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Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1928
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 12:23 pm: | 
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Rastro, the Beacon gets some great acts in there. I understand that, SOPAC is no MSG, no Beacon, no NJPAC, and so where does that leave it? The bottom. |
Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1929
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 12:25 pm: |
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Pdg, I do not literally hope that it fails.
Yes, it is too late now. They never should have built it in the first place.
Yes more parking is needed. I will be there laughing as yo-yo ma has to park at the maplewood train station and take the train to get to his performace. |
Buttercup
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Username: Buttercup
Post Number: 73
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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Jeff Daniels? He does stand-up? Eh? I did not know that. Unless this is another Jeff Daniels we are talking about. |
SoOrLady
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Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 3447
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 12:41 pm: |
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Actually, he sings - http://jeffdaniels.com/songs.htm |
Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 4050
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 12:41 pm: |
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Yes, that Jeff Daniels. He not only acts, but also sings. Sorta...
-s. |
Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1930
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 12:42 pm: |
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And at SOPAC he will be playing the spoons. Get ready! |
Diastole
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Username: Diastole
Post Number: 19
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 12:54 pm: |
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Mayor: I think that your comments (about having so little interest or knowledge of most of the performers listed) say a lot more about you and your cultural horizons than about the acts themselves.
I love John Pizzarelli, and can't wait to buy tkts! |
Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1931
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 12:59 pm: |
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I don't think it is just me sratching my head about why these people are playing at SOPAC.
And what are you trying to say? That I have good taste, or that my taste and your taste are different? Because if people who are different from you scare you and you think that they are wrong for being different then you are nothing but a hateful person. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 10220
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 1:08 pm: |
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I say we all dress as The Dude and sit in the front rows. |
Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1932
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 1:12 pm: |
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I'm still laughing about when some guys stole Matt Foley's idea for a game of croquet, and used it as a fundraiser for SOPAC. I'm glad they raised some money, but you'd think they would try for some originality. |
Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1933
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 1:12 pm: |
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Especially when raising the money for an arts center! |
connied76
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Username: Connied76
Post Number: 46
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 1:33 pm: |
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I will second (ot third or fourth) the feeling that I have either not heard of any of these people nor would I be interested in seeing the ones I have heard of. So far, very disappointing and I don't see this line-up as able to generate the type of revenue or enthusiasm SOPAC will need to succeed. |
susan1014
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Username: Susan1014
Post Number: 1716
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 2:00 pm: |
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MHD,
Thanks for catching my bad proofreading...I meant to say SOPAC, not BOT. I thought that the SOPAC board actually did a rather good update (and acknowledged that they won't be self supporting for a few years, but are trying). They could save themselves a lot of trouble if they spoke to the public more frequently.
You are quite right that the BOT did precious little updating on anything of substance. The best that I can say there is that, in the portion of the meeting that I watched (up to about 11 PM), they were more respectful and responsive to the public than usual...nothing for my hypothetical BOT greatest hits video up through the start of remonstrances (I'll watch the rest later!) |
MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 4467
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 2:05 pm: |
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Thanks for clarifying, Susan.
During the remonstrances, you have GOT to watch the 2nd non-apology from Calabrese when Leslie Pogany addressed him directly last night. His complete lack of any remorse is really shameless. |
Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1936
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 2:13 pm: |
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MHD, I agree. You'd think that he would at least let her finish speaking before he made an ••• out of himself. But no, he tried his best to interrupt her so that she couldn't call him out. I can't believe that during her time to speak she actually had to ask him to be quiet to finish her sentence. |
Buttercup
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Username: Buttercup
Post Number: 74
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:41 pm: |
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Dave- Are you mixing up Jeff Daniels and Jeff Bridges in your "Dude" reference? 'Cause I do that all the time (with Bill Pullman, too).
Long Live The Dude!
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I hope Calabrese gets his comeuppance, Pogany style! |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 10223
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 4:33 pm: |
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Damn, I hate when that happens.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3642
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 4:35 pm: |
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I confuse Bill Pullman and Bill Paxton all the time.
