| Author | Message | ||
     Grspring Citizen Username: Grspring Post Number: 99 Registered: 6-2004 |
Based on how the town conducts business this is probably a rhetorical question. Why would they put a notice on your door the evening prior to paving the street you live on? How about two days or three days? I only discovered the notice when taking out the garbage this morning (which I now have to put in the garage till Friday). I took a mental health day because I have friends visiting from California today, the cable guy is coming as is UPS. Residents are scrambling to move their cars as the trucks roll in. Good planning! | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 599 Registered: 2-2006 |
Try to make sure all your friends are registered to vote and vote in the next town elections, Grspring, May 7, 2007. You might even talk to your neighbors about electing BOT members who ensure better planning and greater consideration of South Orange residents. | ||
| Guitar Dad Citizen Username: Guitardad Post Number: 23 Registered: 3-2006  |
The thread I started about an "instant tow-away zone" turned out to be about this very thing. Apparently, our notice (the night or two before) must have blown away. As it turns out though, a week went by and nothing much happened. The signs came down and we moved our cars back. This morning though, they looked serious at about 6:30 am with the air blowers cleaning the street, and they coned-off the whole street. So I think it's really coming today. I moved our car. I do wish we could know how long the whole process would take. | ||
| mrosner Citizen Username: Mrosner Post Number: 2897 Registered: 4-2002 |
GrSpring: The contractor puts out the notices and they are supposed to do so a couple of days in advance. My preference would be for them to do so the friday of the week before they plan to pave. It is part of their contract to give advance notice to residents. | ||
| Walker Citizen Username: Fester Post Number: 268 Registered: 4-2003  |
Mark; If it is in the contract then they have been violating the terms of the contract since they started the current micro-resurfacing. They have never provided more than 12 hours notice to residents in the area between Ridgewood, Mountain station and floods hill in some cases the notice was put on the door the morning the work was supposed to be done. Can somthing be done? | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave  Post Number: 10361 Registered: 4-1997  |
We got our notice the night before. If I didn't see the truck stop and the guy run up and put it on the door, I wouldn't have known. Also, they paved over a drain on the corner of Meadowbrook Lane and Meadowbrook Place. I think DPW should do an inspection of their work there and in other flood-prone areas just in case. Other than that, the streets look nice. | ||
| mrosner Citizen Username: Mrosner Post Number: 2898 Registered: 4-2002 |
Walker: Theoretically something can be done. However, the reality is the contractors via the low-bidding process seem to control the process instead of the other way around. While it seems easy to say, well you violated the contract therefore we are going to penalize you. It won't hold up in court and the town will be ordered to pay them for completion of the job. In order to help keep the bids as low as possible, the window for repaving jobs is usually longer than I would like. You see when toll roads are repaved they seem to get done in a minimum number of days whereas municipal jobs (almost anywhere in the state ) seem to takes months. Also, theoretically, the town could put out the notices, but the contractors like to coordinate jobs and the equipment needed. Of course, to me and most others, it does not seem that difficult to get a notice out with a timeline of the job from start to finish. At least people would have a ballpark and it is something we should strive to achieve. | ||
| Stuart0628 Citizen Username: Stuart0628 Post Number: 320 Registered: 2-2003 |
Mark, can't the Village (specifically the Village Attorney) put stronger wording in the RFPs we send out to prospective contractors so that the penalties WILL stand up in court? (OK, Ed Matthews fans, it's your turn...  ) | ||
| Walker Citizen Username: Fester Post Number: 269 Registered: 4-2003 |
Mark: Why bother having a contract at all it seams a little redundant if the contract they sign is not enforceable. I agree with Stuart0628 lets make sure the language in all village contracts is 100% enforceable. I would however not rely on ed to do this! | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 1701 Registered: 7-2005  |
I definitely did not see a sign on the front door when I returned to the house last night. (around midnight) | ||
| Grspring Citizen Username: Grspring Post Number: 100 Registered: 6-2004 |
Mark I called Dosch King Co (973 887-0145), and spoke to someone whose name was King. He told me they have always distributed notices the nignt prior to paving. I said that was unfair to the home owners. I explained about staying home for the cable guy and a UPS delivery. He told me that I should plan better. Needless to say the conversation went downhill from there. | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 23785 Registered: 6-2001  |
I say make them adhere to the contract that they bid on and won. What is so difficult about that? | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 601 Registered: 2-2006 |
The BOT hires and fires the village attorney. Get a new board if you want contracts that serve the interest of South Orange residents and are enforceable and if you want contractors in town who won't be paid from the public treasury for substandard work. Talk to your neighbors. Make sure they are registered and vote next spring. | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 10364 Registered: 4-1997 |
I think most people were inconvenienced for a day, two at most. They did our street in 105 degree weather. I'm not going to complain about contractors who at least do their job. It's the contractors that get paid $85,000 for doing NOTHING that bother me, like the shell corporation, Targeted Solutions, Inc., which was incorporated by a woman who is an employee for a private investigation firm, to do "fundraising" for SOPAC and which was subsequently closed by the state for alleged tax delinquency or not filing after the "job" was done. | ||
| SO Ref Citizen Username: So_refugee Post Number: 2062 Registered: 2-2005  |
Does the Village ever try to get folks with whom they do business stick to the terms of signed agreements? Rhetorical question... | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 619 Registered: 2-2006 |
For any residents with older homes with subterranean leader and other drains that feed into the street (and grandfathered in to allow it), you may want to warn the road paving crews that they cannot cover up the drainage outlets. On our street, numerous houses drain water into the street. When a crew came today, after a resident explained this to them and indicated that an environmental attorney had already been in touch with the village attorney about drainage problems on the block, the crew stopped working. Past repavements have nearly occluded drain openings entirely on several streets in the area. | ||
| Tuxedo Citizen Username: Tuxedo Post Number: 100 Registered: 7-2004 |
Microsurfacing is not very durable. The pot holes you see today will be covered up with a thin layer of black gunk. It'll last for about a month then with the first freeze, the holes pop open again. Oy! | ||
| wnb Citizen Username: Wnb Post Number: 480 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hey we just got our doorknob hanger yesterday for street paving starting today too! AND I've got the Rutgers guys here in the middle of a paint job. I love the "should have planned better" comment. Isn't that the whole point of asking to being given a little advanced notice! | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 621 Registered: 2-2006 |
We never even got a notice about street paving. Only signs stapled to trees saying the PD wouldn't allow you to park in the street. That's really advanced notice: you never get the notice at all. | ||
| JoRo Citizen Username: Autojoe51 Post Number: 134 Registered: 10-2005 |
Ridiculous and sadly predictable. And they only finished half the street. A literally half-baked plan. | ||
| David M. Ascher Citizen Username: Dascher Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2004 |
Has anybody noticed that the so-called micro-surfacing is now micro-disappearing? It appears that as cars brake going downhill, the surface just peels right off even easier than a label on a peach. | ||
| MasselMom Citizen Username: Teacher66 Post Number: 26 Registered: 3-2006 |
David: Yeah that is what is also happening on our street. But we were also lucky enough that about 2 weeks after they did the paving job. Verizon came and dug a big hole in our street. Talk about communication. |
