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Daniel I. Goldberg
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Username: Dig

Post Number: 165
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 6, 2006 - 1:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anybody notice if they are working there today? I saw a front loader moving around this morning, but couldn't tell if it was actually doing anything. Reminded me of what I used to do with my vegetables when my parents told me I couldn't get up from the dinner table until I was done. Just pushing some if this and that around, in the hopes that it would appear that the peas had vanished.
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MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 4373
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, July 6, 2006 - 2:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From today's News Record:
(based on Allan Rosen's long overdue epiphany, I would take that to confirm that he is running for re-election)

Work stalled on Beifus
By Philip Sean Curran
Staff Writer
Village officials last week received assurances that developer Andrew Beifus has the financing in place to build condominiums on South Orange Avenue. Those assurances, coming in a letter from Beifus’ attorney to the village, came amid fresh questions about his ability to complete the project.
Village administrator John O.
Gross, using measured language, said the village had been led to believe Beifus had “ issues with his financing.”
Gross would not elaborate on what “ issues” meant or the source of the information. Yet the village considered it credible enough to have village attorney Edwin R. Matthews correspond officially with Beifus’ attorney.
“ The information we received that led to our inquiry raised an extremely serious concern on our part,” Gross said.
In his letter, attorney John M.
McKenna wrote the mortgage commitment to the project “ remains in place. It has not been amended, altered or withdrawn.” Even with the letter in hand, village officials said they remain skeptical.
“ Mr. Beifus has to provide the village with more than assurances,” Gross said, noting the village would seek to confirm that Beifus has the financing. He declined to elaborate.
Beifus did not return a phone call seeking comment.
For some village officials, their patience with Beifus has run out.
Trustee Allan Rosen said Beifus “ has no credibility with me. I don’t trust anything he says.”
The Beifus project is a mixed use of retail and residential on approximately 1.5 acres of land. Work on the project has stopped. Beifus, who operates Beifus Motors on Valley Street, was chosen as the developer of the site in 2001, according to the village Web site. But three years later, the village took away his developer designation.
In April 2005, trustees approved a developers agreement with him to ensure “ the project would be under construction by mid- year,” according to the village Web site.
The village also worked out a deal for Beifus to pay the village $ 425,000 a year rather than pay property taxes.
A payment in lieu of taxes is a common agreement between developers and municipal governments. Rosen said that unless work gets moving within the next month, he would suggest at the July 24 Board of Trustees meeting to have the village take the property through eminent domain.
“ He’s not lived up to what he’s promised,” Rosen said, “ and he’s had plenty of time to do it.”
To Trustee Mark Rosner, such talk is long overdue. “ At this point, we should condemn it and find a developer who’s willing to work with us,” Rosner said.

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Josh Holtz
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Post Number: 516
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 6, 2006 - 3:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John M. McKenna? What happened to Mr. Williams, Beifus' attorney, who spoke so slickly in front of both the Planning Board and the BOT.
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joel dranove
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Post Number: 652
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 6, 2006 - 5:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, condemnation?
Or, friend of Bill gets tax reduction, waits for intolerable parking situation, ans sells to town for exhorbitant price.
Why does property owner who razes his property for improvement get a tax reduction until new structure is in place?
What is intent of assessment?
jd
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joel dranove
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Post Number: 653
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 6, 2006 - 5:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

late proofreading leads me to confess: "ans" should be -and-.
Otherwise, who will distance himself/herself from Bill on Monday night?
Sayid?
jd
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joel dranove
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Post Number: 654
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Posted on Thursday, July 6, 2006 - 5:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

pdf the mortgage commitment to the public, here on rivercityonline.com, please.
jd
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joel dranove
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Post Number: 655
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 6, 2006 - 5:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

pdf the mortgage commitment to the public, please.
jd
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Dave
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Post Number: 10051
Registered: 4-1997


Posted on Thursday, July 6, 2006 - 5:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Quote:

Village administrator John O.
Gross, using measured language, said the village had been led to believe Beifus had “ issues with his financing.”
Gross would not elaborate on what “ issues” meant or the source of the information. Yet the village considered it credible enough to have village attorney Edwin R. Matthews correspond officially with Beifus’ attorney.




Philip Sean Curran shoots..... and scores.

GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 4374
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, July 6, 2006 - 6:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From Today's Star Ledger:
http://www.nj.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1152160286250940.xml?starledger? nmotm&coll=1

East Hanover mayor target of recall campaign
Critics say Agnellino fosters overdevelopment


When East Hanover residents arrived at Town Hall recently, two cars in the parking lot greeted them with large signs.

"No Billy, No Bully in 2006" stated one sign, perched in a gold Ford Escort. Another, in the bed of a Dodge Dakota pickup, showed a picture of Mayor William Agnellino wearing a crown and a purple robe, and said in big lettering, "Well, all hail the undisputed king of overdevelopment."