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Peter J. Watts
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Username: Peter_watts
Post Number: 54
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 5:46 pm: |
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Yo-Yo Ma? Yawn. But I have to agree with McCheese, it would be funny to see that guy driving around looking for parking. |
susan1014
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Username: Susan1014
Post Number: 1721
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 6:00 pm: |
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To the schedule malcontents...we each have six acts that we would most love to see? So drop SOPAC an email and let them know your list. If anyone loves their whole list, it probably means that the programming is way too narrow-cast!
For me part of the hoped-for joy of having an arts center close to home is that it increases the likelyhood that I'll actually get out the door and stretch my mind by seeing some acts that I don't already know well, as well as an occasional one that is already on my short list. |
Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1950
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 7:53 pm: |
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Susan, I am not looking for 6 acts I like. Just 1 act that I would say isn't too bad in the first few months. Yet, with a site this small and so much competition in the area that is not possible. And that is reflected in the acts that are booked. |
MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 4472
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 8:11 pm: |
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Watching the video of the end of the Meeting last night & just noticed that there was a person who phoned in to the Meeting last night on the EXACT same subject of the original post in this thread. What a coincidence!
Too bad his question was played after 12:30am, when everyone from SOPAC had already gone home.  |
The3ofUs
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Username: The3ofus
Post Number: 60
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 8:21 pm: |
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When I saw Soda's post about the SOPAC schedule thusfar I was floored. I had no idea the place would get shows of this caliber. Pizzarelli is magnificent. Poundstone is hysterical. I think it's VERY exciting for South Orange. |
The3ofUs
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Username: The3ofus
Post Number: 61
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 8:31 pm: |
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Also, for Mayor McCheese...the types of acts being booked for SOPAC are obviously aimed at a sophisticated audience. Infer from that what you will. |
Tea Kettle
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Username: Teacup
Post Number: 8
Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 8:44 pm: |
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I shall infer that Mayor McC is beyond putting on the airs of sophisitication. |
Pizzaz
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Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 4029
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 8:57 pm: |
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Here's a sample of one of his performances....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2TSFtppNSE&search=Pizzarelli |
Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1952
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 11:41 pm: |
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"for Mayor McCheese...the types of acts being booked for SOPAC are obviously aimed at a sophisticated audience."
Are you trying to say that you are sophisticated because you listen to one of these acts? Well, infer what you may by this, but those who claim to be sophisticated in the arts are merely presumptuous pompous persons who in fact have no taste or class.
The real question here is, will anyone actually go to any of these shows? I think not. |
Scully
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Username: Scully
Post Number: 809
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:59 am: |
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Paula Poundstone? I am THERE!!! LOVE her and have yet to catch her live. |
dave23
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Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1917
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 8:22 am: |
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From a Times review of John Pizzarelli:
"A master guitarist, connoisseur of songs, mimic and storyteller, he embodies the concept of fluidity: everything comes out of everything else. His artistic headstream is his guitar; it is his alter ego, his ventriloquist's dummy, his best friend and his spiritual connection rolled into one.
"The high points of any Pizzarelli concert are the moments when he and his instrument fuse in a machine-gun fire of single-note riffs simultaneously picked and vocalized. As the voice and guitar hurtle together in a neck-and-neck race to the finish line, his singing acquires the inflections and accents of the instrument driving it."
And from a Times review of Bill Charlap:
"The pianist Bill Charlap is a more recent addition to those ranks, but he's hardly a newcomer; Thursday marked his 11th Highlights in Jazz appearance. He fits the series almost too perfectly, with a blend of precision, erudition and selfless bonhomie — qualities that have come in handy since last summer, when he assumed artistic directorship of another longstanding series, Jazz in July at the 92nd Street Y.
