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mjh
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Post Number: 546
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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"..........the overwhelming concern about the gun"

Six people talking to each other ad naueseum is an "overwhelming response"? Really?

The gun may be idiotic, but so is this thread.
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Soparents
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Post Number: 400
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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's still there, but driving along there yesterday I had to take a second look. It looked almost "gone" but, looking again, and maybe I was at a bad angle, it looked really manky and derelict. It could be the angle I was at, or it could be grass etc growing, I don't know, but it didn't look as apparent as it did when I first saw it.

I am taking the kids up that way later on to let out some energy, so I am sure to see it then....
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Soda
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Post Number: 3972
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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Today's Picturesque Speech Award goes to Soparents, for "manky and derelict".

Way to go!!!

Keep up the good work.

-s.
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Mayor McCheese
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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am waiting for the day I hear that someone destroyed this thing in the middle of the night, or better yet, rearranged the flowers into something else.
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talk-it-up
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Post Number: 227
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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 9:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a great idea. Maybe we can wake up and in the morning it might have turned into a giant dove or something!

Great idea.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheesey-
Where have you been? When it first appeared someone did mess up part of it in the middle of the night.

mjh-
Do you live on any of the streets that border the park? Do you have children who play sports on those fields? Do you have children who walk to the Middle School past the field each day?
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Mayor McCheese
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Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A dove? I was thinking more like a pistol.
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mjh
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Post Number: 551
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Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 6:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JTA: No, yes, no
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Shanabana
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Post Number: 437
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Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 9:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Soda
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SUMMER OUTDOOR CONCERTS IN THE PARK, free live music
Every Wednesday in July at 7:30pm in Meadowland Park at Flood’s Hill
July 5: Marta Topferova Quartet, sultry, vocals, a cuatro guitar, a new dimension to Latin song
July 12: Maya, a little R&B, a little Blues, a little Hip-Hop, she’s got it all.
July 19: Janis Ian, the pop-folk legend with 2 Grammies
July 26: Winard Harper Sextet, extraordinary drummer, straight ahead jazz


Nice Lineup, huh?

-S.
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Dave
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 3:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks good.
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mjc
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 3:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lizzie, a little history in response to your 5/24 post that the gallery director "has her job only because she is the widow of the person after whom it is named" -

Judy and Len created the gallery from scratch, everything from the concept to design to painting the walls to bringing in the artists. The gallery was only renamed in Len's honor after he passed away several years later. For what it's worth, it's my understanding that Judy is also the moving force behind the summer (and winter) music series, but someone could correct me on that. The gallery, and probably other cultural events in town, would not exist without Judy's ideas and long-term work, first as a volunteer and continuing as the arts part of the arts and rec department. I wouldn't want anyone to think based on your post that she's simply a bon-bon-eating, board-sitting lady-who-lunches.

cheers -

MC
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MHD
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 4:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave,

For a more extensive and youthful music lineup, checkout the free outdoor concerts in Hoboken that run all Summer along the waterfront with amazing views of the city skyline: http://www.hobokeni.com/musicatsinatrapark.asp
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Mary32
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Post Number: 27
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 4:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MC,
thank you for posting Judy Wukitch's record as a volunteer and employee. She has done a lot for the town in bringing the arts - performing and visual - accessible to all. Of course in the eyes of many here on MOL her support of Tau make her evil. But happily there are plenty in town who appreciate her contributions, and who do not get influenced by the ranting of those who are blinded by their obsession with their money, who politicize everything, and who can see only the cost of things but never their value. If these people would contribute 1/10 of what Judy and others contribute to the town, instead of badmouthing everything and everybody on MOL, South Orange would be a much better place.

Just mho

Mary
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Soda
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 4:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What she said.

-s.

BTW:

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mrosner
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 4:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also, from their newsletter:


N.E.W.S. EVENT DAY, free arts event for the family
June 11, 2006, 1-4:00pm An afternoon of experience and exposure about headlines and art include free, fun, hands-on activities for the whole family! Seven art work stations for hands-on art making in various techniques and materials will be held in the Meadowland Park near the Duck Pond in South Orange. Music and theater performances by the Dreamcatcher Reperatory Theater and Red, a teenage trashcan percussion group will be going on throughout the day. An artists gallery talk will be held in the Pierro Gallery of South Orange with artists and curator, Mary Birmingham to discuss their work, content and issues. For more information on the art work stations or other activities go to www.pierrogallery.com.
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Dave
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 4:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Of course in the eyes of many here on MOL her support of Tau make her evil.




