| Author | Message | ||
     wolfy Citizen Username: Locowolfy Post Number: 51 Registered: 10-2005 |
Boy if this place dont look like s**t!! If a homeowner had this place in this condition, you know the POWERS that BE would be sending ordinance letters by the droves! FINES ETC> This debacle demands the towns action. WHOOPS IT IS THE TOWNS!!!!! sorry, I just see this mess everyday and wonder, where will it go from here!! | ||
| michael brant Citizen Username: Mbrant Post Number: 147 Registered: 10-2005 |
Wolfy....did you not hear that dump is part of calabreses vision for the future of south orange. Good job don't you think? | ||
| wolfy Citizen Username: Locowolfy Post Number: 52 Registered: 10-2005 |
M.B. I hope that your message is in a sarcastic vein! I was raised in SO and still live here, at 60 years of age (now) I have seen many and vast projects undertaken in THE VILLAGE. NEVER has the town done SO much visible damage then in the last few years of revitilizing this VILLAGE! It is positively sickening! The gestapo tactics and underhanded dealings have slowed progress to a crawl, it has done the town NO good to slow the traffic down "to promote better visiblity" other than to show the local drivers the discusting presence that is now VERY visible!! thanks for listening!! RANT only just begun!! | ||
| michael brant Citizen Username: Mbrant Post Number: 150 Registered: 10-2005 |
Mr. Wolfy did you vote mr. Calabreses in? | ||
| wolfy Citizen Username: Locowolfy Post Number: 53 Registered: 10-2005 |
I MOST assuredly did NOT!!!! | ||
| Howard Levison Citizen Username: Levisonh Post Number: 488 Registered: 1-2004  |
Just take a close look at how the siding is coming off the face of ShopRite. This is a hazardous condition. | ||
| Spitz Supporter Username: Doublea Post Number: 1516 Registered: 3-2003 |
The plywood has been missing from two or three windows for a very long time now, leaving gaping holes. It seems this should be a code violation. If not a code violation, at least cover the holes back up with plywood. It's disgusting and ugly. | ||
| jayjay Citizen Username: Jayjayp Post Number: 481 Registered: 6-2005 |
They should tear down the whole building. Its a mess and a disgrace. I see no redeeming value in it being rehabilitated, if it is ever to happen. The one that should have been restored was the flat iron builing which they did tear down. If the truth be told, there should have been a comprehensive plan put together aournd the total downtown, as they did in Livingston Center, and then use the powers of government to make it happen. This piecemeal approach is going to look just that. I fear a real hodgepodge. The one choesive element is the chain link fence all around the downtown. Our own version of the Christo gates. | ||
| Kibbegirl Citizen Username: Kibbegirl Post Number: 426 Registered: 5-2003 |
I went to the S.O. library today and for the first time, got a bird's eye view of that big, open, nasty space which used to be the liquor stores, et. al. I told my husband that if we did not live in S.O. and were looking to buy, we would have chosen Montclair instead. This place looks like a ghetto sometimes. What the hell? Do our taxes and median range income dictate such travesty? And what really gets me is that Calabrese, Taylor, and the rest of the Bad News Bears, all live in S.O.! They act as though they don't see the "Coming Soon" signs and nothing occurs, or empty lots of land or boarded up store fronts. WHAT THE HELL?! | ||
| jayjay Citizen Username: Jayjayp Post Number: 482 Registered: 6-2005 |
Look at the video of Monday's BOT meeting. You'll see that the Board could care less about the Saiyd properties. You'd think they did not have condemnation powers. How long are we supposed to look at that site? And Beifus...they are content to let him do his thing at whatever pace he chooses to do it. What's the point of having a developer's agreement if no one chooses to enforce it? Calabrese excused Beifus because they found things (water) in construction that they had not banked on. Excuse me, they are next to the river. Duh! 4 years to discover this. | ||
| Kibbegirl Citizen Username: Kibbegirl Post Number: 427 Registered: 5-2003 |
As I understand it, Beifus owns a now boarded up (or papered up) property on Valley next to the now defunct Gulf station that he also owns. There's something terribly wrong with the management of this Village and something extremely wrong with Calabrese for not giving a sh*t about what this place looks like! Between the taxes and the incompetence, what does the Village hold for us? Mr. Beifus seems to do a-okay here -- CHA-CHING! | ||
| Agrackle Citizen Username: Agrackle Post Number: 23 Registered: 2-2004 |
Maybe we should get one of those giant, blow-up rats that the unions use in NYC and picket in front Mr. Beifus' Mercedes dealership...or perhaps his home since he clearly doesn't give a crap about what he's doing to our town. | ||