"The trio — Mr. Charlap, Peter Washington on bass and Kenny Washington (no relation) on drums — worked in a crisp professional mode without succumbing to rigidity or gloss. At times, their unflappable cool was unnerving. Mr. Charlap's arrangement of 'In the Still of the Night' kept a breakneck pace, testing the musicians' graceful athleticism; the result was less like a high-wire act than a figure-skating routine. Only with 'Cool,' from Leonard Bernstein's 'West Side Story,' did everyone let loose; the composition's formal twists and built-in swagger elicited a standout performance."
You don't have to like them, but I'm impressed that SOPAC was able to land such top-notch performers before it even opens.
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SOrising
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Username: Sorising
Post Number: 537
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 8:30 am: |
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If they get George Crumb or equivalent composers, I'll go with friends. |
Nancy - LibraryLady
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Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 3728
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 8:35 am: |
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Not to mention our own hometown favorite chanteuse...
TIME OUT May 8, 2006
The Lyric - Jim Tomlinson featuring Stacey Kent
TIME OUT May 8, 2006
Rating: ****
This Getz-ish tenorist is probably best known as the musical and life partner of graceful US expat singer Stacey Kent; though this is nominally his album, it’s dominated by her voice. Like Diana Krall, Kent takes beautiful standards and gently unfurls their lyrics; and the supremely empathetic understanding she shares with Tomlinson recalls the sublime beauty of Billie Holiday’s recordings with Lester Young. Timeless, artful and utterly gorgeous. -- Kerstan Mackness,
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argon_smythe
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Username: Argon_smythe
Post Number: 867
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 11:44 am: |
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SOPAC Rule #1: If an act is of dubious quality, "nobody" will go to see said act, and the theater will be physically devoid of all people.
SOPAC Rule #2: If Mayor McCheese hasn't heard of an act, it is by definition of dubious quality.
SOPAC Rule #3: Since the facility should never have been built, even acts that Mayor McCheese has heard of will be reduced in stature proportionally, should they ever be booked to appear at SOPAC, to the status of dubious quality.
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Pizzaz
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Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 4032
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 11:47 am: |
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..another selection? sure, sublimely..... 
Stradivarius, Yo-Yo Ma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6I9QWh00W4&search=yo%20yo%20ma
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Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1957
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 12:11 pm: |
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argon, you don't have to agree with me on this board. Your actions will agree with me a year after SOPAC opens and you still haven't gone to see a show there. And you won't be the only one.
People on this thread are bashing me for really saying the truth. Some of the acts that are booked are really not very well known, and some of them are just bad. I'm sorry if you happen to like one of these acts, and are offended by my comments. But if I were to walk around SO and show people this lineup and ask if they had any interest in going to see any of these acts the answer would be no.
Don't hate the messanger, hate the message. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 10236
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZSkTgA2Mlk&search=yoyo%20ma |
Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1958
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 12:41 pm: |
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Dave, the Devil made macs. (And sun dried tomatoes) |
Josh Holtz
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Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 547
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 12:49 pm: |
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Mayor: It just seems as though you have it in for SO and that now includes the booked acts for the PAC. Strange for someone who does not live in town.
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Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1959
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 12:57 pm: |
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Josh, I don't have it in for anyone. What is strange is that I comment on the acts booked and get personally attacked up and down this thread. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 10237
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:00 pm: |
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The acts are selected to appeal to an older audience (eg. older than Mayor McC) with the disposable funds to pay for a few tickets and dinner out. Among that demographic, the acts are well known and they won't have trouble selling tickets. If bigger names were brought in (and I'm not even sure what or who that would mean), there would be an issue with the size of the venue and having to make ticket prices too high to pay the talent. |
Bailey
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Username: Baileymac
Post Number: 384
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:10 pm: |
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Is it possible Mayor just likes to stir things up?
I'm a long time resident of SO, and I'm very much looking forward to going there often. It will be a very intimate comfortable place to see lots of quality entertainment. Just because none of these acts suit your fancy doesn't mean no performers there ever will.
I'm also guessing people from surrounding towns will come to see those performers that interest them.