This comment is on par with the Bush administration linking Iraq to al Qaeda. The "Tau issue" is about the Board of Trustees being a deceptive legislative body and a severe lack of an open democratic process in their governing. It is not about art appreciation, artists or the Tau as Tau.
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MHD
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 4:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What he said.

-MHD

BTW http://www.notaxesfortau.com

(NOT www.notau.com)
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Parkingsux
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Post Number: 427
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 5:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What he said, again and again.....

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Soparents
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Post Number: 592
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 5:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I do not consider Judy Wukitsch to be evil... I do not know her. I have recognized her in the street as I have seen her speak at a meeting or two. I have not seen horns come out of her head or seen her breath fire....

I am not blinded by "my obsession with money". I am not blind, nor obsessed with anything else, but what I am passionate about however is the town we live in. I know the cost of things. I know it takes money to maintain if not indeed improve things. I know the value of things at times cannot be put in terms of dollars and cents, but I also know what it means to be financially responsible.

I am not a trustee. I have to have trust and faith in those elected to do their best for our town and for everyone living here, and at this moment I personally have grave concerns. I wish I didn't.

I desperately want our town to thrive - ALL aspects of our town and i'm just waiting for the day when my vision/hopes/dreams of how great a place of South Orange can be, becomes a reality and I will be the first to crack open the champagne.

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Nancy - LibraryLady
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 6:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the concert line ups and other activities,Mark Soda and MHD..it great to have so many choices near and far.


They are NOT in competetion with each other so why make it appear so MHD?

For a more extensive and youthful music lineup, checkout the free outdoor concerts in Hoboken that run all Summer along the waterfront with amazing views of the city skyline

Waterfront concerts? Nice but we aren't built on a waterfront. (Tho the view of the Duck Pond is very nice)

All Summer Long? Hoboken's population is about 2 1/2 times ours with a much large and more diversivied tax base.

Youthful? The average age of the residents of South Orange is 5 years older than Hoboken. My 23 year old son lives in Hoboken with a zillion or so other 23 year olds. Not in South Orange.

Views of the Skyline? If I drive up to the Reservation or chop down my neighbor's roof, I'd have a view too. But alas, that's not where out marvelous natural concert venue is.

We do quite well with what we have, thank you.

Everything is South Orange is not poorer, less satisfactory, second rate. So don't contually keep comparing us, except when it is applicable. This is not one of those occassons.(Tho the Library probably is air-conditioned and that I envy!)
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SO1969
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 6:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What Dave said and what Soparents said.*

* I confess to a minor obsession with the seeming total disregard for the long-term costs of deferring maintenance on village owned buildings, e.g., Village Hall, library, stone house. When the estimates for restoring village hall come in / are made known, I'm sure our eyes will pop. I believe the cost just to prevent further decay of the stone house is $500,000.

To me, it isn't that we're spending money. It is that they're so many other things that fall much closer to what I would call "essential government function expenditures" that haven't been funded. Don't give me my share of Tau back, spend it instead on higher priorities that are normal for a municipality. I suggest that anyone who isn't troubled by $250K from the Streets & Sidewalks line item of a bond issue being diverted to Tau without public input/discussion take a drive on the streets of Montrose (altho all nabes have streets and sidewalks that could use repair).
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Lizziecat
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 7:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I do not consider Judy Wukisch to be a bon bon eating lady. I do feel, however, that there is resentment directed against her and against the Pierro gallery because people feel that they have no input into what is displayed by the gallery--witness the gun. While I do not share the opinion of those who want the gallery closed and the gun removed, I do feel that Wukisch and whoever she has working with her have pushed what they thought would be "good" for the citizens of this town without asking for any input. Wukisch is a town employee--assistant director of something or other--and as such has an obligation to the people of this town. I really think that she's going to lose her job over this--the Tau and now the gun. Again, I don't necessarily want this to happen, but I think that she's going to be the one who takes the heat.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 8:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What I want to know is why the BOT has given so much time, effort and dedication to meeting the deadline demands made by Tony Smith's estate. The BOT has gone out of their way to find the money to pay for a sculpture the Village really can afford right now. In addition, they've done this without any feedback from the community; only the members of the TSSP board, which includes as it's members Bill and Eric.

Why is it this sculpture is more important then all the half finished projects already started? Shouldn't the BOT have instead directed that energy toward seeing to it we get our market? Or the library be fixed? What about the empty lots on the Ave?
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lizziecat
In response to:
"I really think that she's going to lose her job over this--the Tau and now the gun."

Wishful thinking. Won't happen, unfortunately...

What we now have with the PG is the town funding their happy little club with no concern for what others might think.
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talk-it-up
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Post Number: 233
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Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

way to go Just the Aunt

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