[In South Orange, we hail the undisputed king of NONdevelopment]

The cars' owners sat at a picnic table near the building's entrance, greeting residents and holding petitions to recall Agnellino.

Herman Marmon and Don Leger have collected just shy of 1,000 signatures, they said. They need 1,991 signatures -- 25 percent of the township's registered voters -- by August to place the issue on the ballot.

Their reason for the recall: "He's insolent, he's rude, he's demeaning, he's argumentative," Marmon said.



Deja vu!
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Elaine Harris
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Post Number: 204
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 6, 2006 - 7:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"The village took away his developer designation?" Is there any evidence of this? It is my understanding that this is not possible. Once given, developer status is like a property right that can not be taken away, especially so casually.

I believe from what I read above, that Mr. McKenna is the attorney for the mortgage lender, not the attorney for Mr. Beifus. I could be wrong, but that is how I read it.

What page was this on in the NR?
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Dan Shelffo
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Post Number: 187
Registered: 6-2001


Posted on Thursday, July 6, 2006 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, as of this moment, Mr. Beifus is on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION!

PS Someone should notify the authorities that the Food King has been looted.

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Howard Levison
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Post Number: 633
Registered: 1-2004


Posted on Friday, July 7, 2006 - 7:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Elaine, see the following:

#255-04 – Resolution Rescinding Resolution #86-02 Designating Jacqueline and Andrew Beifus as the Redevelopers of Block 1904, Lots 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 in the Central Business District Redevelopment Area.

Moved by Trustee Rosen, seconded by Trustee Theroux and carried by the Board. The Village Clerk announced the resolution passed.
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Elaine Harris
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Post Number: 207
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, July 7, 2006 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Howard, my point is, was that Resolution "effective"? I mean, what if they passed a resolution to take away your house. Just because it is a resolution does not mean it is enforceable. That may have been window dressing to appease the masses. From what I understand, that resolution would not have been enforceable had they tried to enforce it.
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Howard Levison
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Post Number: 634
Registered: 1-2004


Posted on Friday, July 7, 2006 - 2:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have a Village Counsel who prepared the Resolution and should be aware of the law. I would assume that the members of the Board rely on his knowledge and advise.
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joel dranove
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Post Number: 662
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Friday, July 7, 2006 - 2:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unless they state why, it seems like a breach of a contract.
The reasons to rescind can and should be stated.
Perhaps the resolution has some "whereas" clauses attached to it.
Perhaps not.
jd
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Spitz
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Post Number: 1825
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, July 7, 2006 - 2:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The rescinding of Beifus' redeveloper status received front page treatment in the News Record. Allan Rosen even made a point of it on MOL when he was still posting. I asked what the consequences were, since as far as I could see, it hadn't changed anything. I never received an answer. As a matter of fact, Beifus is referred to as the "developer" in the development agreement.

Futhermore, Beifus was granted a PILOT. In order to receive a tax abatement in a redevelopment zone, the developer must be designated a "reveloper." If in fact Beifus was stripped of his redeveloper status per the resolution, when was he reinstated as a "redeveloper?"

The whole thing was a sham just like the entire deal, and our elected officials were the facilitators. How much time and money have we, as residents and taxpayers of the Village, lost because of this?
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joel dranove
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Post Number: 665
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Friday, July 7, 2006 - 3:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ask the board pres. on Monday night, at the meeting, and on camera.


jd
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Spitz
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Post Number: 1826
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Posted on Friday, July 7, 2006 - 3:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm out of town. Maybe someone can ask when Beifus was reinstated as a redeveloper. Either the resolution rescinding his status as a redeveloper was not valid, as Elaine suggests, or if it was, the PILOT agreement is not valid if there was no reinstatement. I'm pretty sure there was no independent resolution, and it's not done via incorporation in the developer's agreement.
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Two Senses
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Post Number: 449
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 9, 2006 - 9:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

July 9, 2007 -- 14 months since Beifus-Shovel-in-the-Dirt Day (and only 10 months to Clean Sweep of Village Hall Day).
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MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 4389
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 8:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to Calabrese last night, Beifus's attorney was supposed to send a letter to Village Hall yesterday with details of his plans. Suprisingly, no letter ever arrived.

The BOT then claimed that if no substantial progress is made within the next 2 weeks, they would move to condemn.

Ironically, by the time condemnation would actually proceed, SOPAC may be open & the value of his property will have increased.

Maybe the BOT should have listened to residents that have been calling for condemnation for the past few years. If they actually move forward with condemnation NOW, it will actually cost US millions of dollars more and Beifus gets to pocket millions more. Brilliant!

Hmmm....can someone remind me again when Beifus knocked down his building to give the appearance of progress being made?
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Howard Levison
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Post Number: 637
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Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would assume if they condemned his property today it would be on the basis of his current assessment and tax payments - land only!
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Mike Matterly
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Username: Ittakesavillage

Post Number: 66
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Howard - correct, but rest assured he would use all the "coming soons" to try and leverage a better deal on the land value.

