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PRETTYPRINCESS
Citizen
Username: Prettyprincess
Post Number: 63
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 1:19 pm: | 
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de·spic·a·ble
adjective.
Deserving of contempt or scorn; vile.
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Synonyms Related Words
1. DESCPICABLE - worthy only of being despised and rejected; "a contemptible lack of courage";
"A little, wretched, despicable creature, a worm, a mere nothing...
contemptible
ignoble - completely lacking nobility in character or quality or purpose;
"something cowardly and ignoble in his attitude";
2. despicable - morally reprehensible;
vile, unworthy, ugly
evil, wicked - morally bad or wrong; "evil purposes"; "an evil influence"; "evil deeds"
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PRETTYPRINCESS
Citizen
Username: Prettyprincess
Post Number: 64
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 1:22 pm: |
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That's my opinion on the matter. |
Pdg
Citizen
Username: Pdg
Post Number: 1075
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 1:25 pm: |
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Princess - I heard your mom speak at last night's meeting - it clearly was very upsetting and difficult for her to personally and publicly call out our unprofessional Village President, but I and many, many others supported her when she was done.
Calabrese's sneered "apology" showed him for what he was and is - a clueless and inept buffoon.
I hope you and your family can put this ugliness behind you now and continue with great success in your family business where generations have enjoyed themselves!  |
susan1014
Supporter
Username: Susan1014
Post Number: 1715
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 1:52 pm: |
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I particularly liked his admission that he actually wouldn't know a thing about his allegation, since he only drinks Coke(?)
Don't worry -- none of us believe him on what he said about Bunny's, any more than we believe him on a number of other local issues. |
bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 23679
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 1:59 pm: |
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That was very nicely said, Pdg. It took guts for Mrs. Pogany to stand up there and tell him (truthfully) that he basically accused her of a crime. And it was completely indecent of him to try shrugging her off and claiming he was talking to himself. WTF?
I just hope we can get these precious moments of the BOT out to the voters next spring so they can see exactly *what* is representing their interests. |
SOrising
Citizen
Username: Sorising
Post Number: 532
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:37 pm: |
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Bets, you asked about the altercation between Jennings and Moore-Abrams. M-A asked J a few very specific questions about her secret meeting. J would not give her a straight answer but insisted on rambling on for a long time about why she called the meeting, etc., most of which was off point. M-A understandably grew impatient with her, at nearly 1 AM or whatever time it was by that time. Jennings has an annoying habit of wanting to "educate" people to her point of view while avoiding specific questions and topics asked of her or under discussion. She appears again and again unable to follow subjects under discussion in any but the most desultory ways. Given that she takes a lot of time in her detours during public meetings, with many people in attendance, she really should try to stay on point more than she does. It was worse last night because the BOT had already squandered so much time by allowing Arnedt and Wukitsch (sp?) to ramble on and on indefinitely, repeating themselves interminably, while others with far more to say were held to strict 3-minute limits. Much more to say about these two performances later, but under these circumcumstances, in the early morning, Jennings should have been trenchant in her responses to Moore-Abrams and should have answered her questions quickly and directly. She did not.