| peteglider Citizen Username: Peteglider Post Number: 1863 Registered: 8-2002 |
Throw out Beifus, Sayid, and the other amateur, home grown developers. Bring in the professionals. | ||
| Kibbegirl Citizen Username: Kibbegirl Post Number: 428 Registered: 5-2003 |
peteglider, you said it, man! Beifus & Sayid are NOT developers! How loudly can we make that clear to Calabrese, et.al? Let the professionals come in, and not for PILOT, and have them turn this place into a show room. Our old B'klyn neighborhood held more charm than S.O. -- and we lived in E. Flatbush! Go figure! | ||
| Howard Levison Citizen Username: Levisonh Post Number: 493 Registered: 1-2004 |
I see that someone pulled off the hazardous siding from the front of the Old ShopRite - Thanks. Also, it was impression that the new ordinance for fencing off construction sites required screening. What is up with the Vose pit? | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 3577 Registered: 5-2001  |
While the "Vose pit" looks cleaner than the "Beifus pit" ever did, we seem to have the same problem that the construction fence on Vose is now completely blocking the sidewalk. | ||
| Matt Foley Citizen Username: Mattfoley Post Number: 574 Registered: 6-2004  |
i'm for the rat balloon | ||
| joel dranove Citizen Username: Jdranove Post Number: 182 Registered: 1-2006 |
rat balloon seconded jd | ||
| joel dranove Citizen Username: Jdranove Post Number: 183 Registered: 1-2006 |
How many of you who complain have gone to a board of trustees meeting and told them, live, in their faces? They don't know from MOL, except rosner, and rosen. jd | ||
| Howard Levison Citizen Username: Levisonh Post Number: 494 Registered: 1-2004 |
Joel don't be naive they read the board in real time. | ||
| Spitz Supporter Username: Doublea Post Number: 1532 Registered: 3-2003 |
Bet you they would post (or have someone else post for them) if they lost a dog.  | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 22832 Registered: 6-2001  |
Seriously, they need to do something about the sidewalk on Vose Avenue. Pedestrians are in danger along that stretch, and it's an accident waiting to happen. | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4427 Registered: 1-2004  |
Joel The BOT reads MOL. One or more of them have made reference to it druing meetings. Just last week one called MOL a 'chat room'or something like that. | ||
| bettyd Citizen Username: Badjtdso Post Number: 154 Registered: 12-2005 |
Let's change the system of government to an anuual town meeting format. Can that be done? | ||
| joel dranove Citizen Username: Jdranove Post Number: 192 Registered: 1-2006 |
So, two read it? jd | ||
| crabby Citizen Username: Crabbyappleton Post Number: 510 Registered: 1-2004 |
Calabrese cannot even deal with email, don't think he's reading MOL. | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 3856 Registered: 5-2001 |
Last night we learned the latest excuse for delays at the Shop Rite site - not only does the Village STILL not control all properties that have been in "negotiation" since October 2005, NJ Transit supposedly has a new requirement for something that must now be submitted for design AND we are also waiting for a "No Further Action" letter from DEP on the site. Can someone say "Coming Soon"? | ||
| Bill C. Grant, BS Citizen Username: Parkingsux Post Number: 387 Registered: 6-2005  |
I think Verizon and all the underground wires have been redirected...???  ... are they willing now to tell us the truth, do they want to free themselves from the lies that has enveloped them for so many years..... I doubt it! The leadership still reeks of sewer gas and petroleum by products.... what's new with Beifus - any updates? | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 281 Registered: 2-2006 |
There were no development updates at the BOT meeting last night because the VP was not present and he would have provided them. Given how important they are, another trustee should have reported on them in his absence. | ||
| Debra Davidson Citizen Username: Peanutslady Post Number: 152 Registered: 5-2005  |
Please I work for a company that builds homes. Please I understand that it is taking a very long time to get the new market built. Please there are a lot of things that have to be done before you can build on any lot. You need to have the place inspected to make sure there is nothing harmful in the lot like old chemicals and poisons. You also have to make sure that land is capable of handling the building size you want to build. I do not think you would want the building sinking into the ground? These are just some of the things that need to be done before you can build on a lot. The lot has to be safe or you can't build on it. Please It takes time for all the necessary safety inspections to be done. Once they are done and the lot is declared safe then you can build on it. After the building is built it then must be inspected to make sure everything meats all the safety code before anyone can use it. Please be patient and we will get the kind of market we want here in South Orange. | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4663 Registered: 1-2004 |
