there this a.m. with my friend and we had a great b'kfst! She had eggs and hash and I had the feta cheese & spinach omelette -- YUMMY! The service was great! Such a difference from the "Blue Moon". |
Matt Foley
Citizen
Username: Mattfoley
Post Number: 655
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 9:35 pm: |
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My hands look sooooo.... good. |
Matt Foley
Citizen
Username: Mattfoley
Post Number: 656
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 9:38 pm: |
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Soda, Jack & Ron are both still in the area. Jack is doing well after a heart procedure. Ron is in business in Morris county. |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 3975
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 9:01 am: |
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Merci, Mr. Foley.
-s. |
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