If their disagreement was censored and the video blocked by the town, someone should start bringing a video camera for their own taping and/or live podcast, video-streaming, etc., since the town's can no longer be relied upon to show the truth. How ridiculous. Let them arrest whoever tries to film it. They will be seen for what they are: inveterate propagandists and liers who cannot bear to have the truth available to residents and others. I'd love to see anyone try to arrest someone trying to film it. What a bunch of small-minded tyrants. |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1941
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:44 pm: |
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SOrising, that fight was on camera. The other one came at the end of the meeting. As people were walking out of the room the two of them (Stacy I believe was starting it, but I'm only 90%) seemed to be having heated words again. Seeing as the meeting had officially ended and people were leaving, an ending symbol came up blocking the screen and the sound was muted. |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 4469
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:57 pm: |
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The video is finally posted online:
http://www.southorange.org/videoViewer.asp |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3639
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:59 pm: |
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Damn you! I was waiting until I finished downloading it before telling everyone. |
SoOrLady
Citizen
Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 3448
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 6:46 pm: |
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Anyone else having a problem with the download? |
SOrising
Citizen
Username: Sorising
Post Number: 535
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 7:16 am: |
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Thanks for the correction McCheese. I'll have to check the video. There were too many fights to keep straight, apparently. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5750
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 11:19 am: |
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While at Costco and Target last night I priced cameras. I am willing to fork out the money if someone else is willing to record the meetings. I'm not sure but I thought there is a way regular people can connect a camera directly to a computer to enable people to see these live. The Village Hall does have wireless connection, correct? I saw some pretty decent cameras for a couple hundred dollars. |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 4474
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 12:29 pm: |
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Pretty Princess & Leslie,
I don't want to open any wounds, but I think people should see the following clip of the outrageous way Calabrese acted AGAIN (on July 26) with regard to his inappropriate comments at the Alcohol Beverage Board (on June 27): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pd7fcvHRlM
If you watch the Original Clip you will see that he clearly was NOT walking away when he made his comments. |
PRETTYPRINCESS
Citizen
Username: Prettyprincess
Post Number: 71
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:24 pm: |
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Not only is he an ugly worm creature on the outside but he is an UGLY DISGUSTING DESPICABLE THING (not even worth calling him a human) ON THE INSIDE. HE should hope and pray never to bump into me in person bc I will "make comments to myself" about what he is truly is.
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PRETTYPRINCESS
Citizen
Username: Prettyprincess
Post Number: 72
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:33 pm: |
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PRETTYPRINCESS
Citizen
Username: Prettyprincess
Post Number: 73
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:49 pm: |
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You mess with them. You're MESSIN' with me!
and.... The horns are what keep my halo up :-)
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Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5754
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:57 pm: |
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Nicole-
Please don't lower yourself to the level of the VP. Up until your 3:24pm post you were doing a great job of standing up for your mom. You're better off leaving the name calling to the rest of us! Continue to hold your head high knowing your family is very much loved and thought highly of by those in town who count. I was going to say those who know your family, but some I have spoken to who don't know anything about your family except what they have read on MOL and heard at the BOT meetings. These are people new to town to boot. But despite this, these people have said they support your mom and family. Thus, these are the people who count! Those, who even though they haven't had the pleasure of meeting your mom supports her! |
PRETTYPRINCESS
Citizen
Username: Prettyprincess
Post Number: 74
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:58 pm: |
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Hmm.... BC can....
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PRETTYPRINCESS
Citizen
Username: Prettyprincess
Post Number: 75
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 4:00 pm: |
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My name is Noelle. |
Erin Cartman
Citizen
Username: Carnac
Post Number: 100
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:09 pm: |
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Sigh..... |
PRETTYPRINCESS
Citizen
Username: Prettyprincess
Post Number: 76
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:44 pm: |
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Spanish Inquisitor
Citizen
Username: Sinq
Post Number: 80
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:46 pm: |
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Did I miss something or did you just invite the village president to kiss three very attractive young ladies? That can't be punishment, can it? |
Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 548
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:01 pm: |
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Nicole ... Noelle ... is there really a difference in JTA's world? |
Pizzaz
Supporter
Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 4033
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 7:11 pm: |
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Princess, let it go. Your expression of disgust has been amply noted.
thanks - love ya!
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MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 4480
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 10:18 pm: |
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For those who didn't stay up for the end of the meeting Monday night, the following exchange between Jennings & Trustee Moore-Abrams took place prior to the SID discussion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajk9-G0n5Vk
WOW! Why does Jennings feel she needs to lecture and be confrontational with everyone? I think Trustee Moore-Abrams asked very reasonable questions and is to be commended. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5760
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 2:43 am: |
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Noelle
Sorry. I didn't have time to look back in the thread earlier. I was just posting a quick note before I left for a concert.