Mayor, I'm curious, who would YOU like to see there? Anyone? |
Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1960
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:29 pm: |
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Off the top of my head, someone who would play at a place this small? Maybe David Byrne formerly of the talking heads. I have seen him play at the Morristown Community Theater.
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Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 10238
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:36 pm: |
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That would be cool. I bet Jessica could get David Byrne if he's not still doing his South American tour.
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dave23
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Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1923
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:48 pm: |
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db rarely plays such small venues. That was when he toured with the Kronos Quartet, I believe. |
argon_smythe
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Username: Argon_smythe
Post Number: 868
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:52 pm: |
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If I don't go to a show it will be because I can't get a babysitter, not because I never saw or heard of the act before.
And I'm actually probably more likely to go see a performer I've never heard of before.
And what I'm "attacking" is the idea that SOPAC can't act as an incubator for up and coming artists that you've never heard of, but will only succeed if it books acts which are already well known. The people of this community are not on the whole some bunch of dunderheaded sheep who only know how to consume mass quantities of prepackaged entertainment 'content.'
Clearly a mix of both well known and lesser known acts will be ideal, but you're never going to get Styx to headline the SOPAC... oh wait maybe someday that could be possible... but would you want it????
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The3ofUs
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Username: The3ofus
Post Number: 62
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:54 pm: |
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Exactly, dave23. Mayor, try again. It will be fun to hear who else you would like to see there. I live in Maplewood and am thrilled for South Orange to have a venue where high quality acts will perform. Who want acts that fill stadiums or large theaters? Who wants acts that appeal to a younger, mass-oriented crowd? This is South Orange, not Las Vegas. SOPAC will be special, you wait and see. |
argon_smythe
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Username: Argon_smythe
Post Number: 869
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:57 pm: |
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I saw DB at the Supper Club in NYC. I was so close to him I could see the piece of masking tape with "David" written on it stuck to his mic stand, and could hear his unamplified voice as loud as his amplified voice... it was great.
Would he play SOPAC? I think he could, if the place gave him the right vibe. And I think the right vibe would be, it was acting as an incubator for up and coming artists who were a bit out of the mainstream.
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Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 4051
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 2:57 pm: |
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SOPAC Wish list:
Flying Karamozov Brothers
Dar Williams
Bird York
John Gorka
The Amazing Jonathan
Roto-Rooter Goodtime Christmas Band
Cherish The Ladies
Mary Chapin Carpenter
John Hyatt
Kris Delmhorst
Lorraine Feather
Bill Frizell
Anonymous Four
Louis Black
Waylon Flowers & Madame
Leon Redbone
I could go on...
-s. |
Nancy - LibraryLady
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Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 3729
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:16 pm: |
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Please do..... |
dave23
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Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1924
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:27 pm: |
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I saw db at the Knitting Factory. He does play one-off shows (usually as a warm-up for tours) at these tiny venues. Needless to say, it was great.
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Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1964
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:49 pm: |
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"SOPAC will be special, you wait and see."
I think people are very use to waiting for things in SO. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 10239
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:52 pm: |
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Did we get an answer about why the coming attractions aren't updated on the SOPAC web site? |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1965
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:53 pm: |
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I think that at the meeting they said they would ask the SOPAC people about it. |
mrosner
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Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 2870
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:56 pm: |
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Dave: They said they were going to have a new updated website. I am not sure if they said when.
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Cali6buff
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Username: Cali6buff
Post Number: 55
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 10:54 pm: |
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Yesterday, I volunteered to update the SOPAC website for them. I hope they take me up on it.
(I posted a comment like this elsewhere)
Not fer nuttin', but the South Orange website need some serious help. I don't know why we don't have updates on the website with any regularity. I get, and I think a lot of us get all up to date information from the web (not from a monthly leaflet)
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argon_smythe
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Username: Argon_smythe
Post Number: 870
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 10:36 am: |
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That is a great thing Cali6buff. Thank you for volunteering. That's really cool.
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