MHD I think you mean 'Coming NEVER!!!' Right? So, who are we going to get to run for the BOT in the next election? | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4664 Registered: 1-2004 |
Debra- My brother is a builder. It doesn't take this long to build something. This has been going on for at least eight years. I might agree with you if it was only one site with problems. But there are at least a half dozen. Enough already. | ||
| PARROT HEAD Citizen Username: Island_jack Post Number: 131 Registered: 3-2004  |
It didn't take this long to build the Roman Colosseum. And Debra PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, use the word please again...we didn't see it enough. I'm happy to see that there are so many other people who realize how screwed up this town is. Sayid is not a developer. Beifus is not a developer. Shop-Rite should've been done 1 year after it closed. The parking lot behind Shop-Rite should be a parking lot, not a development. The SOPAC should be a parking lot for Bunny's. The "River Walk" should not even be considered. (THERE'S NO F***ING RIVER) The half-a-million dollar sculpture should be dropped on the head of the person that even thought it would be a good idea......And So On! I've said it before....Stop trying to make South Orange a nice place to visit and start making South Orange a nice place to live. Think about the residents FIRST! Keep in mind (whoever likes to show my posts to the Big People) this is only MY OPINION!!!!! | ||
| Stevef Citizen Username: Stevef Post Number: 199 Registered: 5-2005  |
Debra, It may take time to BUILD something, but to START TO BUILD SOMETHING shouldn't take 5 years. | ||
| jayjay Citizen Username: Jayjayp Post Number: 576 Registered: 6-2005 |
Parrot Head- We need more people to tell it like it is, AND to go to BOT meetings and let them know we are mad as hell and not going to take it any more! And to vote these guys out of office!!!! | ||
| Lucy Supporter Username: Lucy Post Number: 3418 Registered: 5-2005  |
Parrot Head a nice place to live. Common sense you are so right you nailed it!Amen! | ||
| Lucy Smith Citizen Username: Lucy123 Post Number: 107 Registered: 6-2005 |
saw something very funny (and sad at the same time) yesterday...a woman driving her car down Vose going towards SOAve decided that the two pedestrians forced to walk in the street along the parked cars in front of the pit that used to be shop rite were a nuisance to her. She proceeds to lay on the horn at them as she slowly drives by them and stares. (they were single file and as close to the cars as they could get without being impaled by the side mirrors-from what i could see from across the street). the one pedestrian proceeded to give the woman the finger! the woman in the car gives the finger back (with her child in the back seat). it really was a funny sight...but in a sad sort of way that this is what our town has been reduced to. horn honking and finger giving just for taking a stroll down vose avenue. i think if drivers have an issue like this woman does with the people forced to walk in the street they need to take it up with the BOT. don't take it out on the pedestrians...where would you like them to go???? | ||
| joel dranove Citizen Username: Jdranove Post Number: 344 Registered: 1-2006 |
Kind of like the finger the BOT gives us every day. jd | ||
| Debra Davidson Citizen Username: Peanutslady Post Number: 153 Registered: 5-2005 |
I agree it should not take 5 years to get thing built here in south Orange. What we do not know about is what they found in these sites especial The Buffis site. It was a car dealer ship. Now I do not know if they did any car reapers on the site? If they did who knows what kind of chemicals they found in the ground there that may have leaked out of cars. I also do not know how long it takes to clean up environmental things. The other things is I think South Orange government could not make up there mines on what they wanted to do with the sites and who was going to get the contract to do the building. I wish South Orange did not drag it's feet on redevelopment. I think they should have held an open town meeting and asked us the residents of South Orange what we want and need here. I really wish they would get things moving. Enough is enough. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 2864 Registered: 5-2004  |
Debra, the state Department of Environmental Protection came out and said there was no hazardous material on site. This should have been done years ago. It is not up to SO to determine who gets to develop this site (Beifus). It is privately owned, and they (the BOT) have shown no interest (other than Mark Rosner) to consider taking the property and giving it to another developer. |