Josh-
Whatever. |
Pdg
Citizen
Username: Pdg
Post Number: 1092
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 9:15 am: |
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Likes the sound of her own voice? (Jennings, that is.)
(If she ever had to read an accurate transcript of one her "answers", she'd be shocked at the dearth of complete sentences and thoughts.) |
Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 551
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 9:27 am: |
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Just a joke JTA ... just a joke. |
PRETTYPRINCESS
Citizen
Username: Prettyprincess
Post Number: 77
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 11:03 am: |
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No prob. JTA Hope you are having a good day. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5786
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 12:27 am: |
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Pdg-
Do you really think:
>>>(If she ever had to read an accurate transcript of one her "answers", she'd be shocked at the dearth of complete sentences and thoughts.)<<<
Doubtful. As someone else has said, it seems as if she feels the need to 'educate' us. (about everything). Does anyone know what she does for a job? Sure hope it isn't working with the public.
Josh-
No problem. I pretty much gave the one word answer because I wasn't sure; especially since I usually like what you have to say.
PP I hope I get to meet you in person someday. |
Deacon Blues
Citizen
Username: Deacon_blues
Post Number: 56
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 9:59 pm: |
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If Bunny's waters down the liquor then I am really a lightweight!!! |
bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 23745
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 10:44 pm: |
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I like how Calabrese says he's sorry, defending his comments and claiming he was talking to himself as he left the dias. Anybody who watched his girly girl reaction when he realized he was still on-camera knows he was not stepping away from anything, precluding stepping his foot out of his own mouth.
I think we should start a topic cataloguing the South Orange trustees being jackasses so that the lies and disrespect shown by those up for election (resesrving opinion on Mark Rosner at present) in May 2007 (President Calabrese, trustees Rosen, Rosner, Taylor). Since the Tau issue may become obsolete (ha-ha!), we need to keep the focus on the need for new leadership in May. Was there a promise that no unrelated e-mail would be sent to those who signed the online petition? If not, I think a message should go out to them (and to those who provided their e-mail addys when they signed paper versions) asking if we can send them updates and links to the specific threads with the http://youtube.com clips.
We need to show everyone what they're REALLY like.
Oh, and Bill Calabrese is definitely reading this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5t0jolCXUg
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MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 4497
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 11:28 pm: |
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bets,
You must have read Dan Shelffo's mind, because this was very similar to his latest blog:
http://www.nj.com/weblogs/offtheshelf/ |
bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 23752
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 - 10:19 am: |
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That is exactly what we need. There are many more that should be posted (including Stacy and Terriann's fight about the secret SID meeting). |
tototoo
Citizen
Username: Tototoo
Post Number: 180
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 - 8:43 pm: |
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The "fight" was actually Terriann asking well reasoned questions and Stacy (the new SM) bullying, with crass, crude, uninformed, nasty, rhetoric that never answered any of the questions. Crasy Stacey (the new SM) is nothing short of a bigoted, loud-mouthed idiot who should be removed from the Board of Trustees for sheer stupidity. IMO
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Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3700
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 12:51 pm: |
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I just rewatched part of this meeting, and was stunned that Ed Matthews still believes he is the personal attorney to the Village President.
When Alan Rosen asked Mr. Matthews to explain what they were voting on (after voting for it, I might add - glad to know there is careful government at work here), Mr. Matthews' response was , he threw up his hands and said "if the Village President wants me to explain it, I'll explain it" as if it were such a huge imposition for him to explain the ordinance.
Am I wrong in assuming Mr. Matthews should be responding to requests by the BOT, and not waiting for the VP to request information? How is this person still associated with our town?
I don't know Mr. Matthews except what I see in the BOT meetings. He may be a great guy, and a wonderful private attorney. I just do not see him working in our best interests. And he repeatedly seems to believe he is the personal attorney for the VP. Is he? |
Soparents
Supporter
Username: Soparents
Post Number: 2559
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 2:11 pm: |
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Rastro, It comes across that way..
Perhaps we can suggest as a cost cutting measure for the town, that our VP starts to pay Mr Matthews fees himself.
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