It is clearly time to bring in some responsible blood to the BOT.

I mentioned this prior to the last election and it is time to bring it up once again. A true leader (in business) understands what he (or she) does not know and then surrounds him (or her)self with experts.

We clearly have a problem in SO. My father was a fantastic Dr. I trusted him with medical questions, however I would never let him touch my finances (opinions "yes" - but decisions "no"). I hope my point is clear.

We (citizens of SO) need to come together in the proper fashion to support 1, 2 or even 3 candidates for the BOT so that we ensure that we are not stuck with the same old situation the week following the election. The town collectively shot itself in the foot the last go around, as we hand too many candidates (not far off from the issues) working hard to garner the same votes.

A ton of young (34 - 45) year olds who are working towards great careers in the corporate world, have children in the schools and pay ridiculous taxes really do care a great deal about SO, however often find it difficult to comprehend why poor business decisions are made so often here in SO. Many of us would be dismissed from our positions if we ran our business units in this manner.

Let me get off my soapbox as I am beginning to get a little dizzy from this nonsense!

MM
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kevin
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Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 9:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MHD asked: "Hmmm....can someone remind me again when Beifus knocked down his building to give the appearance of progress being made?"

How about April of 2003?

beifus
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bets
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Post Number: 23529
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Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And exactly 1 day before a municipal election. Progress!!!
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Soparents
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Post Number: 1971
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Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

kevin, that's not a question that really TAXES the brain, is it?

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MHD
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Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By the way...since it has already been determined that there is contaminated WATER on the Beifus site (which was a big reason the basement had to be eliminated), wouldn't that suggest that the current mountain of soil on the property is also contaminated?

beifus





Is anybody concerned that this is immediately next to our pool?
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Soparents
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Post Number: 1974
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Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't tell me that, my kiddies are in that pool twice a week, plus perpetually playing in the playground and Cameron field. If that soil is contaminated at the very least it should be tarped, or better still it should have been taken away..

MHD, now you have me concerned. That "pile" has been there since about April - if there is a contaminant with all the rain/storms/wind we have had, it's pulled it into the air/gone into the ground.

Forget concerned. I'm worried sick..

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MHD
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Post Number: 4427
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Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Instead of being 14 months since Beifus-Shovel-in-the-dirt-day, we are now only 7 days until Beifus-Condemnation-Day, according to what we were told at the last BOT Meeting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCM9BdEw3UQ

Considering the contamination on the site, I am not sure if this is good or bad news?
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joel dranove
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Post Number: 723
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Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 4:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We can hire a soil engineer, and get our own opinion.
We can also directly ask Drewski for his engineer's opinion, for if he has been stringing us along, we should sue him, and get the fed government and state government to mitigate the pollution.
They would sue Beifus to recover the costs, after giving him the chance to propose a remediation plan out of his pocket, and clean it up himself.
Basic CERCLA.
jd
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SOrising
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Post Number: 507
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Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let us know when, Joel.
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MHD
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Post Number: 4432
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 1:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For anyone wondering - still ZERO activity at the Beifus site, which now makes us 5 days until Beifus-Condemnation-Day.
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Soparents
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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 1:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MHD - you missed the activity...

The grass is growing.

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Rastro
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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 2:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MHD, I think it's 5 days until the BOT reconsiders what to do about Beifus. I don't think they have explicitly said that they will definitely condemn if he doesn't get to work by Monday.
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MHD
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Post Number: 4435
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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 2:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ya think?

I'd be willing to bet that the BOT lays down another bogus deadline (if Beifus doesn't at least mow the grass on the property by the time the BOT returns from Summer hiatus in September than....) and threatens another bogus consequence (...we'll put him on triple secret probation and we really really really mean it this time)
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notehead
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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 3:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can we please, please just elect a new BOT now?!
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MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 4451
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 9:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I heard the "Mount Beifus" is being hauled away by truck this morning.

In typical fashion, Beifus performs some action right before a deadline to make it appear like something is happening.

However, he could have saved himself some trouble by looking at the agenda for the next BOT Meeting and seen that this is not even a topic for discussion and he has until September when the BOT returns for his next game of "move the dirt".
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joel dranove
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Post Number: 750
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 9:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If they haul away enough, we can have Lake Beifus.
Boating, lazing away the afternoon.
Ahhh.
jd
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Josh Holtz
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joel: Remember - the Lake may or may not have contaminated water. My opinion is stay out of the water.
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joel dranove
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Post Number: 753
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We are in it up to our necks already.
jd
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Soparents
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Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 5:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How much was hauled away? I went passed there about 10 times today and could see a bulldozer on top of mount Beifus, but on each occasion the gates were shut. Was I just missing the carting soil away ceremony or did the gates never open?

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